Please help to settle a bet.

[BleedDodgerBlue]

It's easy to talk tough, but where is the proof?

Just saying it means nothing, I've search for proof, can't come up with a thing. If this was such a hard coded rule at least 1 sports book would have it listed somewhere.

I'll believe it when I see it.

nobody's talking tough to you wally

just a reality check that you don't know anything about sports if you think a baseball game can end in a tie.

do me a favor. email csd@pinnaclesports.com

explain your little ten dollar bet to them and then you will have your proof. by the way, i'm not sure what a hard coded rule is, so when you come back here with your tail between your legs let us know what that means.

you probably aren't a bad guy. you are just wrong and obviously the guy whos down ten bucks. try talking to agent. he went through this at the beginning as well


gl

 

[The Sponge]

It's easy to talk tough, but where is the proof?

Just saying it means nothing, I've search for proof, can't come up with a thing. If this was such a hard coded rule at least 1 sports book would have it listed somewhere.

I'll believe it when I see it.

well at least we established one thing yyz was correct about this being you who this is about.

 

[The Sponge]

nobody's talking tough to you wally

just a reality check that you don't know anything about sports if you think a baseball game can end in a tie.

do me a favor. email csd@pinnaclesports.com

explain your little ten dollar bet to them and then you will have your proof. by the way, i'm not sure what a hard coded rule is, so when you come back here with your tail between your legs let us know what that means.

you probably aren't a bad guy. you are just wrong and obviously the guy whos down ten bucks. try talking to agent. he went through this at the beginning as well


gl

For what it is worth, when you get mad you do come up with some funny names. Wally, cement mixer (my personal favorite) and i forgot what you called Vinny. :142smilie

 

[lewehands]

Wally :142smilie :mj07: Hey vinny...wheres the picture of the beav?:shrug:

 

[SportzGenius]

just a reality check that you don't know anything about sports if you think a baseball game can end in a tie.
gl

My reference to the baseball tie came directly from a sportsbooks rules wording on what would happen IF there were a tie. I realize they will eventually finish those games during the regular season but a tie can happen.

The 2002 All star game ended in a tie.
All spring training games will also end after 10 innings if they are tied.

Oops, guess I do know something.

Edit:
Here is a real life reference to another one.

In baseball, all games that go at least the full 9 innings and finish tied as a result of a suspension of play, shall be graded as a push on all money line bets. However, all run line and total bets will have action. Note that this is an extremely rare occurrence. In the event of a change in Las Vegas rules, Belmont.com will adhere to the decision set forth in Las Vegas.
http://www.belmont.com/legal_sports.htm

 

[SportzGenius]

do me a favor. email csd@pinnaclesports.com

Done,
Here is the response from Pinnacle Sports.
I used the NFL as an example in my original email so he was a bit confused, he clears it up at the end.


Dear Sir,

Please provide us with your Pinnacle Sports account number in each email.

Please note that currently it is not NFL season and we currently do not offer the odds for this competition. Therefore we are not sure which sport you are indeed referring to.

However, if you wager at total points for over 9 for NFL and if the final result is 9, so your wager will be graded as "No Action" and monies will be refunded.

Therefore, Tie for NFL does not count a half win as Australian Rules (AFL), Rugby League, Super League and Rugby Union do.

So the final answer is it depends on what sport you are betting on, some count a tie as a half win and some don't.

Looks like most of you need to freshen up on your gambling rules, or at least learn how to do a little research before trying to act like a "genius" :nono:

 

[Agent 0659]

Hey genius, you spelled sports wrong!:com:

 

[MadJack]

Looks like most of you need to freshen up on your gambling rules, or at least learn how to do a little research before trying to act like a "genius" :nono:

what are you talking about?

the question is:

When betting on OVER/UNDER win totals in the NFL (or any sport for that matter) do ties count as half wins?
Meaning if the Packers win total is 5 and they had 12 ties (Obviously impossible but easier to explain) would the 12 ties equal 6 wins?

Or if the Packers total was 5 wins and they won 5 games and tied one game would that be OVER?


and the answer is:

NO

 

[lewehands]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:com: :iagree: :thinking: The answer is no

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

Done,
Here is the response from Pinnacle Sports.
I used the NFL as an example in my original email so he was a bit confused, he clears it up at the end.


Dear Sir,

Please provide us with your Pinnacle Sports account number in each email.

Please note that currently it is not NFL season and we currently do not offer the odds for this competition. Therefore we are not sure which sport you are indeed referring to.

However, if you wager at total points for over 9 for NFL and if the final result is 9, so your wager will be graded as "No Action" and monies will be refunded.

Therefore, Tie for NFL does not count a half win as Australian Rules (AFL), Rugby League, Super League and Rugby Union do.

So the final answer is it depends on what sport you are betting on, some count a tie as a half win and some don't.

Looks like most of you need to freshen up on your gambling rules, or at least learn how to do a little research before trying to act like a "genius" :nono:

listen chithead. the question was football. american football. not the european football, not cricket or whatever else gets you going. the question was football. you were wrong. nobody gives a chit here about sports that end in ties.

and baseball games can't end in a tie. they can be suspended. and this is a total wins, not a one game question.

theres about 3 guys here that care about afl, rugby, or rugby union.

stop being a sore loser and pay the guy his money. its people like you that try and sucker your way out of bets that are idiots.

go to a rugby board and post there. you might find more friends. i hope that isn't hard coded enough for ya

bl

 

[SportzGenius]

Oh boy, one last time. As requested I sent and email to csd@pinnaclesports.com (A reference chosen by BleedDodgerBlue). Here is my email.
Exactly the same as PocketAces original question but more realistic.


Hello,

I was wondering if you could clarify a rule for me on betting the over/under on an NFL team.

If the over is 9 and the team goes 9-6-1 what happens?

Does the tie count as a half win as it does in the NFL?

I'm going to trust a guy from Pinnacle Sports who gets paid to know gambling rules before some guys on a message board who *think* they know.

What is so hard to understand about this?

Therefore, Tie for NFL does not count a half win as Australian Rules (AFL), Rugby League, Super League and Rugby Union do.

Depending on what you bet on some sports count a tie as a half win, others do not. In the example your source used there are 4 that do and 1 that does not. I'm sure that list could be expanded to many other sports but what else is needed?

My job is done here.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

you missed the point which isn't too hard to fathom.

when betting season totals in hockey or rugby league, or anything else that gets you off you bet on total points.

for example, if one were to bet a season total of hockey, it would be by total points where of course a tie counts as one point. but you are betting on points, not wins.
there is no book that takes hockey wins, only total points. i'd imagine same in soccer or any other sport that grades their league by points earned.

you are talking about a bet that doesn't and cannot exist.

the nfl, which is the bet in question grades by total wins. period. a tie counts as nothing.

so you cannot have a total wins bet in any of the sports you mentioned. you can have a total points, but that wasn't the question and you know that.

like a said, you probably aren't a bad guy. just void of character to try and weasel out of a bet.

glad your work is done here. this thread is about as useless as it gets.

 

[Agent 0659]

this thread is about as useless as it gets.

Posts in this useless as it gets thread

BleedDodgerBlue 6
SportzGenius 5
PocketAces 4
lewehands 4
yyz 4
The Sponge 2
MadJack 1
IntenseOperator 1
Morris 1
penguinfan 1
AR182 1
Agent 0659 1
RexBudler 1

 

[Agent 0659]

bl

:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie

 

[The Sponge]

yyz, i think you said you have a buddy like this guy back in your suna post. You ever get paid for that bet or did he double or nothing you? Something about Ben Sheets pitching i think.

 

[yyz]

yyz, i think you said you have a buddy like this guy back in your suna post. You ever get paid for that bet or did he double or nothing you? Something about Ben Sheets pitching i think.

He paid me $8 of the $10 he owed me!!!!!!

:mj07:

Therefore, Tie for NFL does not count a half win as Australian Rules (AFL), Rugby League, Super League and Rugby Union do.

So the final answer is it depends on what sport you are betting on, some count a tie as a half win and some don't.

Looks like most of you need to freshen up on your gambling rules, or at least learn how to do a little research before trying to act like a "genius" :nono:

Sure thing, Sport-O.

I'm pretty sure you two had a bet going on Rugby Union........

I'll stand in line in the middle of the pitch to suck the sweat off of your nuts in Lyon, France on September 8th before the Austrailia/Japan match of the Rugby World Cup, if you meant one of those sports!

Any guy too fuking stupid to understand how an over/under works on an NFL season total, sure as hell doesn't know about sports played "over there"!

Don't act like you schooled anyone here today.

 

[SportzGenius]

Sorry again, but the bet wasn't football. It was "Vegas Rules" the NFL was just an example to use. Something easy for you guys to understand.
As far as Vegas rules go you can bet on a plethora of sports, not just the NFL. And I know damn well you degenerates are laying money on anything and everything you can, even non sports like the WNBA.

As far as baseball ties go Dodgerboy, why don't you email your own guy and ask him yourself.

I took the liberty of doing your own research again. You'll like this http://sheabaseball1964.mlblogs.com/darryls_dugout_view/spring_training/index.html
It's straight from one of your Dodger web sites even. In case you can't read all the way to the end here is all you need to know.
"Tie games will resume prior to the next scheduled game between the teams, in the visitors' park if no more games are scheduled at the same site. If no more games are scheduled between the teams, the tie would stand unless an outcome would decide a playoff spot -- in which case the game would be replayed in its entirety".

And here is a look at the 2007 MLB cactus league standings.
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=azcentral&page=mlb/stand/cactus-stand.htm
What's that third column??

It's been fun, so I'll end this with one word of advice DodgerBlue
google

 

[The Sponge]

Dodgerboy? Wally? Why all the hostilities? Can't we all just win them all?

YYz he still owes you 2 bucks :142smilie U prolly ruin this guys whole week making him give you the eight. He will get the eight back. These guys never forget these type of things. I had a buddy who got involved into buying a lot of stuff with one of those no interest for two years gimmicks. I told him you know Dan you have to pay this in the 24 months or they get you for all the back interest. He says i know. 23 months later he is knocking on my door to bail him out. I gave him a grand. He was paying me 5 dollars here, five there :142smilie finally he vanished because he didn't want to pay me and then OD. To think i could have banged his old lady once but being a nice guy i turned it down because he was my friend made it even more painful. The broad is now a multi millionaire which is even more painful. what the heck was I thinking?

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

Sorry again, but the bet wasn't football. It was "Vegas Rules" the NFL was just an example to use. Something easy for you guys to understand.
As far as Vegas rules go you can bet on a plethora of sports, not just the NFL. And I know damn well you degenerates are laying money on anything and everything you can, even non sports like the WNBA.

As far as baseball ties go Dodgerboy, why don't you email your own guy and ask him yourself.

I took the liberty of doing your own research again. You'll like this http://sheabaseball1964.mlblogs.com/darryls_dugout_view/spring_training/index.html
It's straight from one of your Dodger web sites even. In case you can't read all the way to the end here is all you need to know.
"Tie games will resume prior to the next scheduled game between the teams, in the visitors' park if no more games are scheduled at the same site. If no more games are scheduled between the teams, the tie would stand unless an outcome would decide a playoff spot -- in which case the game would be replayed in its entirety".

And here is a look at the 2007 MLB cactus league standings.
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=azcentral&page=mlb/stand/cactus-stand.htm
What's that third column??

It's been fun, so I'll end this with one word of advice DodgerBlue
google

hey chithead

cactus rules is preseason

whatever man...no hard feelings

if i ever saw you i would rip your throat off, shit down your neck, and fck your wife and then send her back to the zoo.


gl bro

 

[The Judge]

Sorry again, but the bet wasn't football. It was "Vegas Rules" the NFL was just an example to use. Something easy for you guys to understand.

Sorry Shirley but the question posed to this forum was indeed regarding NFL football.

When betting on OVER/UNDER win totals in the NFL (or any sport for that matter) do ties count as half wins?

The answer to this question is "NO" as you have proven yourself through your exhaustive research. Pay the freaking bet and welcome to Mad Jack's . . . . I guess.