Can we pipe down for 2 more minutes about the Sooners beating Oregon?
We don't need that bad karma.
We don't need that bad karma.
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Jerseydrifter said:
What did I say that wasn't true or doesn't have merit? You call it excuses but you fail to explain why it isn't valid.
I guess playing with or without your starting QB isn't significant. No difference between road and home games? I suppose it is easy to play back to back road games against quality opponents.
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Scott, u know i rarely back you when it comes to anything including Pac10 and def. SC. But yes, your right, ASU prepared all year fo that game and played their best football of the year.Scott4USC said:
And does anyone remember Oregons score oh yeah they beat them by 30. So even though i do think the pac10 is the weakest of the big conferences, ASU and ORE were different teams.
But you cant deny Pac-10 is getting exposed in these bowl games. Cal beating BYU by a touchdown, ASU barely beating Rutgers. Oklahoma taking down the #6 team and #2 Pac-10. If it wasnt for SC this conference would be a joke.
Oh caesar, come out and lets hear your take on the game. I dont want to hear it from anybody else who backed Oklahoma because as we all know, we wwere just talking out of our asses anyway. So I am curious how the #3 team in the country got handled?
wow......I can't help but wonder after watching those ducks that maybe just maybe them and not ND deserve to be in the fiesta! I don't think we could've hung 7 on Okie tonight.....the other 7 I'm not counting because it was a phucking sympathy gift from the zebras!! Good game "o"verrated!! :mj07: :mj07:
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Hey Mr. FIGHT ON!!! Any excuses for the 4th? Your playing at HOME, No BACK TO BACK and I sure hope no one is dinged up??Is everyone OK at USC any scratches or cuts?=We want to make it a fair game for you. NO MORE EXCUSES CHUMP!!!!!YOUR PAC 10 is getting it handed to them!!!!OUTTT!!!!
JERSEY
JERSEY
Scott4USC said:
Thats why ND's gameplan worked the best against USC. Sometimes the only way to stop a GREAT offense, is with offense of your own. I'm not talking about a shootout, but ball control doing whatever you can to KEEP USC'S OFFENSE OFF THE FIELD. No college football defense can stop a team with that many weapons. Outscoring them doesnt work and opponents that have taken that approach play right into the Trojan's strength. If you dominate in time of possession, it doesnt matter if you can stop them or not. A team is going to score fewer points if they only get 10 cracks at it, instead of 13 or 14.
I certainly agree with you here scott. We know Texas has the ATHLETES to make it a great game, but my question is do they have the GAMEPLAN? USC has WAAAAAAY more talent than ND, particularly on the defensive side of the ball, yet it was a great game. I think Texas has the talent, but I doubt Brown has the gameplan. We will see shortly.
I dont know which game I am anticipating more, Fiesta or Rose Bowl. I think both will be hands down the most entertaining games of the bowl season, regardless of the outcomes. No teams draw an audience like ND and USC. Hell the fact that ND can put on a show and draw a crowd might be the only reason they're in the game. :mj07:
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Didnt I read this week that ticket sales to the Fiesta are 2-1 Ohio State....so who is drawing the crowd?
mcity said:
Tonight's game made the BCS look ingenius and proved that some flaws are being worked out. The Oregon game tonight was NOT ENTERTAINING, THEY LOST TO A GOOD, BUT NOT GREAT TEAM, AND they sure did NOTHING to convince me the BCS dropped the ball by picking ND instead.
That slams the door on all the idiots that said ND didnt deserve the BCS berth instead of Oregon. Now lets see Auburn handle wisconsin FIRST to silence the other crowd that thought Auburn was more deserving. Hard to believe, but yes, there are some out there who actually said that. :mj07:
Sun Tzu said:
Two questions:
A.) where did you read that, because I doubt it is true. Statistics are RARELY that black and white. I'm sure the 2-1 ticket sales are just based on maybe "online ticket brokers, or maybe ebay or something", as opposed to the whole lot. Schools distribute their tickets through a lottery, that is based on SIZE OF ALUMNI BASE. If you knew anything about colleges, you would understand that ND graduates a class of about 2,000 per year, while OSU has an undergraduate student body of close to 40,000. Who has the bigger alumni base, and therefore is awarded more tickets from the game to be distributed via lottery? OSU. It is not a black and white case of supply and demand when someone pulls the strings on the ticket supply pool. Simple economics Sun.
B.) even IF its true, you obviously dont understand how L-O-T-T-E-R-I-E-S work do you? I know many fellow ND alum who are going to the game. The school is given a certain amount of tickets to distribute to alum and so forth. They dont pick the number. Its NOT a pure "ticket sale".
I'm sure a small number of tickets are sold to brokers like ticketmaster, etc, and MAYBE out of those sales, OSU is selling more, but that is not conclusive as to the entire game. If that number is say 10,000 tickets, and OSU fans have purchased them at a 2-1 rate over ND fans, what about the other 60,000 tickets or how ever many more there are???
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Each school gets the same number of tickets. Same is true in every bowl game. Texas is twice is big as USC - each school gets 22k.
Economics has nothing to do with it.
Economics has nothing to do with it.
Sun Tzu said:
Then what you said simply is NOT true, OR doesnt include the schools ticket lotteries.
WHY WOULD THERE BE A LOTTERY IF THEY COULDNT GET RID OF TICKETS??? :mj07:
Give me a link otherwise what you said deserves no credit
Think about what you just said.
Each school gets the same amount of tickets, and each has a lottery because of the demand for tickets, with the assumption there will be no leftovers. Then how are OSU tickets going at a 2-1 rate? Your statements defy logic Sun.
Like I said above, that statistic may be based on leftovers that are NOT distributed through the school. That statistic is not conclusive on the entire ticket pool if thats the case.
Economics has EVERYTHING to do with it :mj07:
Each school gets the same amount of tickets, and each has a lottery because of the demand for tickets, with the assumption there will be no leftovers. Then how are OSU tickets going at a 2-1 rate? Your statements defy logic Sun.
Like I said above, that statistic may be based on leftovers that are NOT distributed through the school. That statistic is not conclusive on the entire ticket pool if thats the case.
Economics has EVERYTHING to do with it :mj07:
Yea whatever..as if what you say deserves credit. You want a link your lazy ass can find it.
Rose Bowl is an example. About half the tickets go to schools, the rest are public sales and corporate sponsors. Generally that half is in large amounts scalped. In the Fiesta Ohio State is buying the vast majority of those tickets. Maybe their alums just make more money or care more about the game.
The school's tickets are obviously distributed by the school's in whatever manner they choose. I would doubt it is a pure lottery - bigger donors get the tickets. Texas Rose Bowl donors of $2k/yr got tickets, as well as lettermen and some students.
Rose Bowl is an example. About half the tickets go to schools, the rest are public sales and corporate sponsors. Generally that half is in large amounts scalped. In the Fiesta Ohio State is buying the vast majority of those tickets. Maybe their alums just make more money or care more about the game.
The school's tickets are obviously distributed by the school's in whatever manner they choose. I would doubt it is a pure lottery - bigger donors get the tickets. Texas Rose Bowl donors of $2k/yr got tickets, as well as lettermen and some students.
Charlie Weis has SUPER BOWL rings to prove he is a master game planner Sun. thats why the ND USC game was so good.
Mack Brown only has an engagement ring. We all know his record in big games.....
Mack Brown only has an engagement ring. We all know his record in big games.....
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