The DOW was 8281 the day Obama took office
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Of course I did. It's hard to have an objective conversation with people who pointed to the factual amounts of the dow jones average and personal well being as a reason for Bush's success, but now are looking to reasons on why the market is up ~ 50% since Obama took office.
And, I could care less about investors who took on a high risk high return investment in GM because they knew that the government wouldn't let it fail and then didn't like how the government didn't let it fail.
i know i was getting 5% on cd`s when this mofo took office...and now the best i can find is 2.43......
f-ck the stock market...i`m not gambling with real money...
We are still trying to dig our way out of the mess that Bush left. Seems to me you some people are not thinking it is happening fast enough. I for one think Obama should forget about what the Republicans want and fix the country. Those MFers have tried to block everything that has worked.
what`s working stevie?....we`re in debt up to our asses(and we`re raising the debt ceiling without putting any cost cutting measures in place...thanks dems)...gas prices are going through the roof(yet we are getting regulatorily butt fucked by this administration...blocking us from utilizing our own resources).... ...food prices are going through the roof...
you can`t even talk to a service person in the states...all those jobs are in india...
unemployment is nearly 10 %...."real" unemployment is god only knows....
many of our states are going belly up because of union sweetheart deals....and we`ll probably end up bailing them out without anybody doing a damned thing to correct why they went bankrupt in the first place....
yes....another f-cking bailout?....for fiscally irresponsible states?...:facepalm:
we`re not even feigning an attempt to close our borders yet this administration and many liberal states want to give illegals in state tuition while natural born citizens pay out the ying-yang....
...the cost of healthcare is not going down...it`s sky rocketing(anybody that thinks we are going to save money by insuring 40 million more people needs to put down the bong)...what exactly has government done that was cost efficient?...medicare?...social security?..post office?....lol....
two years into this chinese fire drill was all it took for the people to decide to clean the dems out of the house of representatives..at least in the states that aren`t largely populated by "on the dole" sheeple...
i can`t even get a decent c.d. rate...
why the hell do you think obama is NOW talkin about a private sector based recovery?...because now,he doesn`t have both houses to ram all his socialist bullshit through in spite of what the american people want....and the fact that he knows that he`s a one term president if he doesn`t at least fake being fiscally responsible.......
WHERE`S HE BEEN FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS?...he`s been f`ing up the best healthcare system in the modern world...wringing his hands about don`t ask/don`t tell...having beer summits....trying to force regular criminal trials with miranda rights for terrorists......bailing out the unions(which are in no small part responsible for getting us into this mess) instead of correcting the problem....
where was all this concern for jobs for the past 2 years?...
nowhere to be found...now he`s different because the opposing party has some leverage?....
he`ll continue this latest line of b.s. until he wins reelection...then he reverts back to trying to mold the country into the european union west....
well,no thanks...i ain`t buyin` it for a second...
oh yeah...it`s all sweetness and light...
"Oh, please Government, save me, make my food cheaper, my cd rates higher . . . ."
Pathetic, weasie
Pathetic, weasie
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All of those problems you mention where what Obama inhereted from your NeoCon Hero's.
You didnt have a hard time with gas prices when they were a buck a gallon higher under Bush they were robbing us while making record profits. You had no problem with the deficit when Bush was invading countries needlessly. How long have service jobs been going to India? I think its longer than 2 years.
As for the best healthcare system in the world NOBODY CAN AFFORD IT the way the AMA and insurance companies are robbing us. Something has to be done to control costs. Any of your Republican friends have any ideas?
And the Republicans were voted out in record numbers but all the remaining did was gum up the works.
And Obama instead of crushing them tried to play ball with them. A mistake we are all paying for.
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I swear you are one of the biggest hypocrites on this site. Fucking embarrassing. :facepalm:
MUCH better --Thank You
OOps almost forgot--
If a person owned every stock in the dow on day O was elected and had to sell on day Dems were voted out this past nov--did he make money or lose money? Anyone venture a guess?
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Study Confirms That Fox News Makes You Stupid
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A new survey of American voters shows that Fox News viewers are significantly more misinformed than consumers of news from other sources.
December 15, 2010 | Yet another study has been released proving that watching Fox News is detrimental to your intelligence. World Public Opinion, a project managed by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, conducted a survey of American voters that shows that Fox News viewers are significantly more misinformed than consumers of news from other sources. What?s more, the study shows that greater exposure to Fox News increases misinformation.
So the more you watch, the less you know. Or to be precise, the more you think you know that is actually false. This study corroborates a previous PIPA study that focused on the Iraq war with similar results. And there was an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll that demonstrated the break with reality on the part of Fox viewers with regard to health care. The body of evidence that Fox News is nothing but a propaganda machine dedicated to lies is growing by the day.
In eight of the nine questions below, Fox News placed first in the percentage of those who were misinformed (they placed second in the question on TARP). That?s a pretty high batting average for journalistic fraud. Here is a list of what Fox News viewers believe that just aint so:
91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs
72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit
72 percent believe the economy is getting worse
60 percent believe climate change is not occurring
49 percent believe income taxes have gone up
63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts
56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailout
38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARP
63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear)
The conclusion is inescapable. Fox News is deliberately misinforming its viewers and it is doing so for a reason. Every issue above is one in which the Republican Party had a vested interest. The GOP benefited from the ignorance that Fox News helped to proliferate. The results were apparent in the election last month as voters based their decisions on demonstrably false information fed to them by Fox News.
By the way, the rest of the media was not blameless. CNN and the broadcast network news operations fared only slightly better in many cases. Even MSNBC, which had the best record of accurately informing viewers, has a ways to go before it can brag about it.
The conclusions in this study need to be disseminated as broadly as possible. Fox?s competitors need to report these results and produce ad campaigns featuring them. Newspapers and magazines need to publish the study across the country. This is big news and it is critical that the nation be advised that a major news enterprise is poisoning their minds.
This is not an isolated review of Fox?s performance. It has been corroborated time and time again. The fact that Fox News is so blatantly dishonest, and the effects of that dishonesty have become ingrained in an electorate that has been been purposefully deceived, needs to be made known to every American. Our democracy cannot function if voters are making choices based on lies. We have the evidence that Fox is tilting the scales and we must now make certain its corporate owners do not get away with it.
Study Confirms That Fox News Makes You Stupid
That may not be true. It's equally likely that being stupid makes you watch Fox.
That may not be true. It's equally likely that being stupid makes you watch Fox.
That rant's been building for 2 years.
Feel better now Weezy?
A little piece of advise for you Weezy... Don't let it build up so long. Stop in more often to rant. The venting would do you good and we can always use the entertainment... get's a little slow in here sometimes.
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I'M NOT VERY POLITICAL AT ALL, BUT THESE STATS PEOPLE ARE THROWING AROUND ARE INTERESTING. DOESN'T IT ALWAYS COME DOWN TO "aRE YOU BETTER OFF TODAY THEN YOU WERE 2 YEARS AGO? OR I GUESS IF REPUBLICANS WANT TO "SPLIT - HAIRS" THEY CAN USE 2006 WHEN THE DEMS TOOK OVER THER CONGRESS AS A STARTING DATE.
its nothing more than economic cycles, look at history, it does not matter who is Pres
Gas prices are a perfect example of cycles. I mean it would be foolish for a Republican to argue that when Bush left office gas was arouind $1.80 a gallon and look at it now. Their only argument should be, "Look it makes no difference. Those bastards are going to gouge us anyways."
It took years to get this country in this bad of shape and it will take longer to get it better.
Can anyone out there even think 5 years ago some mediocre ex Governor from Alaska, of all states, could be mentioned in the same breath as a shooting in Arizona? :shrug:
Everyone is more interested in the blame game than solving problems, and no one gives anyone time to solve a problem either.
It took years to get this country in this bad of shape and it will take longer to get it better.
Can anyone out there even think 5 years ago some mediocre ex Governor from Alaska, of all states, could be mentioned in the same breath as a shooting in Arizona? :shrug:
Everyone is more interested in the blame game than solving problems, and no one gives anyone time to solve a problem either.
Things haven't changed much on your end Smurph--
Your last 4 posts--
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Lock of the century. ......of the week.
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Don't you ever get tired of yourself?
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May I ask--
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Things haven't changed much on your end Smurph--
Your last 4 posts--
+++++++++++++++++
Def GB times 8
Lock of the century. ......of the week.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
GB 23 PIT 20
+++++++++++++++++++++
Don't you ever get tired of yourself?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Does she like beer?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
May I ask--
-do you come up with these all by yourself or does your dart league- "think tank" assist
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