scott, since you like facts so much, I went back and checked on how horrible Horry was with your lakers, when you musta been app. 15 watching him when he first started playing... so lets look at what i found ...
lets start with his atrocious series in 2003 when he shot .319 and went 2/38 treys (earlier I sighted that as horrible and an anomaly, which it was, similar to West's nightmare finals in '72 vs Knicks the year the Lakers won their first crown, and Zeke shot .376 fg % for entire playoffs)
Now, you have insisted many times how much more important the playoffs are than the regular season, and most would agree with that, so not even delving into Horrys unreal contributions for HOU's two crowns, where he popped in treys like no big since Bird, played stellar D, and rebounded more than his share, lets now look into his efforts with the lakers ...
[Post season scoring avg. listed first then reg season)
'97 6.7/ 9.2 (only payed 22 games with LA, traded)
'98 8.6 / 7.4
'99 5.0 / 4.9
'00 7.6 / 5.7
'01 5.9 / 5.2
'02 9.3 / 6.8
'03 5.6 / 6.5
now just looking at that, you can see its fairly amazing to me a "role" player's stats increase on a team where Shaq and Kobe took app. 66% of LA's shots ... but maybe thats just me, check around and see how many other role (bench) players #s increase in playoff action in history of league
in the '98 post seaon, Horry's ratio of shots per scoring avg. was 1.62--an unreal number that Kobe never came close to and only one player in history of game fnished career with more economy
Horry also had years where he shot ... 43%, 35%, 42%, 36% and 39% of his treys in post season, ungodly numbers for a 6'10 sub with the ability to run the lane, play great D and rebound (he did have 11 rbs last night--as well as 5 assists and 3 steals) leading the spurs at 34 y-o... I doubt those skills were lessened as a younger player, course when you were were in HS maybe you appreciated those type of things) In Horry's LA playoff career he's avg. 2.2 off bds a game and nearly 3 one season; figuring a winning effort by a team in Hubie Brown's opinion is 12, then Horry as a role player is a huge contributor in that vital category...
Horry's FG% one might argue was not high with LA, but seeing he began to take nearly 1/3rd of his shots as treys, it was more than respectable, the only star i could find in like number was reggie miller in which 1 in 3 career attempts were treys ...
Even Horry's assists climbed in playoffs, surpassing 3.1 per game during three diff Laker seasons, up from reg seaosn 2.3 a game in his career--that my friend is a remarkable number any way you cut it for a role playing fwd.
As far as running the court, tipping balls out, taking charges, playing defense, again, I defer to the subjectivenes of your 15 y-o memory to ascertain that Horry didnt contribute in those subtle, winning ways
the reason Im spending time with this is b/c I have always respected Horry's game and realized what a true winner he is and was in all ways, even tho i despised the Lakers ... every pundit and coach refers to him as one the most clutch players ever to lace them up in post season ...
so if you have your usual proof to dispute his contirbutiions to your lakers (albeit his 2/38 season) I would enjoy reading your FACTS other than your memory
gl to deet
gregg
