Robert Griffin III benched...
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You forgot to add that they lost by 22 points and most of those numbers he got were in garbage time. Johny Manziel scored a TD yesterday too :0corn
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92 of the 392 came in 4th quarter..all 3 TD's came in the first 3 quarters
is McCoy all world..hell no..
but he's damn sure better than what was squatting behind center looking like a duck out of water
Watched Manziel too...he will get busted up too..find the video of the face plant he took yesterday..
will he have some success..I expect so...but sooner or later it's crunch..
their daddy had 29{rushing and passing} TD's in 35 games...16 teams told Timmy is wasn't good enough to be 3rd string.
AGAIN....ya gotta read D's....ya gotta be able to throw the entire tree...and YA GOTTA have a clue about the solid performance of the 3 and 5 step drop..
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For the past 2 Christmas my wife and children got me a RG3 autographed football & mini helmet as gifts....Whatta waste of good hard earned $$$$.
That really has me pissed....the guy is MR Glass....oh so fragile . On both of his big injuries
No other player made impact with him.
Earlier this season he broke his ankle running out of bounds.
He tore his acl/mcl when the
Ball snapped over his head vs Seattle .....Mr Glass....
I'm pissed that this freaking bum robbed my skins of 2 1st rd draft picks and 1 2nd rd pick
This bum set the redskins back 5yrs easily.
Being a Redskins fan sucks.
I'm just about ready to start supporting the Ravens.
HTTR
That really has me pissed....the guy is MR Glass....oh so fragile . On both of his big injuries
No other player made impact with him.
Earlier this season he broke his ankle running out of bounds.
He tore his acl/mcl when the
Ball snapped over his head vs Seattle .....Mr Glass....
I'm pissed that this freaking bum robbed my skins of 2 1st rd draft picks and 1 2nd rd pick
This bum set the redskins back 5yrs easily.
Being a Redskins fan sucks.
I'm just about ready to start supporting the Ravens.
HTTR
I said when the draft was coming around and the Luck/Griffin debate was going on here that this guy was overrated. I could be wrong and he may be successful but it won't be from running the football.
Having watched football for over 30+ years I have yet to see a QB who runs a ton and last in this league. They are a dime a dozen coming out of college and there are way more failures then success. Not saying you can't scramble but you have to be smart about it, many do it and do it very well. You cannot take the hits that a lot of these running QB's out of college take. I can count the many who's careers have been cut short from vicious hits running the ball. Those that adapt can succeed and succeed very well. Moon, Mcnair etc. McNair still got destroyed from a vicious hit that nearly killed him.
College is one thing when your playing to get some glory, bang a cheerleader or screw the deans daughter. The NFL is a whole different monster. You have 260lbs linebackers who can outrun most college receivers and they are playing for Mansions, luxury, models, endorsements, huge contracts and their lively hood. The average lifespan in the NFL is very short. The NFL can say what they want but most defensive players are out to inflict pain and usually it is maximum pain. Throw a QB running downfield who is willing to take a shot they are going to destroy them one way or another. They see a huge bullseye and they are taught to drive through it with as much force as possible.
As said by many you have to read defenses, audible and see nearly everything around the field and you have to have a great offensive coordinator to mentor you along. A franchise QB comes along very rarely. You look at all the QB's who have lasted more than 5 seasons in a row without being benched or traded and you will be lucky to count to ten in the last 5 years. I am sure it is more, but I bet there are a lot more who have been rotated in and out.
I wish him the best but if he is going to succeed he needs to become a pocket passer and release the ball a lot sooner to avoid the hits. There is always another down when you throw it away. Scramble around long enough or take off running down field and you will end up on a stretcher. I am sure after an injury that memory stays around for along time. Most who have a major knee injury loose something and they come back not trusting their body it seems.
I think Washington is just one horrible franchise now. Dan Snyder is one of the biggest tools around who knows nothing about a team except to throw money around like he's dropping 100's in a strip club. They sold their sole to get this kid and now they have benched him for what purpose I have no idea. Let him develop and learn, this year is a wash and if they let him go they start over again. Make sense to me i guess from the skins perspective.
Now if this Johnny Football guy is gonna be his cocky self one to many times i would imagine and it will only take him thinking one time that he is invincible running the football before he is slaughtered all over the field. Respect the game don't make a mockery of it. I am sure some defender is hoping he takes the field so they can knock his ass out. I can see this coming. One time he will celebrate with his lil ole $$$ sign on the road and then someone is gonna take a shot.
One thing the average fan does is discredit the greatness of others who are successful and many measure success by SB wins which is somewhat ridiculous. By this standard Dan Marino and Fran Tarkenton sucked. We should appreciate the greatness we see today from Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Raperburger and even Flacco. These type of QB's are a rarity and they are what many teams take years and many years to find if they ever find one. These QB's command the game and are tacticians at finding weaknesses within the play clock. Pretty amazing to me but they are a rarity.
Anyway GL to RG 3 he is gonna need it. Mentally and physically.
GL TO ALL!!
Having watched football for over 30+ years I have yet to see a QB who runs a ton and last in this league. They are a dime a dozen coming out of college and there are way more failures then success. Not saying you can't scramble but you have to be smart about it, many do it and do it very well. You cannot take the hits that a lot of these running QB's out of college take. I can count the many who's careers have been cut short from vicious hits running the ball. Those that adapt can succeed and succeed very well. Moon, Mcnair etc. McNair still got destroyed from a vicious hit that nearly killed him.
College is one thing when your playing to get some glory, bang a cheerleader or screw the deans daughter. The NFL is a whole different monster. You have 260lbs linebackers who can outrun most college receivers and they are playing for Mansions, luxury, models, endorsements, huge contracts and their lively hood. The average lifespan in the NFL is very short. The NFL can say what they want but most defensive players are out to inflict pain and usually it is maximum pain. Throw a QB running downfield who is willing to take a shot they are going to destroy them one way or another. They see a huge bullseye and they are taught to drive through it with as much force as possible.
As said by many you have to read defenses, audible and see nearly everything around the field and you have to have a great offensive coordinator to mentor you along. A franchise QB comes along very rarely. You look at all the QB's who have lasted more than 5 seasons in a row without being benched or traded and you will be lucky to count to ten in the last 5 years. I am sure it is more, but I bet there are a lot more who have been rotated in and out.
I wish him the best but if he is going to succeed he needs to become a pocket passer and release the ball a lot sooner to avoid the hits. There is always another down when you throw it away. Scramble around long enough or take off running down field and you will end up on a stretcher. I am sure after an injury that memory stays around for along time. Most who have a major knee injury loose something and they come back not trusting their body it seems.
I think Washington is just one horrible franchise now. Dan Snyder is one of the biggest tools around who knows nothing about a team except to throw money around like he's dropping 100's in a strip club. They sold their sole to get this kid and now they have benched him for what purpose I have no idea. Let him develop and learn, this year is a wash and if they let him go they start over again. Make sense to me i guess from the skins perspective.
Now if this Johnny Football guy is gonna be his cocky self one to many times i would imagine and it will only take him thinking one time that he is invincible running the football before he is slaughtered all over the field. Respect the game don't make a mockery of it. I am sure some defender is hoping he takes the field so they can knock his ass out. I can see this coming. One time he will celebrate with his lil ole $$$ sign on the road and then someone is gonna take a shot.
One thing the average fan does is discredit the greatness of others who are successful and many measure success by SB wins which is somewhat ridiculous. By this standard Dan Marino and Fran Tarkenton sucked. We should appreciate the greatness we see today from Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Raperburger and even Flacco. These type of QB's are a rarity and they are what many teams take years and many years to find if they ever find one. These QB's command the game and are tacticians at finding weaknesses within the play clock. Pretty amazing to me but they are a rarity.
Anyway GL to RG 3 he is gonna need it. Mentally and physically.
GL TO ALL!!
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Another thing is everyone is quick to blame a QB for the losses etc, or when they fail out of college. There is a lot more to it then just a QB. It is a team sport and it starts in the front office. You have to have some great football minds there to succeed. The core of your team is going to be compromised of the mid to late round pics. Finding those gems is the difference between success and failure. Finding a franchise QB is like finding a needle in a haystack when you break it down.
To put in to perspective just how difficult it is to find a franchise QB do a little quiz of all the teams and ask who was their last true franchise QB? I am not going to look it up but I will guess with some of the teams just to show how rare they truly are. My definition is 6 + years or more with the same franchise behind the center w/success.
Last franchise QB for some teams
Cleve - Kosar How many 1st round QB's drafted since Kosar?
Raiders - Stabler
Niners - Young
Houston - Moon
Washington - I could argue Theismann
Seattle - Zorn ....could change with Wilson
Minn - Tarkenton???
You have 20+ years on some of these teams.
That is just an example. Keep running the teams and go back and look at what is defined as a franchise QB and you will see the huge gaps.
Then there is Tampa Bay, who in my mind has never had a franchise QB. Think about that. They have been in the league how long and never had a franchise QB.
What is even rarer is to have them back to back.
AKA - Colts (Manning/Luck), Packers (Favre/Rodgers) just a small and I mean a very small sample.
When you break it all down the failure rate is astounding compared to the success.
Just something to chew on.
Or the good ole argument of the QB lost the game because of a turnover. Turnovers happen. However what gets lost in the shuffle is did that defense limit points off of turnovers? Don't have stats but I would assume that the winning teams in this league have a D that limits the points off of turnovers
Football is a team game for a reason. it is not just the players executing the plays that matters most, it is the football minds you have behind the scenes that make it succeed.
To put in to perspective just how difficult it is to find a franchise QB do a little quiz of all the teams and ask who was their last true franchise QB? I am not going to look it up but I will guess with some of the teams just to show how rare they truly are. My definition is 6 + years or more with the same franchise behind the center w/success.
Last franchise QB for some teams
Cleve - Kosar How many 1st round QB's drafted since Kosar?
Raiders - Stabler
Niners - Young
Houston - Moon
Washington - I could argue Theismann
Seattle - Zorn ....could change with Wilson
Minn - Tarkenton???
You have 20+ years on some of these teams.
That is just an example. Keep running the teams and go back and look at what is defined as a franchise QB and you will see the huge gaps.
Then there is Tampa Bay, who in my mind has never had a franchise QB. Think about that. They have been in the league how long and never had a franchise QB.
What is even rarer is to have them back to back.
AKA - Colts (Manning/Luck), Packers (Favre/Rodgers) just a small and I mean a very small sample.
When you break it all down the failure rate is astounding compared to the success.
Just something to chew on.
Or the good ole argument of the QB lost the game because of a turnover. Turnovers happen. However what gets lost in the shuffle is did that defense limit points off of turnovers? Don't have stats but I would assume that the winning teams in this league have a D that limits the points off of turnovers
Football is a team game for a reason. it is not just the players executing the plays that matters most, it is the football minds you have behind the scenes that make it succeed.
EZ I am sure i missed some as i did not do a lot of research just going off of memory. The success and sample rate is very small though. I could argue that Vick was not a success. He took a lot of hits and became injury prone as well the more he ran down the field. Now he is just a washed up backup who seems to care less about the opportunity given and more about the paycheck.
Back to Griffin 3 I still cannot understand the point of benching him. Your season is over and he has only played in 5 games this year. How did everyone calling for Cousins to start work out for them? McCoy will be the same in the end i would imagine. Let RG3 develop his skills on the field not holding a clip board. 33 games out of college does not define failure IMO. There may be a locker room issue bigger than what has been stated by the talking media heads. It is also quit obvious that him and the coach are not in unison as well.
Some strange stuff for sure. I will say this though I watched a lot of the game this weekend and when they panned over to the sidelines RG3 was very active and involved with his teammates and McCoy. That says a lot about his demeanor. Now if that was Cam Newton I don't think you would see the same.
It will be interesting to see what the future holds for him. If they release him or trade him and he becomes a success you could argue Washington made one of the most stupid decisions in their franchise history. Time will tell.
Back to Griffin 3 I still cannot understand the point of benching him. Your season is over and he has only played in 5 games this year. How did everyone calling for Cousins to start work out for them? McCoy will be the same in the end i would imagine. Let RG3 develop his skills on the field not holding a clip board. 33 games out of college does not define failure IMO. There may be a locker room issue bigger than what has been stated by the talking media heads. It is also quit obvious that him and the coach are not in unison as well.
Some strange stuff for sure. I will say this though I watched a lot of the game this weekend and when they panned over to the sidelines RG3 was very active and involved with his teammates and McCoy. That says a lot about his demeanor. Now if that was Cam Newton I don't think you would see the same.
It will be interesting to see what the future holds for him. If they release him or trade him and he becomes a success you could argue Washington made one of the most stupid decisions in their franchise history. Time will tell.
You hit the nail on the head in regards to RG3 and I wouldn't doubt it one bit if he is released or traded after the season, then where the F are they gonna go? Sanchez? Hoyer? A couple of the free agent Qbs after this year, big upgrade? Fire Gruden!
