so have you been to the museum then ?
I just have to stand on the road where it happened and collect my hateful feelings towards alot of things when that happened.
The Men Who Killed Kennedy
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so have you been to the museum then ?
I just have to stand on the road where it happened and collect my hateful feelings towards alot of things when that happened.
I went there twice when I lived in Dallas. Really enjoyed the museum and would recommend it.
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My grandfather worked in the FBI and helped write the Warren Commission. He may have some answers...
The only time I have seen him get kind of mad in his entire life was when I asked him about the JFK conspiracy.
And he didn't bat an eye when I asked him about the aliens.
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The only time I have seen him get kind of mad in his entire life was when I asked him about the JFK conspiracy.
And he didn't bat an eye when I asked him about the aliens.
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Yea I have and I would say it is rather cool yes, but not something I would plan a trip around is all. There are some pretty cool things to see in the area though. The Bonnie and Clyde tour is fun etc...
It happened just like they said in the Warren Commission :0074
and yes there are aliens :scared
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I know...and honestly there are few days that go by when I am not irked by the fact that I haven't heard your whole story. Seriously, next time I see you that is the first thing we are discussing. Oh, I guess you can cook me dinner too :0074
I lived in the SW for 15 years, I know all about the aliens. I also have a really good friend who was abducted, so we can compare notes.
My grandfather indicated that there were aliens and the government had a great deal more knowledge about them than they let on.
you know my Dad is a retired rocket scientist for NASA and he wont even listen to any conspiracy theories ... I try to say watch shows that have disproved that Oswald could have possibly shot that many times with the weapon he used ... will NOT listen to any of it and he is the smartest man I have ever known
your hubby was not pleased the last time I cooked for you guys ... except the me paying for it ... said it costs him MUCH more after I left :mj07:
think I will go buy some Sea Bass to ring in the New Year tomorrow night :0074
and I was never abducted ... just in there presence :scared
your hubby was not pleased the last time I cooked for you guys ... except the me paying for it ... said it costs him MUCH more after I left :mj07:
think I will go buy some Sea Bass to ring in the New Year tomorrow night :0074
and I was never abducted ... just in there presence :scared
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Yes, that is what my grandfather pretty much said too...that there was no discussion to be had because it all happened exactly how reported. He is the second smartest person I have ever met, and I would never doubt his word. Of course, now I am surrounded by conspiracy theories :facepalm:
Mmmmm... I do need to cook you my miso-sake marinated sea bass some time. One of the best things, ever!! I am getting hungry now, sheeshe. From JFK to aliens to food...stream of consciousness at its best, haha.
Hope you have a great new year :toast:
yours sounds TASTY too :0074
I dont think you can mess that fish up except for over cooking it ... we could always buy enough to make it several different ways :00hour
Happy New Year to you, Chad and the girls :0008
I dont think you can mess that fish up except for over cooking it ... we could always buy enough to make it several different ways :00hour
Happy New Year to you, Chad and the girls :0008
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A new documentary alleges that a Secret Service agent was the second (and accidental) shooter in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
At the Television Critics Association press tour in Los Angeles on Sunday, producers and investigators behind Reelz Channel's new documentary "JFK: The Smoking Gun" made the claim that George Hickey, a Secret Service agent riding in the car behind Kennedy, accidentally shot the president on Nov. 22, 1963. The film follows veteran police detective Colin McLaren in his four-year investigation of the assassination and points at Hickey, who died two years ago.
McLaren's research built on the work of Howard Donahue, who spent 20 years studying the assassination and had his findings documented in Bonar Menninger?s book Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK. McLaren and Menninger were on hand Sunday to take questions about their film, which the network billed in press notes as a "docudrama."
Addressing the crowd, McLaren claimed that Hickey and other Secret Service agents were out partying the night before Kennedy's fatal motorcade drive through Dallas. Based on his painstaking investigation, McLaren said, evidence suggests Hickey was not qualified to use the weapon he was holding the morning of the shooting.
"It was his first time in the follow car, his first time holding the assault weapon he was using," McLaren said. Producers said the film's theory is that shots rang out, and Hickey grabbed his weapon to return fire. When his car stopped suddenly, Hickey accidentally discharged his weapon -- making him the second shooter, the film's investigators and producers alleged.
McLaren said he believes that Hickey's weapon had hollow-point rounds -- different from the ammunition for the weapon used by Lee Harvey Oswald, whom the Warren Commission declared in 1964 was the lone gunman in the case. Menninger and McLaren said that based on their review of the forensics in the case, they believe that Kennedy was also struck by a hollow-point round.
Oswald was killed before he could stand trial, but the case has continued to inspire various theories around just how the tragedy occurred. Books and films have advanced different ideas -- including a second shooter theory.
"We're not saying this was intentional," Menninger said Sunday. "This was a tragic accident in the heat of the moment."
"We don't suggest he was in any way involved in a conspiracy," Menninger added.
Donahue wrote about his theory decades ago, but McLaren said it's taken decades -- and the release of thousands of JFK-related documents during the Clinton administration -- for a proper review of all the evidence and information related to the case. The authors acknowledged Sunday that there are many other books and films on the assassination, but said theirs is unique because it is based on a new review of the documents released during the 1990s.
McLaren and Menninger also alleged that the government -- including Robert F. Kennedy -- covered up the involvement of the Secret Service and Hickey.
The producers were pressed on how the alleged involvement of the Secret Service could be covered up for 50 years.
"Nobody was going to gain" from having this out there, Menninger said.
"We're not here to blacken the name" of Hickey or any other individual, or the modern-day Secret Service, McLaren said.
Menninger discussed the fact that he was sued by Hickey in the 1990s, but noted that despite a settlement, his publisher never removed his book from the shelves.
"I'm sure that [Hickey] suffered greatly from this," Menninger said. "The fact that he passed on -- maybe it's time to talk about it."
"Our documentary is going to be the only one that has opened the case forensically and looked at the evidence from the beginning and examined everything that happened that day in Dealey Plaza," Michael Prupas, the film's executive director, said.
Reelz Channel gained notice two years ago for airing the miniseries "The Kennedys," which some historical experts criticized as an unflattering portrayal of the family.
"No other network will touch these things," Reelz's CEO Stanley E. Hubbard said Sunday.
The documentary is set to air on Nov. 3, 2013, according to a press release.
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how many years can they keep coming up with lies
at least they got the second shooter correct
:SIB
At the Television Critics Association press tour in Los Angeles on Sunday, producers and investigators behind Reelz Channel's new documentary "JFK: The Smoking Gun" made the claim that George Hickey, a Secret Service agent riding in the car behind Kennedy, accidentally shot the president on Nov. 22, 1963. The film follows veteran police detective Colin McLaren in his four-year investigation of the assassination and points at Hickey, who died two years ago.
McLaren's research built on the work of Howard Donahue, who spent 20 years studying the assassination and had his findings documented in Bonar Menninger?s book Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK. McLaren and Menninger were on hand Sunday to take questions about their film, which the network billed in press notes as a "docudrama."
Addressing the crowd, McLaren claimed that Hickey and other Secret Service agents were out partying the night before Kennedy's fatal motorcade drive through Dallas. Based on his painstaking investigation, McLaren said, evidence suggests Hickey was not qualified to use the weapon he was holding the morning of the shooting.
"It was his first time in the follow car, his first time holding the assault weapon he was using," McLaren said. Producers said the film's theory is that shots rang out, and Hickey grabbed his weapon to return fire. When his car stopped suddenly, Hickey accidentally discharged his weapon -- making him the second shooter, the film's investigators and producers alleged.
McLaren said he believes that Hickey's weapon had hollow-point rounds -- different from the ammunition for the weapon used by Lee Harvey Oswald, whom the Warren Commission declared in 1964 was the lone gunman in the case. Menninger and McLaren said that based on their review of the forensics in the case, they believe that Kennedy was also struck by a hollow-point round.
Oswald was killed before he could stand trial, but the case has continued to inspire various theories around just how the tragedy occurred. Books and films have advanced different ideas -- including a second shooter theory.
"We're not saying this was intentional," Menninger said Sunday. "This was a tragic accident in the heat of the moment."
"We don't suggest he was in any way involved in a conspiracy," Menninger added.
Donahue wrote about his theory decades ago, but McLaren said it's taken decades -- and the release of thousands of JFK-related documents during the Clinton administration -- for a proper review of all the evidence and information related to the case. The authors acknowledged Sunday that there are many other books and films on the assassination, but said theirs is unique because it is based on a new review of the documents released during the 1990s.
McLaren and Menninger also alleged that the government -- including Robert F. Kennedy -- covered up the involvement of the Secret Service and Hickey.
The producers were pressed on how the alleged involvement of the Secret Service could be covered up for 50 years.
"Nobody was going to gain" from having this out there, Menninger said.
"We're not here to blacken the name" of Hickey or any other individual, or the modern-day Secret Service, McLaren said.
Menninger discussed the fact that he was sued by Hickey in the 1990s, but noted that despite a settlement, his publisher never removed his book from the shelves.
"I'm sure that [Hickey] suffered greatly from this," Menninger said. "The fact that he passed on -- maybe it's time to talk about it."
"Our documentary is going to be the only one that has opened the case forensically and looked at the evidence from the beginning and examined everything that happened that day in Dealey Plaza," Michael Prupas, the film's executive director, said.
Reelz Channel gained notice two years ago for airing the miniseries "The Kennedys," which some historical experts criticized as an unflattering portrayal of the family.
"No other network will touch these things," Reelz's CEO Stanley E. Hubbard said Sunday.
The documentary is set to air on Nov. 3, 2013, according to a press release.
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how many years can they keep coming up with lies
at least they got the second shooter correct
:SIB
The museum/book depot in Dallas was one of the most interesting places I have every visited in my travels.
I am going to try to get to Dallas this year and see that.
on my bucket list for long time
