Steelers trap game against Arizona

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Cardinals are off their bye week and Steelers have the Pats and Ravens on deck in back to back games, both games at home, one a primetime Sunday night game. Yet this line is only 3.5 for the Steelers. Give me AZ all day plus the points and a bit on the ML. Trap game in my eyes.

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long trip out west.

steelers struggled to beat jacksonville.

Zona lotta rest.

steelers just arent as good anymore...defense is much slower...


not sure if the line is fishy, or just the number its supposed to be...
 

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prolly gonna stay away, but GL to ya either way bro...


i am gonna start beanie wells in fantasy most likely so hopefully its a high scoring affair!!!
 

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long trip out west.

steelers struggled to beat jacksonville.

Zona lotta rest.

steelers just arent as good anymore...defense is much slower...


not sure if the line is fishy, or just the number its supposed to be...

:iagree: :iagree:

i already pounded AZ
 

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long trip out west.

steelers struggled to beat jacksonville.

Zona lotta rest.

steelers just arent as good anymore...defense is much slower...


not sure if the line is fishy, or just the number its supposed to be...

Agreed on all accounts. Plus coming off the bye week at home surely helps. Like you said, leaving the fall weather in Pitt to the 98 degree weather in AZ, nice little vacation for the Steelers lol.
 

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I thought the same thing when looking at the schedule last week. Steelers due for letdown and you know what theyn say about teams that lose the Superbowl.:0008
 

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Ill be the first to disagree with all of you i guess lol.

Teams off bye week last week were 1-4 with the only team winning was Baltimore. I think momentum plays a huge part in the bye week theory and Arizona just got thumped by Minnesota 34-10 so there couldnt have been good feelings that off week.

On the other side the Steelers ride a two game winning streak into the game even though it was a lethargic win last week after jumping out 17-0 and going thru the motions in the second half. All the people saying they are getting slower must not realize they have still rank as the 6th best defense in the NFL right now and have been banged up. They're coming off impressive outings against Tenn and Jax and seem to be improving every week.

This Steeler team is a veteran group and know they are going to Arizona to play a football game and not a vacation. They wont even get into Arizona until friday so if you consider one day a vacation then so be it. Last but not least they have New England and Baltimore at Heinz the following two weeks so they know this is a must win game. I just dont see a letdown here.

Yes Im a steeler fan but I also dont gamble with my heart. I just feel this is a game they come out on all cylinders against a bad Zona team that still hasnt seemed to figure out their QB problems.

Good Luck with whatever way you go in this game.
 

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Nice, glad we are on the same page! The money is pouring in on Pitt, yet the line drops. Fishy to me! GL to us!

The line opened at 3.5 at 80% of the books and 4 at the others and remains at 3.5 today so it isnt dropping it is staying steady. It is actually still 4 at some spots.
 

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With all due respect cardinals are one of the worst teams in football,look at who they have played and specially who they have lost to and now you wanna bet against the steelers,makes no sense :shrug: A half motivated steeler team can beat this team by a TD....gl but steelers are gonna be one of my strongest picks this week 28-17
 

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Ill be the first to disagree with all of you i guess lol.

Teams off bye week last week were 1-4 with the only team winning was Baltimore. I think momentum plays a huge part in the bye week theory and Arizona just got thumped by Minnesota 34-10 so there couldnt have been good feelings that off week.

On the other side the Steelers ride a two game winning streak into the game even though it was a lethargic win last week after jumping out 17-0 and going thru the motions in the second half. All the people saying they are getting slower must not realize they have still rank as the 6th best defense in the NFL right now and have been banged up. They're coming off impressive outings against Tenn and Jax and seem to be improving every week.

This Steeler team is a veteran group and know they are going to Arizona to play a football game and not a vacation. They wont even get into Arizona until friday so if you consider one day a vacation then so be it. Last but not least they have New England and Baltimore at Heinz the following two weeks so they know this is a must win game. I just dont see a letdown here.

Yes Im a steeler fan but I also dont gamble with my heart. I just feel this is a game they come out on all cylinders against a bad Zona team that still hasnt seemed to figure out their QB problems.

Good Luck with whatever way you go in this game.

Thanks for the discussion! Getting a Steelers perspective always helps too.

I know many pro athletes in all sports, I covered it for 14 years and I can tell you they will all tell you they get caught looking ahead in different spots during the season. Veteran teams will tell you they pace themselves over the course of the regular season, saving themselves for big games or rivalry games. They tell you this sort of thing off the record many times during the regular season grind.

I truly believe the line is low due to the spot the Steelers are in. The line did open at 4 at many places and 76% on the consensus sites are on Pitt. If they books really thought they needed to set the line higher to get Pitt money without getting hosed they would have. This line is set low for a reason in my opinion.

As for teams off their bye weeks, it varies week to week. I follow this trend religiously but you just cant get a handle on it, in both the NFL and CFB. It changes constantly so I wont use that angle. I do feel that a team like AZ needed the bye week due to their QB not having the time he needed to get familiar with the Cards offense. Extra time like this should help Kolb tremendously in my eyes.

Over the years, the Cards play so tough at home, that is another angle to watch for this team. When they were horrible.....down and out 10 years ago they always brought it hard at home, no matter who the opponent. Just my 2 cents.

I appreciate the Steelers viewpoint, thanks for posting. I do agree with you that the Cards aren't anything to sniff at and are off a bad loss in Minnny but that is why they play the games and we all know how when you least expect a team to win the in the NFL, they do the exact opposite.

Maybe the Steelers win by 1 and then we are all happy. GL
 

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With all due respect cardinals are one of the worst teams in football,look at who they have played and specially who they have lost to and now you wanna bet against the steelers,makes no sense :shrug: A half motivated steeler team can beat this team by a TD....gl but steelers are gonna be one of my strongest picks this week 28-17

GL this week. I guess we agree to disagree, all good. That is what is gambling is all about. Win some and lose some.
 

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With all due respect cardinals are one of the worst teams in football,look at who they have played and specially who they have lost to and now you wanna bet against the steelers,makes no sense :shrug: A half motivated steeler team can beat this team by a TD....gl but steelers are gonna be one of my strongest picks this week 28-17

Taking a look at their respective schedules, the Cards lost on the road to Seattle and Washington, both tough places to play by a combined 4 pts. Yes, they were pounded by Minny. They beat Carolina at home and got hosed by a horrible call in the NYG game in AZ. By all accounts when you listen to league officials, the NFL messed up on that NYG game. For some reason this Cards team plays up 5 notches at home, not just up a notch at home.

Steelers got pounded by Balt. then in their home opener took our their frustrations on Seattle. But beating the Titans and Jags is nothing to write home about. They lost on the road twice already, I could see that being 3 losses in a row on the road by Sunday evening. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for discussing the game in this thread. GL
 

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Taking a look at their respective schedules, the Cards lost on the road to Seattle and Washington, both tough places to play by a combined 4 pts. Yes, they were pounded by Minny. They beat Carolina at home and got hosed by a horrible call in the NYG game in AZ. By all accounts when you listen to league officials, the NFL messed up on that NYG game. For some reason this Cards team plays up 5 notches at home, not just up a notch at home.

Steelers got pounded by Balt. then in their home opener took our their frustrations on Seattle. But beating the Titans and Jags is nothing to write home about. They lost on the road twice already, I could see that being 3 losses in a row on the road by Sunday evening. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for discussing the game in this thread. GL

Bet what u feel like boss.....Like i always say on here don't let any of us make u change ur mind about ur play,always bet what u feel is gonna win. No one here knows better than the other guy,all these systems and 90% publics,line watchers are full of shit :lol: If you feel strong about a play go for it,one of us will be a happy camper come sunday evening thats for sure....cheers brotha :toast:
 
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Bet what u feel like boss.....Like i always say on here don't let any of us make u change ur mind about ur play,always bet what u feel is gonna win. No one here knows better than the other guy,all these systems and 90% publics,line watchers are full of shit :lol: If you feel strong about a play go for it,one of us will be a happy camper come sunday evening thats for sure....cheers brotha :toast:

Agreed my friend! Definitely with you on that take. GL to both us. :toast:
 

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Too many ifs/////too many good cappers on here debating and making valid points on both sides.....if Kolb had shown anything this year and the defense wasnt absolutely wretched, I would LOVE Arizona in this spot, they beat Steelers 21-14 here in 2007 and as bad as Arizona and Seattle for that matter have been most of last decade, both teams dp always bring it at home, and Whisenhunt knows the Steelers personnel very well........this game is just too tough to bet or pick IMO, but I wish u all good luck who are playing it
 
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Pitt will likely lack focus and is entering a snake pit this weekend IMO. Expecting kolb to look more comfortable and for increased chemistry between he and fitz. I like the additional prep for a motivated team with their collective back against the wall. The line drop pleases me. No brainer from where I'm standing.

Quality thread guys.
 
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