Navy/MD
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Okay, I know I said I was laying off, but I had to put this one in
Ohio State -13.5 -125
I really thought this line would be much, much higher. Maryland simply gets killed by the better teams. Sure, you can make an argument that Ohio State is looking ahead, but the Michigan game is meaningless if they lose this one. Haskins is a MD kid and a recruit they went all in on and were pissed when he went to Ohio State. Obviously the right choice, but he will be fired up for this one. I really see no way MD keeps this close. Hill is out for the rest of the season, so Pigrome starts. If he gets hurt the only QB they really have left is the Freshman Tyler DeSue who is not ready for this type of game. Maryland has not been able to run against good teams all year and they are not good at throwing the ball at all. Hill was considered the better passer of the two and he has had issues all year. Plus, their play calling is simply terrible as Canada is obsesses with passing the ball. With a total of 58.5 are the lines makers really expecting Maryland to score over 21 points? They did not do this against Mich, Temple, Iowa or Michigan St. and I do not see them doing it this weekend. The look ahead is the only possible reason for this is not a very, very big play as maybe the back door is open, but I am not counting on it. I only see this line climbing.
Ohio State -13.5 -125
I really thought this line would be much, much higher. Maryland simply gets killed by the better teams. Sure, you can make an argument that Ohio State is looking ahead, but the Michigan game is meaningless if they lose this one. Haskins is a MD kid and a recruit they went all in on and were pissed when he went to Ohio State. Obviously the right choice, but he will be fired up for this one. I really see no way MD keeps this close. Hill is out for the rest of the season, so Pigrome starts. If he gets hurt the only QB they really have left is the Freshman Tyler DeSue who is not ready for this type of game. Maryland has not been able to run against good teams all year and they are not good at throwing the ball at all. Hill was considered the better passer of the two and he has had issues all year. Plus, their play calling is simply terrible as Canada is obsesses with passing the ball. With a total of 58.5 are the lines makers really expecting Maryland to score over 21 points? They did not do this against Mich, Temple, Iowa or Michigan St. and I do not see them doing it this weekend. The look ahead is the only possible reason for this is not a very, very big play as maybe the back door is open, but I am not counting on it. I only see this line climbing.
So Maryland finally decides to do what I have been saying they should do all year long: RUN THE DAMN BALL!
Of course, they do it when I bet against them. Been saying McFarland is a special player all year and they are finally giving him the ball. He is a stud.
I was wrong about Ohio State showing for this one and it reflects on Meyer's ability to get his team ready. Lots of time left, but this team was not prepared for this one.
Of course, they do it when I bet against them. Been saying McFarland is a special player all year and they are finally giving him the ball. He is a stud.
I was wrong about Ohio State showing for this one and it reflects on Meyer's ability to get his team ready. Lots of time left, but this team was not prepared for this one.
Some 3-team teasers for the hell of it today
Navy +16
Penn St -2.5
Notre Dame -1
Wisconsin -.5
La Tech Pk-1
Notre Dame -1
Ohio State +14.5
Florida State +18
UCLA +17
Navy +16
Penn St -2.5
Notre Dame -1
Wisconsin -.5
La Tech Pk-1
Notre Dame -1
Ohio State +14.5
Florida State +18
UCLA +17
Have to admit that I have not seen Wisconsin play this year. If I did I would have never bet any money on them as their QB is one of the biggest stiffs I have seen in a while. He is absolutely terrible. Do not know how this team won 7 games this year with this offense. Just proves how bad that division of the Big Ten really is.
- Nov 30, 2003
- 3,740
- 248
- 63
I don?t understand how they are losing at home with that massive offensive line! I would have just ran the ball like the old Alvarez days.
They were simply horrible today. Great example of a coach not having his team ready to play. Seeing a lot of that today (La Tech and Pitt didn't show at all either).
Some initial leans (nothing played) for next weekend
Washington -4.5 - Utah just does not have enough offense
Memphis +5 - Look for UCF to struggle some offensively
Texas +7.5 - Oklahoma defense is garbage
Bama Ov 64.5 - lean to GA over 14, but there should be points in this one
Pitt +25.5 - May be my favorite play. Pitt did not show at all against Miami, but they will next week
More later.
Washington -4.5 - Utah just does not have enough offense
Memphis +5 - Look for UCF to struggle some offensively
Texas +7.5 - Oklahoma defense is garbage
Bama Ov 64.5 - lean to GA over 14, but there should be points in this one
Pitt +25.5 - May be my favorite play. Pitt did not show at all against Miami, but they will next week
More later.
First play in:
Oklahoma Ov 77 -115
Sure this is a square play, but solely based on how Oklahoma plays it looks like a solid play to me. Anyway you look at it Oklahoma's defense is very, very bad and their offense is very, very good. Lincoln knows his defense sucks but he doesn't really care. He knows he can outscore anyone and that is how they will play this game. Texas will have no choice but to play along as I do not think they will be able to stop the speed of Oklahoma's offense. See a similar type game to the first one and think this could be over the total by the end of the 3rd period.
Oklahoma Ov 77 -115
Sure this is a square play, but solely based on how Oklahoma plays it looks like a solid play to me. Anyway you look at it Oklahoma's defense is very, very bad and their offense is very, very good. Lincoln knows his defense sucks but he doesn't really care. He knows he can outscore anyone and that is how they will play this game. Texas will have no choice but to play along as I do not think they will be able to stop the speed of Oklahoma's offense. See a similar type game to the first one and think this could be over the total by the end of the 3rd period.
Anyone else finding it a little difficult to fully cap Saturday's games based on the timing of the games? I really think it is a mess, and in the end, could be a disservice to the whole process. I get that is all about the money, but do you really think you get the same effort from Ohio State if Oklahoma blows out Texas or if Georgia beats Alabama? I don't, which leaves the Ohio State game out of the mix for now.
I do not think much of the Big 12 at all and do not think Oklahoma belongs in no matter what, but if they beat Texas good, I do not see how any result in the Ohio State games makes a difference. I know it was the first game of the year, but I can not get Texas losing to MD out of my mind. I think they have been overrated all year long and really are not that good. I just have a hard time betting Oklahoma with that defense.
I do not think much of the Big 12 at all and do not think Oklahoma belongs in no matter what, but if they beat Texas good, I do not see how any result in the Ohio State games makes a difference. I know it was the first game of the year, but I can not get Texas losing to MD out of my mind. I think they have been overrated all year long and really are not that good. I just have a hard time betting Oklahoma with that defense.
The only other play I am making this weekend
Bama Ov 63.5 -115
I am staying away from sides this weekend. I think Georgia will give Bama a game and will put some points on the Board. I think we see a 41-35 type game.
Will likely parlay the two over plays also.
Bama Ov 63.5 -115
I am staying away from sides this weekend. I think Georgia will give Bama a game and will put some points on the Board. I think we see a 41-35 type game.
Will likely parlay the two over plays also.
I lied, making one more play:
Oklahoma TT Ov 43
I am tempted to play both team total overs, but I already have the over for the game. They are over this number in 8 straight games and only twice, early in the season, did they not go over this number. I do not see Texas slowing them down. May be another square play, but I think there poor defense forces them to score 50 in this one to win.
Oklahoma TT Ov 43
I am tempted to play both team total overs, but I already have the over for the game. They are over this number in 8 straight games and only twice, early in the season, did they not go over this number. I do not see Texas slowing them down. May be another square play, but I think there poor defense forces them to score 50 in this one to win.
I really hope Alabama wins and Oklahoma gets in as the 4 seed, because I will be unloading on Alabama in that game. Oklahoma is way overrated in my opinion and I think Alabama will absolutely destroy them. They did not look very good at all today against an average Texas team. Go BAMA!
I think Urban Myer stepping down will have this Ohio State team fired up, plus Washington is not very good:
Ohio State -5 -120
I hate laying a lot of money this early but I see this line going no where but up, so I am in for a big play.
I have said numerous times that I will be all over Alabama against Oklahoma, and I will be, but I think the line may come down some so I will wait. Alabama should some vulnerability against GA, but I certainly think Georgia is better than Oklahoma. They would be favored over them if they were matched in a play-in game. I just do not think the Big 12 is very good. Murray did not really look very good passing the ball against Texas and I think Bama will focus on pressuring him all game long. The only way I see Oklahoma staying in this game is if Murray runs for well over a 100 yards and Bama turns the ball over. If Tua is healthy, he will throw all over them. Huge coaching advantage here for Bama in my opinion and the break really favors them. 14 is a lot of points especially against a team like Oklahoma that can score but I will take defense over offense every day of the week. I do not care how much time they have off, Oklahoma's defense is not getting any better.
I think I may like Clemson even more. I honestly do not believe Notre Dame is one of the 4 best teams in the country. All the discussion was over GA, OK and OSU, but I think more attention should have been paid to the Irish. Yeah, I know they are undefeated but they had a weak schedule after the Michigan game and probably would not have even been in the conversation with 1 loss. I would take Ohio State and Georgia over the Irish all day long as they are both better teams. Hell, I think UCF would give the Irish all they can handle. They are the worst team in the final 4 and I think Clemson overpowers them all game long. I am watching that line and love seeing Notre Dame money coming in. I will pounce when I can buy this down under 10 at a good price.
As a side note, I hate the long layoff for the playoff and then the short layoff for the final game. It is a definite flaw in the system in my opinion and makes the argument for a larger playoff even stronger. Teams have way to long to game plan and get healthy for the first game. I know each team gets the same advantage but it definitely favors some teams over others. Would Bama be 14 if the game was next week? Highly doubtful with Tua hurt. Just something I do not like. Would love to see them slowly expand the playoff.
Ohio State -5 -120
I hate laying a lot of money this early but I see this line going no where but up, so I am in for a big play.
I have said numerous times that I will be all over Alabama against Oklahoma, and I will be, but I think the line may come down some so I will wait. Alabama should some vulnerability against GA, but I certainly think Georgia is better than Oklahoma. They would be favored over them if they were matched in a play-in game. I just do not think the Big 12 is very good. Murray did not really look very good passing the ball against Texas and I think Bama will focus on pressuring him all game long. The only way I see Oklahoma staying in this game is if Murray runs for well over a 100 yards and Bama turns the ball over. If Tua is healthy, he will throw all over them. Huge coaching advantage here for Bama in my opinion and the break really favors them. 14 is a lot of points especially against a team like Oklahoma that can score but I will take defense over offense every day of the week. I do not care how much time they have off, Oklahoma's defense is not getting any better.
I think I may like Clemson even more. I honestly do not believe Notre Dame is one of the 4 best teams in the country. All the discussion was over GA, OK and OSU, but I think more attention should have been paid to the Irish. Yeah, I know they are undefeated but they had a weak schedule after the Michigan game and probably would not have even been in the conversation with 1 loss. I would take Ohio State and Georgia over the Irish all day long as they are both better teams. Hell, I think UCF would give the Irish all they can handle. They are the worst team in the final 4 and I think Clemson overpowers them all game long. I am watching that line and love seeing Notre Dame money coming in. I will pounce when I can buy this down under 10 at a good price.
As a side note, I hate the long layoff for the playoff and then the short layoff for the final game. It is a definite flaw in the system in my opinion and makes the argument for a larger playoff even stronger. Teams have way to long to game plan and get healthy for the first game. I know each team gets the same advantage but it definitely favors some teams over others. Would Bama be 14 if the game was next week? Highly doubtful with Tua hurt. Just something I do not like. Would love to see them slowly expand the playoff.
I put these two in today
Navy +7.5 -125
Navy +14
KC+.5
I will have more commentary and reasoning on this later, but I think the Navy number will move off of 7 so I wanted to get the 7.5 at a decent price now as well as 14 in the tease.
Navy +7.5 -125
Navy +14
KC+.5
I will have more commentary and reasoning on this later, but I think the Navy number will move off of 7 so I wanted to get the 7.5 at a decent price now as well as 14 in the tease.
Army/Navy
One of my favorite games of the year. Throw back football between players who simply love to play the game. I tend to keep the capping relatively simple in this game since there is no question as to motivation on both sides. By record and the eye test Army looks like the much better team. They have had a great year for sure and took Oklahoma to OT!! Navy on the other hand has looked as slow as I have seen in years and lacked the offensive execution we have become accustomed to. However, Navy plays a much tougher schedule than Army. Navy would be a bowl team if they played Army's schedule. Navy only has 3 wins, but their Memphis win is better than any win Army has on their schedule. Army has 10 wins in this series since 1990 and only 2 have been by more than 7 points ( 10 and 9 ).
The real difference between the two teams is on defense. Army's defense has been very strong all year, but for me, you have to also consider the schedules here. In conference, Navy faces teams that love to throw and they get beat deep repeatedly. Yes, Army has played a couple offensive powers, but Navy has to play them almost on a weekly basis. Navy's biggest problem was on the offensive side of the ball this year. QB situation definitely did not work out the way they planned. They were very predictable most of the year and refused to change how they play. Near the end of the season they started throwing the ball more and it worked. I think Navy's conference teams are getting used to playing them especially since they never really change the way they play on offense or defense, which makes it tougher for them to be successful in conference play.
It is obviously a big game for both teams, but this is Navy's season after a really bad year (worst record since 2 win season in 2002 which was Paul Johnson's first year). I think these teams are more evenly matched than most think and I think we will see a classic close battle between the two. As such I will take the points in this one.
One of my favorite games of the year. Throw back football between players who simply love to play the game. I tend to keep the capping relatively simple in this game since there is no question as to motivation on both sides. By record and the eye test Army looks like the much better team. They have had a great year for sure and took Oklahoma to OT!! Navy on the other hand has looked as slow as I have seen in years and lacked the offensive execution we have become accustomed to. However, Navy plays a much tougher schedule than Army. Navy would be a bowl team if they played Army's schedule. Navy only has 3 wins, but their Memphis win is better than any win Army has on their schedule. Army has 10 wins in this series since 1990 and only 2 have been by more than 7 points ( 10 and 9 ).
The real difference between the two teams is on defense. Army's defense has been very strong all year, but for me, you have to also consider the schedules here. In conference, Navy faces teams that love to throw and they get beat deep repeatedly. Yes, Army has played a couple offensive powers, but Navy has to play them almost on a weekly basis. Navy's biggest problem was on the offensive side of the ball this year. QB situation definitely did not work out the way they planned. They were very predictable most of the year and refused to change how they play. Near the end of the season they started throwing the ball more and it worked. I think Navy's conference teams are getting used to playing them especially since they never really change the way they play on offense or defense, which makes it tougher for them to be successful in conference play.
It is obviously a big game for both teams, but this is Navy's season after a really bad year (worst record since 2 win season in 2002 which was Paul Johnson's first year). I think these teams are more evenly matched than most think and I think we will see a classic close battle between the two. As such I will take the points in this one.
I am adding a couple small total plays:
Ov 39 -120
Navy TT Ov 16
Just too much love for the Under. I know all the trends, but I expect a couple big plays in this one. It is cold, but sunny, so perfect football weather right now. Just a gut feeling that we see some points finally in this one and a total under 40 is just too enticing for me.
Ov 39 -120
Navy TT Ov 16
Just too much love for the Under. I know all the trends, but I expect a couple big plays in this one. It is cold, but sunny, so perfect football weather right now. Just a gut feeling that we see some points finally in this one and a total under 40 is just too enticing for me.
Navy sucks, I had some hopes, but they are terrible on offense as they have been all year. Have to play Army in the second half given the tease exposure I have on Navy:
Army -3.5
Army -3.5
