The debates couldn't come any time soon. Here is a ctime when the dems have a very legit chance of taking the whitehouse and the two leading candidates are an African American and a Woman. Neither one has a shot in hell because certain groups just because one is black and the other is a woman, will not vote for them. Someone has to step it up. Hopefully in my opinion Richardson or Biden does this but right now i wouldn't mind at all if Gore stepped in this thing. He was against this charade of a war and has some foresight unlike anyone on both sides. The right can show their ignorance all they want but this fellow in fact was influential regarding the internet as well as global warming. Sure the neocon like to tease Gore about his thoughts on the internet because its what they can have their monkies believe. The monkies will run with it but in fact out of all the politicians no one was more involved with the net.
I think Obama would make a very good president but it just isn't happening. If a class act like Harold Ford couldn't win in the South Obama won't either. They rather have guys like Bill Frist. A piece of shit of a human being but that seems to be there taste.
Don't u like Edwards ???
I'm using your post to make a point. I understand what you are saying but I think its a defeatist attitude, and we have to start somewhere. I think people have to start voting their conscious, and let the chips fall where they fall. If a person is a democrat and won't vote for a candidate because they are black or a women, why are they a democrat. I think everyone who votes has to stop voting for the person they think can win ,but the person they think is the best for the job. This is a tough subject because not enough of us vote. It happens in both parties, the primaries are voted in by a few and 1/2 of the potential voters would have not picked these people, so they go back into their caves and the election is decided by the far left and right. We need new public debates about new blood. I don't think Gore or Biden give the Democrats a better chance than Clinton. There are more women voters then men. I wouldn't vote for her, I didn't vote for Bill, but she has a chance. When will America wake up and realize that recycling the same kind of politicians on both sides , gives us the same results. I think someone like Obma & Giuliani can send our country in a different direction. We need drastic change. What are we afraid of ? We can't do any worse. Can a black or a women be president ? No. Not with the numbers that turn out and vote. Yes. It could happen, if everyone used their right. The right for blacks and women to vote in this country was not given. People fought and died for that right , not on some battle field in a far away place, but right here in the streets of America. White people in America are the silent dumb majority. More than 1/2 of them go unheard on election day. I think the debate has to go from, why someone can't be elected to how do we get them elected. We have Fellow Americans laying it on the line every day on foreign soil, but we can't get off our asses here at home. We need to starts calling the people in our circles out.
there u go again (Sponge) with your Southern bullcrap. You're the one on record in this forum who has generalized all blacks into a non-tipping race, so who is the real bigot here who would never vote for a black? You don't know chit about the South, and I doubt u ever will.
quit generalizing the "south", and I'll quit bringing up your bigotry.
I will as soon as they start voting for their best interest. They give us a guy like Bill Frist who has fought long and hard to keep americans from having universal health care because it benefits his family business. He has blocked everything and it wasnt for the good of the country. When they keep giving the country these type of gems, i will stop speaking out. Horald Ford is one of the classiest politicians i have ever seen and i dont think he recieved 40 percent. He even tried to cater to you gun and abortion people.
quit generalizing the "south", and I'll quit bringing up your bigotry.
I will as soon as they start voting for their best interest. They give us a guy like Bill Frist who has fought long and hard to keep americans from having universal health care because it benefits his family business. He has blocked everything and it wasnt for the good of the country. When they keep giving the country these type of gems, i will stop speaking out. Horald Ford is one of the classiest politicians i have ever seen and i dont think he recieved 40 percent. He even tried to cater to you gun and abortion people.
You know what it is with these people? They all have no shame. Frist should have been thrown out of office in disgrace for his stand in the Terri Schiavo case. Examining her on video and over riding all the doctors that actualley saw her in person. He gets all the right wing Blogs in an uproar. When it is proven he wrong neither he or his followers show one ounce of shame.
The same goes for all of them. McCain and Kerry claiming they didn't know about Building 18. And McCain claiming to be a friend of the Vets. He should resign in disgrace also.
Not to mention the hundreds of others involved in that mess. To claim they didn't know is a joke.
We are in need of a complete overhaul. And throw all of these lying thieves out.
You know what it is with these people? They all have no shame. Frist should have been thrown out of office in disgrace for his stand in the Terri Schiavo case. Examining her on video and over riding all the doctors that actualley saw her in person. He gets all the right wing Blogs in an uproar. When it is proven he wrong neither he or his followers show one ounce of shame.
The same goes for all of them. McCain and Kerry claiming they didn't know about Building 18. And McCain claiming to be a friend of the Vets. He should resign in disgrace also.
Not to mention the hundreds of others involved in that mess. To claim they didn't know is a joke.
We are in need of a complete overhaul. And throw all of these lying thieves out.
Stevie i asked you this why do you and i say throw out all of these thieves but the right just say's throw out the left's theives? You just trashed Kerry and you are right but you will never see a neocon trash the righty. You see this Pelosi thing with putting this guy on homeland security? Makes me sick. When you figure out how to create this overhaul i will be on board with you. Im sick of voting for the lessor of two evils.
Stevie i asked you this why do you and i say throw out all of these thieves but the right just say's throw out the left's theives? You just trashed Kerry and you are right but you will never see a neocon trash the righty. You see this Pelosi thing with putting this guy on homeland security? Makes me sick. When you figure out how to create this overhaul i will be on board with you. Im sick of voting for the lessor of two evils.
Sponge, our problem is mainly with the Right. A lot of these poor slobs have been brainwashed by the likes of Fox News and Neocon Radio that they are voting for and supporting Conservatives. How else do you explain a guy like Frist and how he stays in power after that horrible Schiavo case. And Bush gets to lie us into war. They will forgive these two Neocon's because they think they are Conservatives. But let a Dem get a BJ and they want to tar and feather the guy.
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