New Top 10

[TouchdownJesus]

Or lets just take the Top 16 teams in the country....
Except that isn't fair at all.

Notre Dame starts out #3 in the nation. They could possibly lose 3 games and still be 15th at season's end.
Duke starts out unranked (prob. ranked 100th) and loses one game. They are now ranked 18th. If they do happen to be ranked 16th, they get a bad seed just b/c of where they started.

You need a system in place that puts everyone on a level playing field from Day One of the season.

 

[TouchdownJesus]

Although, I like the idea of making even less Div 1 teams. I want to get it down to 96 teams, but wouldn't mind seeing it go even less.

There is a part of me that loves the polls. That loves the jockeying for position and the fact that the reg. season means so much.

But it just means too much. It isn't fair at all and I've been sick of it for years and years.

 

[Scott4USC]

TOP 10

#1 Ohio St.
#2 Michigan
#3 USC
#4 Florida
#5 Arkansas
#6 Notre Dame
#7 Rutgers
#8 Louisville
#9 Wisconsin
#10 CAL

*Florida edged out Arkansas because of much tougher SOS even though I think Arkansas is the better and more deserving team. But it MATTERS who you play and FL has played tougher schedule. = more deserving.

*Rutgers @ #7 because of poor SOS, not impressive resume

*CAL #10 because they have 2 losses but have played #4 SOS. TOUGH!

*ND is #6 even though they play tough SOS, but they still get punished for getting blown out @home. They have USC @USC to prove everyone they are legit and maybe worth going to BCS NC game.

:director:
*YOU ARE STUPID if you vote Arkansas ahead of USC. STUPID! There is NO ARGUMENT to vote Arkansas ahead of USC. :mj10:

Ohio St. is not "that much" better than everyone. I think they will have trouble in the BCS NC game whoever they face. The level of competition OSU has faced is not the best.

I think the one team Ohio St. would "NOT" want to face is USC. It will be very difficult for Tressel to look at gamefilm on USC all season long. Not much to study since USC has been so injured, so young and so inexperienced on both sides of the ball. Also USC has huge success against non conf. opponents because nobody is used to playing a team like USC and their style/philosophy. OSU will not get big plays against USC. They will have to be methodical and perfect repeatedly to score.

If I am USC, I be just happy to get to BCS NC game, but does USC really want to face another "mobile" QB? :scared

 

[Scott4USC]

Or lets just take the Top 16 teams in the country....
Except that isn't fair at all.

Notre Dame starts out #3 in the nation. They could possibly lose 3 games and still be 15th at season's end.
Duke starts out unranked (prob. ranked 100th) and loses one game. They are now ranked 18th. If they do happen to be ranked 16th, they get a bad seed just b/c of where they started.

You need a system in place that puts everyone on a level playing field from Day One of the season.

If you are a "DUKE" caliber team, then GO OUT and play one of the toughest OOC schedules in the country. WIN and you will earn your top 5 ranking. GO ON THE ROAD and WIN! Otherwise, DON'T COMPLAIN about being left out.

 

[Scott4USC]

My playoff system would be an 8-team playoff.

Big 12, Big 10, Pac 10, Big East, SEC, and ACC all get automatic bids. (conf. champ)

Let the BCS system decide the 2 at large teams from any conf.

Let the BCS System rank the teams 1-8 and teams 1-4 get home field in 1st round and then 2nd and 3rd round be played on neutral field.

--MEMO--

GO OUT AND PLAY A TOUGH OOC AND IF YOU WIN YOU WILL GET IN EVEN IF YOU DO NOT WIN YOUR CONF. OR BELONG TO A BCS CONF. Simple. Go schedule tough OOC road games.

 

[JJ Reddick]

ND being ranked so high wants me to puke.

 

[gjn23]

ND being ranked so high wants me to puke.

why

where should they be

6th is about right for them as rutgers-wvu-lvlle-wisc arent as good

 

[wox11]

USC WILL NOT BE IN TITLE GAME PERIOD!!!


I WISH OHIO ST. WOULD PLAY THEM TO WAKE UP SOME OF YOU TROJAN FANS THAT ARE LOOKING THROUGH YOUR ROSED COLORED GLASSES :142smilie :142smilie



USC COULD LOSE ANOTHER GAME OR 2 BEFORE THE BOWL GAMES ARE PLAYED:142smilie

 

[Scott4USC]

USC COULD LOSE ANOTHER GAME OR 2 BEFORE THE BOWL GAMES ARE PLAYED:142smilie

Of course USC could lose 1, 2 and maybe all 3 games. CAL, ND and @UCLA will be tough.

Then again, Pete Carroll has NEVER lost in November. He has his teams playing their best ball at the end of the season.

"If" USC wins their next 3 games, USC should be in the BCS National Championship game. :yup

 

[TouchdownJesus]

LOL. Why should Duke have to play tough OOC schedule when someone like USC or ND can play easier schedule and be ranked high to start with.

Sorry, just don't give a "solution" to an unfair situation. Kind of like having a wealth competition b/t me and Bill Gates' son after Bill dies and telling me to shut up and just go work harder.
Its not a fair game.

Also, doesn't matter b/t Ark/Fla b/c they will play each other for SEC Champ....
How unfair are conf. champ. games? Some conferences have them and some don't.

As for USC/Ark....who knows. Thats why we need a playoff. SEC is WAY, WAY better than Pac-2 but who knows which team is better. I wonder how we could find out.
I guess we need better computers. LOL.

 

[Scott4USC]

LOL. Why should Duke have to play tough OOC schedule when someone like USC or ND can play easier schedule and be ranked high to start with.

Sorry, just don't give a "solution" to an unfair situation

:nono: :nono: :nono:

USC this year played @Arkansas, Nebraska, and ND. That just might be the TOUGHEST OOC schedule in the entire country. Especially playing @ARKY for your season opener.

DUKE OOC= Richmond, @Alabama, Vandy and Navy

USC OOC last 10-15 years (and USC played most of these teams on road as well).............

Ohio St.
Penn St.
Florida St.
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Virginia Tech
Kansas St. (during there heyday)
Micihgan St
Notre Dame (every year)
Arkansas
Auburn
Colorado
and, in the not so distant past, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, Georgia Tech, Pittsburgh, LSU, Missouri, North Carolina (both then quality teams).

CASE CLOSED! :mj07:

NO EXCUSES! SCHEDULE TOUGH OOC GAMES OR DON'T CRY ABOUT BEING LEFT OUT!

USC's OOC + CONF. schedule will put them in the BCS NC game. If USC played directional schools like the SEC, USC would be left out!

 

[TouchdownJesus]

LOL. USC also scheduled 6-7 of the easiest games possible. Those are known as conference games. LOL....

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Alvarez just said, regarding the new BCS....

"Rutgers started too far back to get to the NC game"

What a joke. So, basically Rutgers started the season with no chance of winning the nat'l title. Very, very fair.

ND is 5th. If 1-loss Fla and 1-loss USC has a chance at the title, then I hope 1-loss ND has a shot.

College football is great but the system is pure crap.

 

[Scott4USC]

Rutgers plays #66 ranked SOS. Not very good. USC plays #2 SOS, FL plays #14 SOS, and ND plays #22 SOS.

What is easier? :shrug: Going undefeated playing #66 ranked SOS or losing just 1 game with a top 20 SOS?

Rutgers OOC = @North Carolina, Illinois, Ohio, and Howard.

NOPE, I do not feel sorry for Rutgers being left out.

If Rutgers attempted to schedule Ohio St instead of Illinois, V-Tech instead of North Carolina, anybody else besides Ohio and Howard, then Rutgers WOULD NOT be crying about being left out. They already would have 2+ losses.

SCHEDULE TOUGH OOC SO VOTERS ARE FORCED TO PUT YOU INTO THE BCS NC GAME! WHY NOT EARN YOUR TRIP TO THE BCS NC GAME INSTEAD OF IT BEING GIVEN TO YOU!

 

[Sun Tzu]

Let's see...

Boise is 10-0 and beat the crap out of Oregon State in an OOC game. I recall that being the team that kicked USC's ass. Pretty damn good argument as to why they should be ranked higher and have a shot.

How about Louisville who repeatedly gets turned down for OOC games. So does Boise. Teams dont get to just pick who they play.

But I am sure Sir Foam Finger will spin all of that. Now that his team has a shot he of course has crawled out of his hole. Now for the sake of sanity I have to root to lose my USC future bet.

The only teams that have earned a BCS title berth are the ones that are undefeated. Any team with a loss by definition is having it handed to them by way of a system that has no rhyme or reason to it.

 

[Scott4USC]

Let's see...

Boise is 10-0 and beat the crap out of Oregon State in an OOC game. I recall that being the team that kicked USC's ass. Pretty damn good argument as to why they should be ranked higher and have a shot.

How about Louisville who repeatedly gets turned down for OOC games. So does Boise. Teams dont get to just pick who they play.

But I am sure Sir Foam Finger will spin all of that.

Boise St. plays #99 ranked SOS.
USC plays the #2 ranked SOS.

Boise St. beat Oregon St. @BOISE ST. USC lost to Oregon St. @Oregon St. BIG DIFFERENCE!

Louisville has 1 loss. If they were undefeated, they might have an argument. The fact is, their schedule is NOT as impressive as some other 1 loss teams.

Teams CAN schedule a quality OOC. No excuses.

YOU GO PLAY ON THE ROAD! If they can't get home and away series, they have to settle for 1 home/2 away. PUBLICLY make an effort to schedule quality OOC opponents. If these less fortunate teams want respect, they have to EARN it. Go play on the road and win. Otherwise you are not trying to compete for a BCS NC.

USC needed 2 OOC games 2 years ago last minute. USC played @V-Tech and Colorado St. was the ONLY team who was willing to play @USC. USC did talk with Louisville (ironically one of the teams you mentioned) and they didn't make it happen. I do not know why it didn't happen but I do know both teams were talking.

IF you settle for a $hitty OOC schedule, don't cry about being left out.

The only teams that have earned a BCS title berth are the ones that are undefeated. Any team with a loss by definition is having it handed to them by way of a system that has no rhyme or reason to it.

If a team is willing to play TOUGHER schedule than most, and they lose a game, should they be penalized? I don't think so.

For arguments sake, lets say at the end of the season FLORIDA played the #1 SOS but lost a game during regular season.

You will argue they have not earned a BCS Title berth? :shrug: You say they are having it "handed" to them? :shrug:

If YOU are going to penalize/downgrade a team because they lose 1 game during the season, then what is the point of playing a tough OOC? :shrug: Schedule 3-4 cupcakes and take your chances of running the table in conf. play.

I disagree with your entire post! :nooo:

 

[The Big Tease]

I have all the respect in the world for USC and the way they will schedule anyone anywhere.....but why do it now? Isnt strength of schedule not important anymore???

And for the record.......if Ohio State is lucky enough to make it through next week.....I really dont want to face USC. I honestly dont think they make it through their tough upcoming schedule.....too young. But if they do.....no team has more raw talent......obviously.

Any other team.....Ohio State wipes the floor with them.

 

[Scott4USC]

I have all the respect in the world for USC and the way they will schedule anyone anywhere.....but why do it now? Isnt strength of schedule not important anymore???

And for the record.......if Ohio State is lucky enough to make it through next week.....I really dont want to face USC. I honestly dont think they make it through their tough upcoming schedule.....too young. But if they do.....no team has more raw talent......obviously.

Any other team.....Ohio State wipes the floor with them.

USC's SOS is what will put them past all other 1 loss teams. I believe it is WINNING MARGINS have been taken out of the BCS system. Also polls have more weight than computers. Remember, it is the # votes, not the position a team is in the polls. That is why USC is ahead of FL, VOTES + COMPUTERS.

You are right, USC has the talent to compete with Ohio St. and it looks like USC is FINALLY improving on both sides of the ball. USC vs OSU will be fantastic matchup IF USC doesn't turn the ball over. Troy Smiths mobility and experience is what separates the 2 teams.

OSU is big play offense. USC on D takes away big plays. It will be interesting matchup. (if it happens)

I still think Ohio St. struggles in the BCS NC game against anyone (except Big East team). And I agree with you that USC prob. is the biggest nightmare for OSU.

 

[The Big Tease]

USC's SOS is what will put them past all other 1 loss teams. I believe it is WINNING MARGINS have been taken out of the BCS system. Also polls have more weight than computers. Remember, it is the # votes, not the position a team is in the polls. That is why USC is ahead of FL, VOTES + COMPUTERS.

You are right, USC has the talent to compete with Ohio St. and it looks like USC is FINALLY improving on both sides of the ball. USC vs OSU will be fantastic matchup IF USC doesn't turn the ball over. Troy Smiths mobility and experience is what separates the 2 teams.

OSU is big play offense. USC on D takes away big plays. It will be interesting matchup. (if it happens)

I still think Ohio St. struggles in the BCS NC game against anyone (except Big East team). And I agree with you that USC prob. is the biggest nightmare for OSU.

Oh OK, I think that is right, I was thinking about margin of victory.

It is possible for Ohio State to struggle in a "possible" title game, but much like Carroll, Tressel is too good of a coach and if given 50 days to prepare....the boys will be ready.

I'm not sure if I agree that OSU is a big play offense either......I think that is by circumstance rather than design. Tress would rather let Pittman and Wells run all day, but Troy is so good at improvising that a lot of times, he makes big plays on the run. But most of our receivers are possession type receivers. I think our only true deep threat by design is Robieski.......and give it a year or two and he will be one of the best 3 receivers in college football.