Sarah Palin is named McCains VP

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I don't need to repeat the accolades Barack Obama has received on his acceptance speech the final evening of the Democratic National Convention in Denver. Suffice to say that neither those who love Obama's soaring oratory nor those hungry for hard, specific detail were disappointed. The climax of a highly successful convention with all the right kinds of drama and none of the wrong kind, Obama's speech shot him and running mate Joe Biden out of Denver on a rocket straight to the White House. Obama's choice of the tough, experienced senator from Delaware seems also to have been a home run: a ticket, not of making up for weakness as Republicans have suggested, but of combined strength.

John McCain, on the other hand, has made the choice of a vice-presidential running mate on the same basis he has made all of his political decisions in this campaign: pandering. In his choice of Alaska governor Sarah Palin, McCain is clearly pandering to woman Democrats who supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries and whom McCain hopes will now vote for him insead of Obama. Stupid right-wingers, without a doubt, will proclaim loudly that McCain "hit it out of the park" with this choice, and that Democrats had better be running scared. They will think what they like, of course (if what right-wingers do in their little heads can truly be called "thinking"), but a closer look at Palin reveals a choice that could hardly have been a more superficial one. Sarah Palin has scarcely half the experience as governor of Alaska that Barack Obama has in the US Senate, and before becoming governor less than two years ago was the mayor of a town with a population of around 8000. Before that she was a sportscaster.

As the running mate of a 72-year-old presidential candidate whose mental acuity seems to fade almost by the day, Sarah Palin is hardly prepared to step in and take over as president. With precious little experience even in state politics, Palin has no experience whatsoever in national politics, and no background in foreign affairs. Finding Republican women governors and senators with more experience than Palin would have been easy for McCain; finding one with less experience would been the difficult task. It is obvious that McCain chose Palin not on the basis of any qualification to serve as president on day two if necessary, but only because she is a woman.

This will all become apparent, of course, when Gov. Palin has to face Joe Biden in the vice-presidential debate scarcely a month from now - hardly enough time for her to make up for the vast knowledge gap between herself and her Democratic opponent. It will be a little sad to watch poor Sarah get disassembled by Biden (certainly far less satisfying to watch than McCain being taken apart by Obama), but it will be a reflection on McCain's judgment America needs to see.

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She *did* mention in her speech that her husband is a championship caliber snowmobiler. That's sumtin', at least. Not sure if it's cattle or hat, but it's pretty cool. :shrug:
 
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she`s a gamble to try and grab the disaffected hillary voters.....and the blue collar hard working types from ohio,michigan et al....

point guard and a hockey player...and an ex-sportscaster....lol

mccain spent years running against the grain....

looks like he did it again...


No, her views are very right-wing. She's completely anti-abortion, pro-drilling and anti-environment, anti-gay, etc...Basically, as far away from Hillary's beliefs as you can get. Add in everything Hippo said, it's all accurate. If he wanted to get some of the disaffected Hillary votes, he should have gone with a middle-of-the-road candidate - not the far right.
 

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No, her views are very right-wing. She's completely anti-abortion, pro-drilling and anti-environment, anti-gay, etc...Basically, as far away from Hillary's beliefs as you can get. Add in everything Hippo said, it's all accurate. If he wanted to get some of the disaffected Hillary votes, he should have gone with a middle-of-the-road candidate - not the far right.


Holy shit! You're not quite as vapid as I thought!
 

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Tulip, you might want to come back to reality. I am in too good a mood to rip the rest of your drivel, but Biden voted against the Iraq war? Where the hell do you get your information from?

"In 1998, Biden expressed support for the use of force against Iraq, and urged a sustained effort to "dethrone" Saddam Hussein over the long haul.[21] As chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 2002 he stated that Saddam Hussein was "a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security" and that United States has "no choice but to eliminate the threat".[22] After the Bush Administration rejected his effort to pass a resolution authorizing military action in Iraq only after the exhaustion of diplomatic efforts,[23] Biden argued that Saddam Hussein possesses chemical and biological weapons and is seeking nuclear weapons;[24] he subsequently voted in favor of authorizing the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Biden has since said that he believes it was a mistake to support the Iraq war because it has been mismanaged by the Bush Administration."

Thats what i said.
 

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I don't need to repeat the accolades Barack Obama has received on his acceptance speech the final evening of the Democratic National Convention in Denver. Suffice to say that neither those who love Obama's soaring oratory nor those hungry for hard, specific detail were disappointed. The climax of a highly successful convention with all the right kinds of drama and none of the wrong kind, Obama's speech shot him and running mate Joe Biden out of Denver on a rocket straight to the White House. Obama's choice of the tough, experienced senator from Delaware seems also to have been a home run: a ticket, not of making up for weakness as Republicans have suggested, but of combined strength.

John McCain, on the other hand, has made the choice of a vice-presidential running mate on the same basis he has made all of his political decisions in this campaign: pandering. In his choice of Alaska governor Sarah Palin, McCain is clearly pandering to woman Democrats who supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries and whom McCain hopes will now vote for him insead of Obama. Stupid right-wingers, without a doubt, will proclaim loudly that McCain "hit it out of the park" with this choice, and that Democrats had better be running scared. They will think what they like, of course (if what right-wingers do in their little heads can truly be called "thinking"), but a closer look at Palin reveals a choice that could hardly have been a more superficial one. Sarah Palin has scarcely half the experience as governor of Alaska that Barack Obama has in the US Senate, and before becoming governor less than two years ago was the mayor of a town with a population of around 8000. Before that she was a sportscaster.

As the running mate of a 72-year-old presidential candidate whose mental acuity seems to fade almost by the day, Sarah Palin is hardly prepared to step in and take over as president. With precious little experience even in state politics, Palin has no experience whatsoever in national politics, and no background in foreign affairs. Finding Republican women governors and senators with more experience than Palin would have been easy for McCain; finding one with less experience would been the difficult task. It is obvious that McCain chose Palin not on the basis of any qualification to serve as president on day two if necessary, but only because she is a woman.

This will all become apparent, of course, when Gov. Palin has to face Joe Biden in the vice-presidential debate scarcely a month from now - hardly enough time for her to make up for the vast knowledge gap between herself and her Democratic opponent. It will be a little sad to watch poor Sarah get disassembled by Biden (certainly far less satisfying to watch than McCain being taken apart by Obama), but it will be a reflection on McCain's judgment America needs to see.

Mark C. Eades
http://www.mceades.com


Wayne,

Is *this* the cattle that you speak of?

How about this experience issue? Kinda dissipates at this point, I suppose. :rolleyes:

I mean, I know you will do and say anything to defend anything these guys do, but you can't tell me with a straight face that you would be comfortable with her being a heart attack away from being President.

Please tell me you wouldn't.
 

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You're the vapid one, fool.

"Publically"...good one.

Ahhh, yes. I misspell a word every 143 posts and the vapid racist jumps all over it! I guess i'm just so hyped by this VP pick that i'm not reviewing my posts before I submit.

Good post before, though. I agree with you.
 

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my gut is that this was a real longshot choice...and could backfire...

but,mccain sure sucked the air out of the denver...

honestly,if they were to win,i`d be worried about mccain keeling over early in his term and her having to take the reins.... but,i`m even more worried about obama getting the reins on day one...

but,i want to hear her speak and get more info before throwing her under the bus...

Think so?

Barack Obama's acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention was seen by more than 38 million people.

Nielsen Media Research said more people watched Obama speak than watched the Olympics opening ceremony in Beijing, the final "American Idol" or the Academy Awards this year. Obama talked before a live audience of 80,000 people in Denver.

His TV audience nearly doubled the amount of people who watched John Kerry accept the Democratic nomination to run against President Bush four years ago. Kerry's speech was seen by just over 20 million people.

Obama's audience might be higher, since Nielsen didn't have an estimate for how many people watched Obama on PBS or C-SPAN Thursday night.

I heard her speak, it's like fingernails across a chalkboard, like a drill bit going into your skull.


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Wayne,

Is *this* the cattle that you speak of?

How about this experience issue? Kinda dissipates at this point, I suppose. :rolleyes:

I mean, I know you will do and say anything to defend anything these guys do, but you can't tell me with a straight face that you would be comfortable with her being a heart attack away from being President.

Please tell me you wouldn't.

He already admitted that he had to go back to the drawing board because of this selection. I am very *interested* to see how he rationalizes this. He gets very creative sometimes and this ....is definitely one of those times.
 

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Ahhh, yes. I misspell a word every 143 posts and the vapid racist jumps all over it! I guess i'm just so hyped by this VP pick that i'm not reviewing my posts before I submit.

Good post before, though. I agree with you.
Well, thanks, crabby-ass, vienna sausage boy.
 

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Think so?

Barack Obama's acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention was seen by more than 38 million people.

Nielsen Media Research said more people watched Obama speak than watched the Olympics opening ceremony in Beijing, the final "American Idol" or the Academy Awards this year. Obama talked before a live audience of 80,000 people in Denver.

His TV audience nearly doubled the amount of people who watched John Kerry accept the Democratic nomination to run against President Bush four years ago. Kerry's speech was seen by just over 20 million people.

Obama's audience might be higher, since Nielsen didn't have an estimate for how many people watched Obama on PBS or C-SPAN Thursday night.

I heard her speak, it's like fingernails across a chalkboard, like a drill bit going into your skull.


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did any troops die in this thread?.....did i miss that?

take a wrong turn at the madrassa,cretin?.....

barack obama would scrape you off the bottom of his shoe...
 

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No, I have no clue. If you want to take that tone with me, then be prepared because I am pretty stubborn and don't back down easily. Bring it, but please have some substance.

Do you really think that polar bears aren't losing their natural habitat, and that it won't further be invaded by drilling off the coasts? The polar bears will be protected. Do you know how the drilling is done?

And do you really think that the majority of people who are using aerial hunting in Alaska are all doing it for prevention of wolf population I certainly do.and none of them for pure sport? maybe a few... Would you rather see 100 wolves killed or 1500 moose killed? Don't you have compassion for the moose? Even if they are all doing it for population control, I don't believe that killing any living being in such a way it right. Is it right for them to be dragged down en masse by the wolves? I assure you the wolves deaths are much more humane than their prey. Perhaps we should do the same thing around the world to people, since we are overpopulated and food is scarce - just go in and shoot 'em up from the air. you and agent love to equate human life to animal life. Pathetic...

I'm sure she is on the ticket for a few main reasons:

1) She is a woman and they think somehow this will attract all the "undecided" Hillary voters. maybe...

2) She is young and will offset McCain's ancient self. possibly

3) She has a child with down syndrome, so now everyone can talk about how McCain was a prisoner and she is compassionate and pro-life. So their personal stories will make everyone slobber all over themselves.
She has a few more qualifications, but you're automatically not going to like her, so what does it matter?
 

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uniqely qualified in what way?....he`s about as qualified as palin,with less executive experience....

those are called platitudes,bryanz....he can say anything he wants...

and how do you determine what you just outlined is or isn`t liberal?...

vagueries...

i say lets hear the debates....biden appears to have a significant advantage...but,i think mccain may be better than bock sans a teleprompter..

only time will tell...

this is an historic election....

i think there will be more interest in this election,than possibly any election in history....

sooo intersting...and thats a good thing all around..
I don't think there is a list that we can go by to say who is or is not qualified to be pres...... this is a one of a kind job.....I think you have to be well versed and able to put the best people around you and able to decipher the info and make the right calls.... you don't have to be an expert on all things..... obviously intellect is a key factor.... The job requires an execitive, that can put a administration/team together. Maybe I'm wrong but Obama should be credited for the organization he put together from the bottom up ..... There has been big name senators & business men with many years of experience that have not done what Obama has.......... even if you compare the organization obama put together -vs- Mccains....... Obama raised more money durring the primaries than anyone & ran the best campaign........mccain at one point almost ran out of funding..........The clintons were the unbeatable machine according to all pundents going in.....even the great MITT romney couldn't figure out how to fund a successful presidential run ... . yet some wanted to call on him for ecomonic expertize as a vp ......... How does Obama with 0 experience, 0 name recognition going in; get to this point ????? Obama has been a leader his whole life, every stage....... This guy is a born leader.......this election is bigger than politics.... this is a movement not seen since JFK & REAGAN..... I think this case is closed ! I do agree, for guys like us, this is a blast to the end !!!!
 

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I don't think there is a list that we can go by to say who is or is not qualified to be pres...... this is a one of a kind job.....I think you have to be well versed and able to put the best people around you and able to decipher the info and make the right calls.... you don't have to be an expert on all things..... obviously intellect is a key factor.... The job requires an execitive, that can put a administration/team together. Maybe I'm wrong but Obama should be credited for the organization he put together from the bottom up ..... There has been big name senators & business men with many years of experience that have not done what Obama has.......... even if you compare the organization obama put together -vs- Mccains....... Obama raised more money durring the primaries than anyone & ran the best campaign........mccain at one point almost ran out of funding..........The clintons were the unbeatable machine according to all pundents going in.....even the great MITT romney couldn't figure out how to fund a successful presidential run ... . yet some wanted to call on him for ecomonic expertize as a vp ......... How does Obama with 0 experience, 0 name recognition going in; get to this point ????? Obama has been a leader his whole life, every stage....... This guy is a born leader.......this election is bigger than politics.... this is a movement not seen since JFK & REAGAN..... I think this case is closed ! I do agree, for guys like us, this is a blast to the end !!!!

you said in your own words,"uniquely qualified"...i didn`t make it up...

thats what i took issue with...
 

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Look SixFive - just because you are a big moose doesn't mean I have to have more compassion for the moose. Last I checked, wolves killing moose was part of the NATURAL chain of events in the world. People flying in planes and shooting wolves is not.

If you really think that us building huge structures in the middle of polar bear habitat doesn't have any effect on them, you are wrong. But then again, you don't believe in global warming, because you had a few cold days down in that there south where ya be, so it couldn't possibly be real.

I am not equating animal life to human life, but I have compassion for any life that cannot protect itself. You, as a good Bible-loving man, should know that in Genesis Adam and Eve (and thus all of us) were put here as CARETAKERS of the earth and animals, not as murderers. Don't even get me started on human rights abuse - I don't understand how you can be such a strong supporter of all these republicans, considering all the atrocities that have happened in the last 8 years alone.

What's the point - it is never-ending with you, you will never look at anything with a critical open mind.
 
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