Guys the reason this thread is longer than a novel is that SEC folks take their football seriously! Now I am from Wisconsin, and have lived in Miami, Utah, Atlantic City, and southern cal. I have seen football fans and been to games of every conference, hell I am from Green Bay! I know what a football fan looks like. There is nowhere, where football is more important than the south east, LSU, Bama, Auburn, Florida, Tenn. SEC football fans absolutley live for football season! When you try to argue that with a SEC fan its like argiung with your wife, even though you might me right, you're damm wrong. The greatest experience of my entire life was running on the field after LSU's shocking 28-21 win over Florida in 1997. They were the defending national champs and had a ton of streaks on the line when they came to death valley. That game literally changed my life and the way I view the culture of college football, and I am from Green Bay and have gone to hundreds of games. SEC football games are the most fun I have had, outside the bedroom. If you are trying to discount the SEC because of our bowl record you are foolish, look at Notre Dames bowl record, UTEP probably has a better bowl record? Does that mean Notre Dame is lousy, absolutley not. The sec is top to bottom strong and our in conference games beat us up a lot more than most conferences. Defense Exibit A, look at Texas last year who really tested them in conference? The big 12 was poop absolute poop last year, While LSU had to face a very good UGA team Texas is piss pounding Colorado, (who is thinking about the placekicker chic they use to bang and not playing football). USC is not even playing a conference championship. Its a bunch of sh -t. The truth is the SEC beats each other up all season then plays a tough championship game, and then we have to defend ourselves because our bowl record was not stellar 1 year.