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http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/10/obama-campaign.html


WFTV-Channel 9's Barbara West conducted a satellite interview with Sen. Joe Biden on Thursday. A friend says it's some of the best entertainment he's seen recently. What do you think?

West wondered about Sen. Barack Obama's comment, to Joe the Plumber, about spreading the wealth. She quoted Karl Marx and asked how Obama isn't being a Marxist with the "spreading the wealth" comment.

"Are you joking?" said Biden, who is Obama's running mate. "No," West said.

West later asked Biden about his comments that Obama could be tested early on as president. She wondered if the Delaware senator was saying America's days as the world's leading power were over.

"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden shot back.

Biden so disliked West's line of questioning that the Obama campaign canceled a WFTV interview with Jill Biden, the candidate's wife.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign.
 

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AP INVESTIGATION: Palin pipeline terms curbed bids
By JUSTIN PRITCHARD and GARANCE BURKE

Associated Press Writers

ANCHORAGE, Alaska ?
Gov. Sarah Palin's signature accomplishment ? a contract to build a 1,715-mile pipeline to bring natural gas from Alaska to the Lower 48 ? emerged from a flawed bidding process that narrowed the field to a company with ties to her administration, an Associated Press investigation shows.

Beginning at the Republican National Convention in August, the McCain-Palin ticket has touted the pipeline as an example of how it would help America achieve energy independence.

In this Feb. 27, 2008 file photo, Senate President Lyda Green, R-Wasilla, listens to testimony during a Senate Resources Committee meeting in Juneau, Alaska. (AP Photo/Chris Miller, file)

"We're building a nearly $40 billion natural gas pipeline, which is North America's largest and most expensive infrastructure project ever, to flow those sources of energy into hungry markets," Palin said during the Oct. 2 vice presidential debate.

Despite Palin's boast of a smart and fair bidding process, the AP found that her team crafted terms that favored only a few independent pipeline companies and ultimately benefited the winner, TransCanada Corp.:scared

In interviews and a review of records, the AP found:

_Instead of creating a process that would attract many potential builders, Palin slanted the terms away from an important group ? the global energy giants that own the rights to the gas.
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_Despite promises and legal guidance not to talk directly with potential bidders, Palin had meetings or phone calls with nearly every major candidate, including TransCanada.:scared

_The leader of Palin's pipeline team had been a partner at a lobbying firm where she worked on behalf of a TransCanada subsidiary. Also, that woman's former business partner at the lobbying firm was TransCanada's lead private lobbyist on the pipeline deal, interacting with legislators in the weeks before the vote to grant TransCanada the contract. Plus, a former TransCanada executive served as an outside consultant to Palin's pipeline team.:(

_Under a different set of rules four years earlier, TransCanada had offered to build the pipeline without a state subsidy; under Palin, the company could receive a maximum $500 million.:scared

ONLY ONE VIABLE BIDDER

There were never more than a few players that could execute such a complex undertaking ? at least a million tons of steel stretching across some of Earth's most hostile and remote terrain.

TransCanada estimates it will cost $26 billion; Palin's consultants estimate nearly $40 billion.

The pipeline would run from Alaska's North Slope to Alberta in Canada; secondary supply lines would take the gas to various points in the United States and Canada. The pipeline would carry 4.5 billion cubic feet of natural gas daily, about 8 percent of the present U.S. market.

Building such a pipeline had been a dream for decades. The rising cost and demand for energy injected new urgency into the proposal.

So too did the depletion of Alaska's long-reliable reserves of oil, which are trapped in the same Arctic Circle reservoirs as clean-burning natural gas. Not only does that oil provide jobs, it pays for an annual dividend check to nearly every Alaska resident. This year's payment was $2,069, 25 percent higher than 2007 ? plus a $1,200 bonus rebate to help offset higher energy costs.

Palin was elected as governor two years ago in part because of her populist appeal. Promising "New Energy for Alaska," she vowed to take on Exxon Mobil Corp., ConocoPhillips and BP, the multinational energy companies that long dominated the state's biggest industry.

Oil interests were particularly unpopular at that moment: Federal agents had recently raided the offices of six lawmakers in a Justice Department investigation into whether an Alaska oil services company paid bribes in exchange for promoting a new taxing formula that would ultimately further the multinationals' pipeline plans.

Palin ousted fellow Republican Gov. Frank Murkowski, who pushed a pipeline deal he negotiated in secret with the "Big Three" energy companies. That deal went nowhere.

With Alaskans eager for progress and sour on Big Oil, Palin tackled the pipeline issue with gusto, meeting with representatives from all sides and assembling her own team of experts to draw up terms.

Palin invited bidders to submit applications and offered the multimillion-dollar subsidy. Members of Palin's team say that without the incentive, it might not have received any bids for the risky undertaking.

TIES THAT BIND

Palin's team was led by Marty Rutherford, a widely respected energy specialist who entered the upper levels of state government nearly 20 years ago. Rutherford solidified her status when, in 2005, she joined an exodus of Department of Natural Resources staff who felt Murkowski was selling out to the oil giants.

What the Palin administration didn't tell legislators ? and neglected to mention in its announcement of Rutherford's appointment ? was that in 2003, Rutherford left public service and worked for 10 months at the Anchorage-based Jade North lobbying firm. There she did $40,200 worth of work for Foothills Pipe Lines Alaska, Inc., a subsidiary of TransCanada.

Foothills Pipe Lines Alaska Inc. paid Rutherford for expertise on topics including state legislation and funding related to gas commercialization, according to her 2003 lobbyist registration statement.

Palin has said she wasn't bothered by that past work because it had occurred several years before. But Rutherford wouldn't have passed her new boss' own standards: Under ethics reforms the governor pushed through, Rutherford would have had to wait a year to jump from government service to a lobbying firm.

Rutherford also has downplayed her work for Foothills.

"I did a couple of projects for them, small projects," she told a state Senate committee examining the TransCanada bid earlier this year. While a partner, Rutherford said, she "realized that my heart was not in the private sector, it was in the public sector, and I sold out for the same amount of money I bought in for."

At one point, Palin's pipeline team debated Rutherford's role, but concluded there was no problem.

"We were looking at it in terms of is this an actual conflict or is there the appearance of impropriety of Marty's participation," said Pat Galvin, the commissioner of the Revenue Department and another top team member. "It was determined that there was none, and so we moved forward."

Patricia Bielawski, Rutherford's former partner at Jade North, spent last summer in Juneau, the state capital, serving as TransCanada's lead private lobbyist on the pipeline deal. While the Legislature debated ? and ultimately approved ? the TransCanada deal, Bielawski met with lawmakers and sat in on the public proceedings, several legislators said.

Bielawski told AP earlier this month that Rutherford's employment at her firm was irrelevant. She said Rutherford never directly lobbied the Legislature for Foothills, and that Rutherford broke no rules based on 2003 state ethics guidelines.

"There's no statutory or regulatory prohibition that extends to things that many years ago," Bielawski said. "So there's no issue."

But others say it's a legitimate question.

"I'm not saying someone's getting paid off for a sweetheart contract, but it's very hard to ignore that this is your former partner and your former client standing there before you," said Republican Sen. Lyda Green, a Palin critic who in August was among the handful of lawmakers who voted against awarding TransCanada the license. "Every time it was mentioned to the governor or to the commission, it was like, 'How could you question such a wonderful person?'"

Tony Palmer, the TransCanada vice president who leads the company's Alaska gas pipeline effort, rejects the suggestion that his company benefited.

"We have gained clearly no advantage from anything that Ms. Rutherford did for Foothills some five years ago on a very much unrelated topic," he said.

Rutherford did not respond to interview requests made directly to her and through the governor's office. But Griffin, the spokesman for the McCain-Palin campaign, said Rutherford "had no decision-making role or authority," and contended that such matters were handled by others on the Palin pipeline team.

TransCanada also had a connection to the team hired by the Palin administration to analyze the bid. Patrick Anderson, a former TransCanada executive, served as an outside consultant and ultimately helped the state conclude that TransCanada's technical solution for shipping gas through freezing temperatures would work.

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NARROW SET OF RULES

In January 2007, Palin spoke the first of at least two times to Vice President Dick Cheney, the Bush administration's point person on energy issues, according to calendars obtained by the AP through a public records request. Cheney's staff pressed the Palin administration to draw in the energy companies, said current and former state officials involved in those discussions.

As the governor's approach unfolded in the spring of 2007, there were signs it was skewed in a different direction.

Palin said she saw problems if the firms that own the gas also owned the pipeline. They could manipulate the market or charge prohibitive fees to smaller exploration firms, discouraging competition.

Several important requirements in the legislation were unpalatable to the big oil companies. In the talks under Murkowski, the firms asked that the rates for the gas production tax and royalties be fixed for 45 years; Palin refused to consider setting rates for that long.

Under the Palin process, the pipeline firms had an advantage because they simply pass along taxes paid by oil and gas producers.

Oil company officials warned lawmakers they wouldn't participate under those terms. Still, in a near unanimous vote, the Legislature passed the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act in May 2007, generally as written by Palin's pipeline team.

Once the state issued its request for proposals on July 2, 2007, the level of communication between the government and potential bidders was supposed to decrease drastically, so that no one would be accused of gaining unfair advantage. State lawyers advised public officials to keep their distance, and bidders were told to submit questions on a Web site where answers could be seen by all.

Several of the state's gas line team members interviewed by AP said they had no contact with possible bidders. But Palin had conversations with executives at most of the major potential bidders during that period, according to her calendars.

While the calendars don't detail what was discussed, the documents indicate that the pipeline was the subject of the discussions, or that the conversations occurred immediately after a briefing with Palin's pipeline team.

When she was in Michigan for a National Governors Association summit in late July 2007, Palin and her team met executives from Williams Co., a pipeline builder that ended up not bidding.

"The purpose of the meeting was to more fully understand the details of the project, which we were still evaluating at the time," company spokeswoman Julie Gentz said in a statement.

TransCanada's Palmer described communication with state officials as nonexistent.

According to the governor's official schedule, however, Palin called TransCanada President and CEO Hal Kvisle on Aug. 8, 2007. Asked about that call, Palmer said it was to clarify the bidding process.

Griffin said that in keeping with legal guidance, Palin never spoke in any of the meetings about the competitive bidding process.

By the Nov. 30 submission deadline, there were five applications. But the state disqualified four for failing to satisfy the bill's requirements.

That left TransCanada.

The Canadian giant had been pursuing an Alaska pipeline since at least 2004, when the company negotiated a deal with Rutherford that the state ended up shelving. While the details remain confidential, six people familiar with the terms told the AP that TransCanada was willing to do the work then without the large state subsidy.

In testimony this July before the state Senate, Rutherford herself confirmed such a willingness, but described the 2004 deal as presenting a different set of trade-offs. A state lawyer warned her not to say more, lest she violate a confidentiality agreement.

Others who reviewed the deal think much of the $500 million will be wasted money.

"Most definitely TransCanada got a sweetheart deal this time," said Republican Sen. Bert Stedman, who voted against the TransCanada license. "Where else could you get a $500 million reimbursement when you don't even have the financing to build the pipeline?"

Associated Press writer Brett J. Blackledge contributed to this report.
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Sarah Palin has gone Rogue !

Does any of this stuff about Palin not concern you DTB ?

Holy Batballs. She is single handedly handing over the election to Obama .

Palin / McCain :sadwave:
 

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Must be that Liberal Media again.

Just another way of infringing on freedom of speech--

You had all candidates hide from Fox and withdraw from debate--

You had O camp email camp to try and foil wgbn radio interview--

"In the next few hours, we have a crucial opportunity to fight one of
the most cynical and offensive smears ever launched against Barack.

Tonight, WGN radio is giving right-wing hatchet man Stanley Kurtz a
forum to air his baseless, fear-mongering terrorist smears. He?s
currently scheduled to spend a solid two-hour block from 9:00 to 11:00
p.m. pushing lies, distortions, and manipulations about Barack and
University of Illinois professor William Ayers.

Tell WGN that by providing Kurtz with airtime, they are legitimizing
baseless attacks from a smear-merchant and lowering the standards of
political discourse.

Call into the ?Extension 720″ show with Milt Rosenberg at (312) 591-7200

(Show airs from 9:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. tonight)

Then report back on your call at http://my.barackobama.com/WGNstandards

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Appears your whole campaign pivots around --rhetoric in friendly environment :shrug:
 

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hello am I invisible ?

are you just ignoring facts now so close to the end ?

will you still stand behind Rogue Palin as a smart choice for McCain VP ?

she gone rogue on us.

she diva

she wont listen to her handlers :scared :sadwave:
 

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Didn't see where your response had anything to do with topic

We've been looking forward to your thread that defines why your voting for obama other than the hope-change-yes we can rhetoric--

and we have got nothing other than kurby for over a year now
--however you have lots of company :)
 

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Didn't see where your response had anything to do with topic

We've been looking forward to your thread that defines why your voting for obama other than the hope-change-yes we can rhetoric--

and we have got nothing other than kurby for over a year now
--however you have lots of company :)
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I dont think I should have to respond directly to get a reply.

Rogue Palin ? whats your thoughts ?
 

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Didn't see where your response had anything to do with topic

We've been looking forward to your thread that defines why your voting for obama other than the hope-change-yes we can rhetoric--

and we have got nothing other than kurby for over a year now
--however you have lots of company :)

I think most hard working real Americans that are voting for obama are voting against the rebuplican party... It doesn't matter who the opposition is.. When the right has done to the American people and their way of life, what they have done... They leave the people only one option : anything but rebuplican....
 

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I think most hard working real Americans that are voting for obama are voting against the rebuplican party... It doesn't matter who the opposition is.. When the right has done to the American people and their way of life, what they have done... They leave the people only one option : anything but rebuplican....

Would have to agree somewhat Mr B
--that they have to be voting for something other than O's credentials--as there are none.

A few things confuse me however--
A: if everyone thought GOP did such a bad job how did GW get more votes in 04 than 00.
B: If your going to vote against someone you think fck up--how does your base vote in Marion Barry-cold cash jefferson etc
--and how did Barney and Kennedy get life time terms--and what about disbarred felon getting voted in to 2nd term as pres--and pelosi promised low gas and vibrant economy if they gained the majority in 06--WTF--and they look to gain more seats.

-so pardon me if I think your assumption is somewhat tainted.
 

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Dogs all the Republicans have left is baseless smears against Obama. Have you thought that this guy has been running for almost 4 years. He took on the "evil" Clintons, he tool on the Republican Party. Hell, he is a black man running for President. And they have thrown everything at him including the kitchen sink and nothing sticks. Admit it, the guy is cllean. Try to beat him by defending whatever it is that McCain is offering. McCain is offering change! :142smilie All he has done is taken Obama's tag line and tried to use it as his own. Other than that when he is not throwing mud he is offering up frauds.
 
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I have always said, forget about the smoke screen issues when you go to vote... Working Americans will do that in this election.... bottom line : 911 happened on this watch, they fucked it up with iraq, home values are shit, ret accounts are shit, jobs are shit,the cost of everyting you buy is higher than it was , Our standinng in the world is shit .... how can anyone support a party that has done, what this party has to America ? This is not the party of Reagan & Buckley, if it was, I would be on board.... The right is not what it was, we can only hope, yes hope Obama is not with pelosi, bush,reid & cheney .... What have we got to lose ????? In my business we break it down, it looks real messy before the final product. We need an overhaul, we have to break this thing up ! It's all about power, it has swung way to far to the right, The People have to swing it back. .......carter/reagan-bush/clinton/bush/.... The people know what to do..... BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA !
 

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hello am I invisible ?

are you just ignoring facts now so close to the end ?

will you still stand behind Rogue Palin as a smart choice for McCain VP ?

she gone rogue on us.

she diva

she wont listen to her handlers :scared :sadwave:

why don`t you start your own thread and stop avoiding the topic?....it`s dtb`s thread...

if you can`t converse on a topic,start your own thread...
 

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Would have to agree somewhat Mr B
--that they have to be voting for something other than O's credentials--as there are none.

A few things confuse me however--
A: if everyone thought GOP did such a bad job how did GW get more votes in 04 than 00.
B: If your going to vote against someone you think fck up--how does your base vote in Marion Barry-cold cash jefferson etc
--and how did Barney and Kennedy get life time terms--and what about disbarred felon getting voted in to 2nd term as pres--and pelosi promised low gas and vibrant economy if they gained the majority in 06--WTF--and they look to gain more seats.

-so pardon me if I think your assumption is somewhat tainted.

my base doesn't vote for barney, pelosi, kennedy, bush/cheney the 2nd time .... not all republicans are like you and not all democrats support these people.... most Americans have no use for leadership on either side... most of us don't see the difference between pelisi & bush....
 
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Would have to agree somewhat Mr B
--that they have to be voting for something other than O's credentials--as there are none.

A few things confuse me however--
A: if everyone thought GOP did such a bad job how did GW get more votes in 04 than 00.
B: If your going to vote against someone you think fck up--how does your base vote in Marion Barry-cold cash jefferson etc
--and how did Barney and Kennedy get life time terms--and what about disbarred felon getting voted in to 2nd term as pres--and pelosi promised low gas and vibrant economy if they gained the majority in 06--WTF--and they look to gain more seats.

-so pardon me if I think your assumption is somewhat tainted.

pardon me if I think your thought process is absolutely tainted.
 

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http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/10/obama-campaign.html


WFTV-Channel 9's Barbara West conducted a satellite interview with Sen. Joe Biden on Thursday. A friend says it's some of the best entertainment he's seen recently. What do you think?

West wondered about Sen. Barack Obama's comment, to Joe the Plumber, about spreading the wealth. She quoted Karl Marx and asked how Obama isn't being a Marxist with the "spreading the wealth" comment.

"Are you joking?" said Biden, who is Obama's running mate. "No," West said.

West later asked Biden about his comments that Obama could be tested early on as president. She wondered if the Delaware senator was saying America's days as the world's leading power were over.

"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden shot back.

Biden so disliked West's line of questioning that the Obama campaign canceled a WFTV interview with Jill Biden, the candidate's wife.

"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign.

here is the you tube of the interview, Biden is an asshole. The left can't handle hard questions. :mj07:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM
 

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here is the you tube of the interview, Biden is an asshole. The left can't handle hard questions. :mj07:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

Thought Biden had the wrong type of experience for the Obama ticket but he was very good here.... that's joe at his best..... I don't like him but I'll take him over palin..... anyone that questions Obamas qualifications but stands behind palin must be _________ or think the rest of us are..... just imagine if palin was a black woman and a democrat... What would the right say about her ? With her family values and intellect, only in White America is she possible .
 

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why don`t you start your own thread and stop avoiding the topic?....it`s dtb`s thread...

if you can`t converse on a topic,start your own thread...

lmao!

Wayne leads the league in changing or ignoring the subject and here you come prancing in lecturing somebody else about changing the subject in one of Waynes threads. That's funny.

Wayne, for the 10th time. So far, no comment at all from you in response to the following query.

You prattle on about how 'family values' are soooo important to you. Do you have any comment on McCain banging a hot rich mistress while his wife was in the hospital?

Sorry about this Wease, but a thread about 'family values' was already started, by Wayne ironically, and his promise that he had a long list of Obama transgressions on this topic, yet he actually didn't come up with even one. Then he ignored the question above.

Wayne, what say you?

Sounds like this is all hat and no cattle from you this time.
 

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Dogs all the Republicans have left is baseless smears against Obama. Have you thought that this guy has been running for almost 4 years. He took on the "evil" Clintons, he tool on the Republican Party. Hell, he is a black man running for President. And they have thrown everything at him including the kitchen sink and nothing sticks. Admit it, the guy is cllean. Try to beat him by defending whatever it is that McCain is offering. McCain is offering change! :142smilie All he has done is taken Obama's tag line and tried to use it as his own. Other than that when he is not throwing mud he is offering up frauds.

It's not it doesn't stick it that his base doesn't care-did you miss the cold cash-marion barry-barny-kennedy etc note.

They are all in your intellectual mode--I can pull up numerous post of you dogging GW on suspected cocaine abuse but not a peep on 0.
So it is a given your objectivity goes along party lines not deeds.

Rumor has it Soros made bet with king Abdullah of Saudi Arabia on 1-1-04 (month after capture of Hussein (Saddam) and Hussein (Barrack) was unknown- for sizable sum on how much control he had over his liberal lemmings.

The stories goes he would wager if odds were right--that he could by virtue of media and money dupe his base into voting for man with Muslim name (including Hussein) who was raised in dysfunctional back round with assiciations of radicals-terrorist and mafia--with 0 qualification or experience and get him elected pres of U.S. by 2012. King said no way--soros said -yes we can-smiled and wrote those three words on paper and stuck it his pocket. ;)
 

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I always considered DTB and GW to be the intellectual leaders of the moronic neo base. I now realize how fundamentally addled and deficient they are.
 
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