Stephen A Smith crushes Jay Cutler

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I'm not talking about any of the goofs you mentioned. If you wanna lump Cutler in with Stafford and Russell Wilson, go ahead. None of those three are elite NFL QBs.
 

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so how come he sucks?
Really? He sucks huh? How so? By what measure? Does Stafford suck? Matt Ryan, Dalton, Romo? Go ahead smurph give me the lowdown on why he specifically sucks. I saw him go out for one game this season and we had less than 150 yards of offense without him. So go ahead and tell me how without his 2 starting offensive tackles, top 3 wide receivers and a lazy piece of shit for a tight end, did he win last week?

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Really? He sucks huh? How so? By what measure? Does Stafford suck? Matt Ryan, Dalton, Romo? Go ahead smurph give me the lowdown on why he specifically sucks. I saw him go out for one game this season and we had less than 150 yards of offense without him. So go ahead and tell me how without his 2 starting offensive tackles, top 3 wide receivers and a lazy piece of shit for a tight end, did he win last week?

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just watch him, he sucks

trying to blame everything on a TE :rolleyes:
 

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You said he had no heart, what exact experiences and tells that you've personally seen from him that you feel gave you license to make that statement?
Also, I didn't lump him in with anyone at all. I asked questions about those players on their own merits that's it.

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just watch him, he sucks

trying to blame everything on a TE :rolleyes:
No smurph, you don't get to do that here brother. I do watch him and he doesn't suck at all. Makes some incredible throws and always plays to win. I said the tight end is lazy and he is.

The fact is you're without any real fact to back up your claim so you're trying to diminish and bastardize mine.

How about I kindly ask you not to do that, even though it is funny I'll give you that, but it's not a cogent response.

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I'm not a fan of Smith because I feel like he's going to burst into a Broadway musical everytime I hear him. I can't stand that yelling tired schtick.

He is correct on Cutler though. Cutler was a quitter at vandy, and he's a quitter in Chicago. He blames everybody but himself for failure, and he sucks. Chicago should be winning every year instead of the laughing stock they are, and much of that can be blamed squarely on Cutler. Cutler also owns pit bulls, so screw him doubly.
 

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Cutler has a 21-52 record as a starter when his team allows more than 20 points

He also has a pathetic record vs winning teams. Thru 2012, .333 winning percentage at 19-38

He has played in the playoffs once, I believe

The bears offense was vastly improved under the backup when he went down a couple of years ago

Given his wealth of physical attributes, he must suck upstairs in order to have produced so little in his career
 

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QB ranking chart

QB ranking chart

The most recent one I saw was ridiculously bad so let's go with this:

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My opinions:

Romo is top 5, Luck (inexperience) should not be that high on the list and neither should Brees (slowdown). The same argument could be made for Manning as for Brees.

Rivers should not be near top 10, I consider him sub-par.

Flacco, Tannehill, Bradford, Kaepernick all ranked too high. Cutler and Palmer should be higher. Foles and Smith should be a bit higher.

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He didn't yell. He made good points. I largely agree with his take. When has cutler ever won ?
 

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"Stephen A.....do you agree with Martz on Cutler?"

"Of course I don't. Jay Cutler should be arrested for theft"

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Lol.....Hyperbolic? Sure, but his point is well taken

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I'm sorry man, but that isn't good journalism. It just isn't. It's slanderous and he's just being a dick because nobody can whip his ass from a 1000 miles away.

You like it because it bothers me and that's fine, doesn't make it true however. I think it makes Smith look like a pussy.

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I'm sorry man, but that isn't good journalism. It just isn't. It's slanderous and he's just being a dick because nobody can whip his ass from a 1000 miles away.

You like it because it bothers me and that's fine, doesn't make it true however. I think it makes Smith look like a pussy.

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Please explain how that is bad journalism? For the record, I think TV talk show personalities and radio hosts are entertainers, not journalists. Many, Smith included, are also journalists, but they are not wearing journalistic hats while they are performing.
 

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I'm sorry man, but that isn't good journalism. It just isn't. It's slanderous and he's just being a dick because nobody can whip his ass from a 1000 miles away.

You like it because it bothers me and that's fine, doesn't make it true however. I think it makes Smith look like a pussy.

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When I posted the video yesterday I didn't give one thought of you or that it would bother you like it has. It was not posted because you're a Cutler fan. It had nothing to do with you at all. Nope.

Now, the 2nd one I posted was for you. :lol:
 

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Cutler has a 21-52 record as a starter when his team allows more than 20 points

He also has a pathetic record vs winning teams. Thru 2012, .333 winning percentage at 19-38

He has played in the playoffs once, I believe

The bears offense was vastly improved under the backup when he went down a couple of years ago

Given his wealth of physical attributes, he must suck upstairs in order to have produced so little in his career
Dude, look at Brees' record when giving up more than 20 or Mannings Brady is the only qb to be even close to 500 in that stat.

Cutler has had multiple offensive coordinators in his career.

His record against winning teams? Even the statement alone is an oxymoron. It's a team game he's the only one responsible for wins and losses against other TEAMS? And what does that have to do with heart? And no they were not better with a back up in, not even remotely close.

Bart you're not even trying to answer the question.


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