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To Win:

Kyle Busch (+500)
Hamlin (+1000)
Vickers (+3000)
Ragan (+3000)
Montoya (+3000)
McMurray (+3500)


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Hope it's OK to add my Plays here

TONY STEWART +600 X 2.5
DALE EARNHARDT JR +800 X 2.5
JEFF GORDON +800 X 4.0
 

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Great odds on the board but this truley is potluck to pick a winner.

Small win plays:
#48(12-1) for 20 Crashed
Harvick(20-1) for 20 Crashed
Mcmurray(35-1) for 10 Crashed
Kahne(50-1) for 10 Crashed
Vickers(35-1) for 10
Jeff Gordon(8-1) for 30 Crashed

100 in plays any winner more than doubles money.

PARLAY:
Mcmurray over Kahne Crashed
Allmendinger over Stremme Crahed
50 wins 114
LOSER

Longshot parlay because plate racing is a joke:
Ragan over Burton
Smoke over Kyle B.
Harvick over Martin
15 wins 100
Loser because Ragan couldn't quite get Burton at the end.


Straight play:
Casey Mears(Even) over Labonte for 50 wins 50


Good luck. Going light today as plate racing blows.
 
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kegray1

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PLATE RACING BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!

:mad: :mj10: :mj16:

#48 quote "It sucks racing here."

:iagree:
 

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Best race in a very long time - if you missed it go find the highlights right now !
 

kegray1

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The drivers and the teams all hate plate racing.
It is a joke.
Entertaining sure.
100% luck sure.
Dangerous sure.

Carl Edwards said after the race that it is something they will have to deal with until somebody dies. I guess he went again.
 

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The drivers and the teams all hate plate racing.
It is a joke.
Entertaining sure.
100% luck sure.
Dangerous sure.

Carl Edwards said after the race that it is something they will have to deal with until somebody dies. I guess he went again.

yeah - I think I've seen you mention it a few times today.
 

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Carl is wrong, if the sport can sacrifice DE Sr. to plate racing it may take more than the loss of a driver or two to yank this crap of a spectacle from the schedule.

The media pumps the thrill of "The Big One" all the time for plate racing. We all watch in eager anticipation. Kind of like being a witness to a train wreck or a possible scene in "Faces of Death".

As a gambler we all understand the odds. Well the odds are that every year or two a racer is going to die racing; even at this level. The problem is: the odds of dying in an accident plate racing are probably at a minimum twice as bad as ANY other track and probably 3-4 times worse than most.

As far as spectators go, well lets just say a lot of people do not pay attention to the fine print that states "there is an inherent risk associated with the viewing of motorsports and ISC is in way responsible for what happens to you....". Just like the risk to drivers is worse at these two tracks the risk to spectators is exponentially worse. ie; you are pretty stupid if you are sitting near abouts the level of the catchfence at these two tracks.
 

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By the way, as far as gambling is concerned. I don't mind the plate races, my edge is just not as great as other venues. I reduce the variance by spreading the wagers around and value, Value, VALUE betting!
 

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By the way, as far as gambling is concerned. I don't mind the plate races, my edge is just not as great as other venues. I reduce the variance by spreading the wagers around and value, Value, VALUE betting!

I have had two losing weekends thus far in NASCAR.
Daytona and now Talladega.

There is NO SUCH thing as value wagering in plate races.
It is pure luck if your drivers avoids the big ones and gets the right draft at the right time in the last two laps.
If by value you mean you play the underdogs the oddsmakers assign then sure because it is luck.
At other tracks you can look at history and practices and even qualify(impound races) to get an real good idea of how they are gonna run.

A guy who hasn't seen one second of a Nascar race can pick matchups as good or better than a Nascar handicapper because it is pure luck.

Tell me how my wagers were not pure luck yesterday:

Had Smoke over Kyle Busch. Busch gets spun out in the lead and falls a lap down with under 20 to go after leading Stewart all day. Smoke then loses a cylinder but still holds on to lead lap to beat Kyle.---LUCK

I can do you one better. Had Ragan over Jeff Burton. Electrical failure causes Burton to fall 3 laps down but only at a Plate race can the guy 3 laps down get a lap back with the lucky dog because nobody is weak in a plate race.
Burton gets all 3 laps back and beats Ragan because he found a better draft line late.---LUCK

Ah, that felt good to get that frustration of that play out.
 
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kegray1

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Oh and I also had these two:

Harvick over Martin- Both crash in lap 8 but Harvick comes back out to get the points.

Mcmurray over Kahne-Both crash out in lap 8 but Kahne comes back out to get the points.

Both wagers are based on luck.
 

kegray1

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Oh and the final proof of luck in a plate race:

BRAD KESELOWSKI WON THE RACE!!!!!!!!!
 

grinin

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There is NO SUCH thing as value wagering in plate races.
It is pure luck if your drivers avoids the big ones and gets the right draft at the right time in the last two laps.

I assume you are using hyperbole, because you can find value in almost every plate race if you shop hard enough. There is a significant difference in driver talent/ability/decision making, even in plate racing. The difference is just less significant than with other styles of racing. When Jr finishes 1st or 2nd seven races in a row that is definitely NOT luck.
 

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I assume you are using hyperbole, because you can find value in almost every plate race if you shop hard enough. There is a significant difference in driver talent/ability/decision making, even in plate racing. The difference is just less significant than with other styles of racing. When Jr finishes 1st or 2nd seven races in a row that is definitely NOT luck.

That is 100% true but when they match him up with a guy like Gordon or Stewart who are excellent plate racers as well then where is the value??

I will jump on Jr vs Hornish play anywhere I can find it,but I have yet to see those offers.

And Jr got taken out by Vickers at Daytona this year and Kenseth got LUCKY to slide between that mess and he got the win because of it.

Betting those guys at 5-1 to win a plate race is a huge risk because one guy can screw up your day which is stuff that doesn't really happen elsewhere.
I will admit good value out there if you throw around enough cash and get lucky.
Edwards was 12-1 yesterday which was a good value for a guy of his ability.
 
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