The Men Who Killed Kennedy

[AR182]

judge...

i defintely agree with the article pretty much except i heard that it was mobster from new orleans named marcello (?) who orchestrated the hit.

 

[The Judge]

You are talking about Trafficanti and he was involved but it was Giancana that was behind it all. Read the book, Al. I have read it four times and it is fascinating.

 

[AR182]

You are talking about Trafficanti and he was involved but it was Giancana that was behind it all. Read the book, Al. I have read it four times and it is fascinating.

i just made a note of it..thanks judge.

 

[Big One Gun]

The Lean

The Lean

In the picture with Oswald and the gun on his hip the stance of his body makes it apparent that the picture is fake!

 

[TonyTT]

No doubt there was mob involvement as were rouge elements of the CIA. The Kennedys had a lot of enemies. If you ever get a chance check out a Dec '75 copy of TIME mag with HOOVER on the cover. It came out after his death of course. The article told of the "strange" relationship that the "top cop" had with the mob. Agents told of how Hoover used to meet in NY's central park with FRANK COSTELLO to "talk things over". Each section of the country had its "boss", of course the midwest "boss" was Giancanna and the southwestern "boss" was MARCELLO of La, whose area included Dallas. As a matter of fact HALE BOGGS (reputed Marcello politician) wound up on the Warren Comm. An aide later wrote that Boggs was very skeptecal of the conclusion of the commission, reporting that "Hoover lied his ass off to the commission...he lied about the gun, he lied about Oswald." Of course Boggs met an untimely death later in a plane accident and as for Giancanna he fled to Mexico years later then met his fate just before he was to testify before congress...within weeks of HOFFA disappearing. Marcello and MEYER LANSKY were amoung the very few mob higher ups of that era to live a long life and die of "natural causes". Another good read for folks to check out would be MAFIA KINGFISH about Carlos Marcello's life.
In later years the Hoover / MOB relationship was explained as the mob blackmailing Hoover because of his homosexuality. I myself find it hard to imagine that the greatest 'blackmailer" of the last century could be blackmailed by anyone. It was said that Hoover never trusted anyone that he didn't have the goods on. That guy was the only FBI director for ALMOST FIFTY YEARS, seeing presidents come and go and arguably the most powerful person in govt throughout the 60's.

 

[AR182]

No doubt there was mob involvement as were rouge elements of the CIA. The Kennedys had a lot of enemies. If you ever get a chance check out a Dec '75 copy of TIME mag with HOOVER on the cover. It came out after his death of course. The article told of the "strange" relationship that the "top cop" had with the mob. Agents told of how Hoover used to meet in NY's central park with FRANK COSTELLO to "talk things over". Each section of the country had its "boss", of course the midwest "boss" was Giancanna and the southwestern "boss" was MARCELLO of La, whose area included Dallas. As a matter of fact HALE BOGGS (reputed Marcello politician) wound up on the Warren Comm. An aide later wrote that Boggs was very skeptecal of the conclusion of the commission, reporting that "Hoover lied his ass off to the commission...he lied about the gun, he lied about Oswald." Of course Boggs met an untimely death later in a plane accident and as for Giancanna he fled to Mexico years later then met his fate just before he was to testify before congress...within weeks of HOFFA disappearing. Marcello and MEYER LANSKY were amoung the very few mob higher ups of that era to live a long life and die of "natural causes". Another good read for folks to check out would be MAFIA KINGFISH about Carlos Marcello's life.
In later years the Hoover / MOB relationship was explained as the mob blackmailing Hoover because of his homosexuality. I myself find it hard to imagine that the greatest 'blackmailer" of the last century could be blackmailed by anyone. It was said that Hoover never trusted anyone that he didn't have the goods on. That guy was the only FBI director for ALMOST FIFTY YEARS, seeing presidents come and go and arguably the most powerful person in govt throughout the 60's.

good post tony....

costello also died of natural causes as an old man...he's a guy i would like to read about.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Clinton was involved.

Dogs That Bark

 

[MadJack]

Clinton was involved.

Dogs That Bark

:mj07:

 

[THE KOD]

The SHOOTING TEAM ON THE GRASSY KNOLL

However, it was Christian David, a Corsican professional assassin, soldier of fortune and drug smuggler who was FIRST offered a contract to kill President Kennedy by a Mafioso chieftain in Marseilles, France.

David's story as relayed to investigative journalist Stephen J Rivele is this: In May or June of 1963, he was offered a contract by Antoine Guerini, the Corsican crime boss in Marseilles, to kill "a highly placed American politician" whom Guerini called the "biggest vegetable" --President Kennedy. The president was to be killed on U.S. territory. David told Rivele that he turned down the contract because it was too dangerous.

After David turned down the contract offer, he said it was accepted by Lucien Sarti, another Corsican drug trafficker and killer, and two (2) other members of the Marseilles mob whom he refused to name and were described by him as "sharpshooters."

In his first meeting with Rivele on January 15, 1986, Christian David confirmed that Lucien Sarti had accepted the contract on JFK. He said that about two (2) weeks before the assassination, Sarti flew from France to Mexico City, from where he drove or was driven to the U.S border at Brownsville, TX. Sarti crossed at Brownsville where he was picked up by someone from the Chicago mafia [confirmed in the book "DOUBLE CROSS" in Chapter 15]. This person drove him to a private house in Dallas rather than his staying in a hotel where records would be left; Sarti traveled on an Italian passport.

Upon being shown an aerial photo by Rivele of Dealey Plaza during their fourth meeting on 1-18-'86, David said that Sarti fired from the FRONT and that he was NOT in a building. Sarti had wanted to be on the bridge, but it was guarded so he had to move down towards the hill. Christian David then reconstructed the actual shooting of President Kennedy as follows:

? There were three (3) gunmen that he KNEW OF;

? It was a crossfire using three (3) guns;

? Two shooting behind the president, one in front;

? Of the two behind, one was high and one was low and "almost on the
horizontal";

? FIRST shot was fired from behind and hit Kennedy in the back;

? SECOND shot was fired from behind and hit "the other person in the
car" [Senator Connally];

? THIRD shot was fired from the front;

? FOURTH shot was fired from behind and missed "because the car was
too far away";

? Stated that two (2) shots were almost simultaneous;

? Says he believed the gunmen went to Canada and had important
contacts in Montreal;

? David believes that Sarti was killed by Mexican police at the
request of the CIA; the identity of his two (2) alleged accomplices
remains unknown.

? The SHOOTING TEAM IN THE TEXAS BOOK DEPOSITORY BUILDING

The shooters/assassins in the Texas Book School Depository: Malcolm E "Mac" Wallace who had performed at least four (4) "hits" on behalf of Lyndon Baines Johnson through his personal attorney, Edward Clark.

From Chicago, Richard Cain and Charles Nicoletti were actual gunmen for the hit, being placed at opposite ends of the Dallas Book Depository. In FACT, it was Cain, not Oswald, who'd actually fired from the infamous 6th-story window.

Richard Cain, with a genius for mathematics -- and whose real name was Ricardo Scalzitti -- was both fluent in five (5) languages and a superior marksman who had been trained by the Chicago Police Dept. The CIA found Cain "tailor-made for a top-notch agent."

CRIME SCENE FACTOID: Mac Wallace's fingerprint in the "sniper's nest" was the ultimate connection between Dallas and Johnson. Through the identification of the critical fingerprint, Mac Wallace could be linked to Oswald at the Texas School Book Depository, a building owned by Clint Murchison associate and wealthy Texas oil man David Howard Byrd.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwallaceM.htm

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/23rd_Issue/breakthru.html

The way in which Mac Wallace and Oswald met is not known. We know they did meet and that they were together on the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository when Kennedy was shot.

Johnson's attorney, Edward Clark also brought in two (2) other participants, one a backup shooter [Richard Cain] and the other a guard disguised as a Secret Service agent [Charles "Chuckie" Nicoletti].

ASSASSINATION PAYMENT: Each man involved in the JFK assassination plot received $50,000. The money raised for the hit on the president had come from wealthy right-wing Texas oilmen like Syd Richardson, H L Hunt, Clint Murchison and Mike Davis.

The mastermind and primary driving force behind the JFK assassination -- LBJ's personal attorney -- Edward Clark, though he never directly admitted a payoff for the assassination, told confidantes at his law firm that the total was $2 million cash for him alone from the Texas right-wing oilmen.

"NOT A THREAT BUT A PROMISE"

Madeleine Duncan Brown was on record stating that Johnson was behind the killing of Kennedy and of SEVERAL OTHER MEN. Brown has a bound manuscript and a book on the subject, but has been largely disregarded. She passed away on June 22, 2002. Her story was extended beyond its original basics, a problem for many in the wake of the assassination.

In her memoir, "Texas In The Morning,"(1997), LBJ's mistress, the late Madeleine Brown, wrote of being at a "social" in honor of J Edgar Hoover at the home of Texas oil millionaire, and longtime backer of LBJ, Clint Murchison, on Nov 21, 1963, the evening BEFORE the JFK assassination.

"A short time later Lyndon, anxious and red-faced, reappeared. squeezing my hand so hard, he spoke into my ear, not a love message, but one I'll always remember: 'After tomorrow, those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again -- that's NOT a threat -- that's a promise.'"

JFK/LBJ FLASH POINT:

Kennedy's secretary, Evelyn Lincoln wrote that the day President Kennedy left for Dallas, they discussed the Bobby Baker scandal, LBJ's deep involvement in it, and the effects of the scandal on the campaign. Kennedy told her: "I will need a running mate in '64, a man who believes as I do."

Lincoln wrote: "President Kennedy had talked and I had just listened, but I did venture one question. Now I asked, "Who is your choice as a running mate?"

He looked straight ahead, and without hesitating, he replied: 'At this time, I am thinking about Governor Terry Sanford of N Carolina. BUT IT WILL NOT BE LYNDON.'

This news was not shocking to me. It had been my feeling for quite a while that Lyndon Johnson would NOT be the Vice-Presidential candidate in the next campaign. In fact, I had discussed this possibility with my husband and friends many times."

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[THE KOD]

JOHNSON's DIRTY POLITICAL LAUNDRY

So much scandal swirled about Johnson that it all but destroyed Kennedy's presidency. Johnson was known to have stolen elections, and history has it that the Kennedy/Johnson ticket had the election stolen for them in Chicago, W Virginia and Texas. The Billie Sol Estes scandal involving Johnson was followed by the Bobby Baker scandal.

Had Kennedy NOT died and Johnson become president, Johnson would probably have been forced from office and indicted in the Bobby Baker case. Baker was a former Senate page boy who rose to be Lyndon Johnson's right hand when he was the majority leader, perhaps the second most powerful position in America.

If John Kennedy had not been murdered, the Baker investigation would not have ended. If John Kennedy had not been murdered, the Baker scandal would have either destroyed or tarnished Johnson's image so completely that he would NOT have been on the 1964 ticket. Johnson would have been forced out by Kennedy and/or the media over the Baker scandal, and Johnson's power would have been forever destroyed.

And all of those Texas business defense contractor interests that stood to gain from the Vietnam War would have lost because Kennedy was determined NOT to get involved in combat anywhere in Southeast Asia.

If President Kennedy had not been slain, the truth about LBJ may have put him in PRISON -- as his grandma predicted -- rather than into the White House.

This, then is the solution to the case: LBJ had Kennedy killed to save his political career and stay out of prison. It was just business as usual for LBJ and his little group; Texas was a rough old place in 1963 and LBJ was, in effect, running his own crime syndicate. And, of course, he became president.

Quite how LBJ slipped past the researchers' scrutiny isn't clear. Among a variety of many reasons, it was primarily due to and a tribute to the cover-up organized by LBJ and his good friend, FBI chief J Edgar Hoover, that the enormous scale of which has only become clear and known in the last few years.

Right before Jack Ruby was diagnosed with cancer and was awaiting a second trial, Ruby sent a long message to friends that Lyndon Johnson was behind both the Kennedy assassination and that of Oswald. This allegation was never fully investigated and became public knowledge only indirectly. As is now abundantly clear, Ruby's message was 100% correct.

UNknown to the general U.S. public and never mentioned in U.S. school textbooks, is the fact that a Texas Grand Jury officially indicted and found LBJ GUILTY as a co-conspirator in the following nine (9) murders (also, see Addendum):

1) The killing of Henry Marshall;

2) The killing of George Krutelnik;

3) The killing of Ike Rogers and his secretary;

4) The killing of Harold Orr;

5) The killing of Coleman Wade;

6) The killing of Josefa Johnson [Johnson's own sister!];

7) The killing of John Kinser;

8) The killing of President John F Kennedy

ANONYMOUS BOOK INDICTS JOHNSON and TEXAS OILMEN

Many years ago, someone went to a lot of trouble to publish a book anonymously entitled, "FAREWELL AMERICA: THE PLOT TO KILL JFK," [ISBN# 1883955327] that pinned the crime on the Texas oilmen, Lyndon Johnson and elements of the intelligence and local police agencies.

The book was originally published in Europe in 1968 as "AMERICA IS BURNING," initially banned in the U.S., importation of the book through Canada was squelched at the instigation of the FBI, and then offered to the American Ramparts Magazine which attempted to investigate its origins.

The fact was that the author(s) knew an awful lot about the inner workings of the CIA, and this seemed to establish the book's authenticity. The consensus was that the book originated with French intelligence. Daniel Patrick Moynihan had conducted an intense private investigation for Robert Kennedy and the Justice Dept which concluded that Jimmy Hoffa and other mobsters were NOT involved directly in the planning of the assassination, but crucial evidence was developed indicating a DOMESTIC PLOT.

HISTORICAL FOOTNOTE: Billie Sol Estes' lawyer Douglas Caddy wrote a letter on behalf of his client to the U.S. Dept of Justice in August 1984. In it, Caddy wrote that Estes claimed he and former LBJ's former assistant Cliff Carter had gathered enough evidence to prove that LBJ had ordered eight (8) people (including President Kennedy) to be murdered.

Caddy sought the following for Estes: immunity, forgiveness of back taxes, lifting of parole restrictions, and a presidential pardon. Although the Justice Dept responded with a list of particulars, nothing came of it.

AUTHOR NOEL TWYMAN: And I've done a lot of reading on Billie Sol Estes, and you've got a big piece in your book ["Dallas Did It!"] on him. You know, it's so disturbing, this recent thing that's come out about all of these people that Billie Sol Estes claims Lyndon Johnson had killed. I thought, oh no! I don't even want to see this, because it's so FANTASTIC... so far out.

Now about this letter that Billie Sol Estes' lawyer [Douglas Caddy] wrote naming all these people [that Lyndon Johnson had ordered to be murdered].... That is the most incredible thing I could possibly imagine! I don't even want to have it in my book. No one will believe it!

MADELEINE BROWN: It's ALL TRUE. Pick up the phone and call Caddy [Billie Sol Estes' attorney, Douglas Caddy]. Well, everyone in Dallas -- it was general gossip in the business group -- said that Lyndon was responsible [for JFK's murder]. So I said to him, "Now Lyndon, you've got to tell me. You've got to talk to me. Are you -- were you -- involved with Kennedy's death?" And when I asked him that, he screamed and hollered, and I was really frightened because he had told me many years before that you don't see, hear or repeat anything.

But finally he said," You know the people that I know," talking about the oil people and intelligence... "THEY DID IT." The cold chills went up and down my spine. I didn't know what to believe. The people I knew were responsible. Well, anyway, needless to say, I was so ill, I was sick to my stomach all over it.

? JFK ASSASSINATION SYNOPSIS ?

THE SCENARIO: THE JFK ASSASSINATION ACCORDING TO E. HOWARD HUNT:

E Howard Hunt scribbled the initials "LBJ" standing for Kennedy's ambitious vice president, Lyndon Johnson. Under LBJ," connected by a line, he wrote the name Cord Meyer. Meyer was a CIA agent whose wife had an affair with JFK; later she was murdered, a case that's never been solved.

Next, Hunt connected to Meyer's name the name Bill Harvey, another CIA agent; also connected to Meyer's name was the name David Morales, yet another CIA man and a well-known, particularly vicious black-ops specialist. And then Hunt connected to Morales' name, with a line, the framed words "French Gunman Grassy Knoll" Lucien Sarti who was killed by police in 1972.

So there it was, according to E Howard Hunt. LBJ had Kennedy killed. It had long been speculated upon. But now E Howard Hunt was saying that's the way it was. And that Lee Harvey Oswald WASN'T the only shooter in Dallas. There was also, on the grassy knoll, a French gunman, presumably the Corsican Mafia assassin Lucien Sarti, who has figured prominently in other assassination theories.

Later that week, E Howard also gave his son two sheets of paper that contained a fuller narrative. It starts out with LBJ again, connecting him to Cord Meyer, then goes on: "Cord Meyer discusses a plot with [David Atlee] Phillips who brings in William Harvey and Antonio Veciana. He meets with Oswald in Mexico City.... Then Veciana meets with Frank Sturgis in Miami and enlists David Morales in anticipation of killing JFK there. But LBJ changes itinerary to Dallas, citing personal reasons."

In the next few paragraphs, E Howard goes on to describe the extent of his own involvement. It revolves around a meeting he claims he attended in 1963 with Morales and Sturgis. It takes place in a Miami hotel room. Here's what happens:

Morales leaves the room at which point Sturgis makes reference to a "Big Event" and asks E Howard, "Are you with us?"

E Howard asks Sturgis what he's talking about. Sturgis says, "Killing JFK."

E Howard, "incredulous," says to Sturgis, "You seem to have everything you need. Why do you need me?" In the handwritten narrative, Sturgis' response is unclear, though what E Howard says to Sturgis next isn't: He says he won't "get involved in anything involving Bill Harvey, who is an alcoholic psycho."

After that, the meeting ends. E Howard goes back to his "normal" life and "like the rest of the country ... is stunned by JFK's death and realizes how lucky he is NOT to have had a direct role."

After reading what his father had written, Saint John Hunt was stunned, too. His father had not only implicated LBJ, he'd also, with a few swift marks of a pen, put the lie to almost everything he'd sworn to, under oath, about his knowledge of the assassination.

According to an internal CIA memorandum written in 1966 by Tom Karamessines, an assistant to CIA Director Richard Helms, E Howard Hunt, the Watergate burglar and longtime helper of Richard Nixon, while working for the CIA, WAS in Dallas on the day President John F Kennedy was murdered.

Hunt had vehemently denied this, and sued the authors of "COUP D"ETAT IN AMERICA (CIA)," a book by A J Weberman and Michael Canfield which maintains that Hunt was one of the tramps photographed in Dealey Plaza just after the murder. Nixon later admitted that he, too, was in Dallas on the same day, after denying it for some time.

The memo, allegedly read and initialed by Richard Helms and Sammy Helperan, discusses a concern among the CIA bosses that the presence of Hunt at Dealey Plaza might be uncovered.

Victor Marchetti, the author of "THE CIA AND THE CULT OF INTELLIGENCE," suggests that the CIA had thought about taking a "limited hang-out," and was willing to concede that CIA agents may have been involved in an assassination plot against the late president. CIA executives were admitting that a "renegade" band of agents acting on their own may have made the hit.

PHONY U.S. SECRET SERVICE CREDENTIALS / ASSASSINATION HIT TEAM DETAILS:

LBJ's personal attorney, Edward Clark, had the key steps for the conspiracy in place. Two shooters were ready. Several patsies were available to be used as needed.

By April of 1963, the assassination plans were still under development. Clark's snipers could act in any one of several cities on the visit. The decision was clear: The JFK assassination had best happen during the Kennedy trip to Texas. Any attempt in Washington D.C. was out of the question.

Other states did not have the supporting legal system. The critical preliminary investigation had to be controlled and friendly. The crime had to be in Texas. Dallas was not a foregone conclusion. The assassination could be in any one of the cities on the Kennedy itinerary in Texas.

The sniper shots were the way to do it. Johnson's personal attorney, Edward Clark was fearful that one or two shots would not be enough. Whatever else happened, Kennedy HAD TO BE KILLED.

He decided a front shot might be necessary and would be important insurance. If the sniper from BEHIND did not succeed, the one in front would be ready. Besides, the shot from behind would DIVERT attention from the front. It WOULD work.

The cover had to be perfect. Somehow, NO ONE could get into the building before the snipers shot. Then they would have to have cover for the escape. THE REAL SHOOTERS HAD TO GET AWAY. They had to move quickly and be in a secure place within seconds of the shooting before the police could react. To complete the cover, there had to be REAL SUSPECTS. The patsies would fill that requirement, serving as cover and then being killed.

After considering what would be the best cover, Clark decided to use the U.S. Secret Service. Not real members of the president's security force, but Clark's snipers POSING AS U.S. Secret Service members. The best way was to have men with Secret Service credentials on the scene at Dealey Plaza. From the U.S. Secret Service internal manual Johnson had provided, Clark had the inside information he needed; he knew how to proceed.

Clark called his old army buddy and longtime friend, Clifton "Beau" Carter, and asked about the Secret Service. In the course of conversation. he also ARRANGED TO GET BADGES.

Carter informed him the members wore lapel pins with a certain color-coding that changed everyday. The system provided instant identification that would be hard to duplicate. Clark was PROMISED THE BADGES. He would get them. He also decided that, in the terror following the shooting, "pocket credentials" would do the job. They would do without the lapel pins.

In this and other subtle ways, the Secret Service was injected into the plan and would play a key role in the assassination. The false credentials would provide the necessary protection before and after the shooting. In one of those strange twists of fate, the Secret Service did NOT do their job for President Kennedy, but their impostors did provide the cover needed for Vice President Johnson to become president.

Ten hours after the assassination, Secret Service Chief James Rowley knew that there had been three (3) gunmen, and perhaps four (4), firing in Dallas that day, and later on the telephone head of the White House SS detail Agent Gerald A "Jerry" Behn remarked to Forrest Sorrels (head of the Dallas Secret Service): "It's a plot."

"Of course," was Sorrel's reply. Robert Kennedy, who had already interrogated Kellerman, learned that evening from Rowley that the Secret Service itself believed that President Kennedy had been the victim of a powerful organization.

Former Colonel Fletcher Prouty, who has not been afraid to describe the true nature of this assassination as a COUP by what he calls the "Secret Team," handled Secret Service details for President Eisenhower. Prouty says that Kennedy was deliberately stripped of his security, and the plotters were aware that he would have NO protection that day in Dallas on November 22, 1963.

WHAT OSWALD DID IN THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH OF THE ASSASSINATION

Within 10 minutes of the assassination, the three conspirators were in their cars and GONE from Dealey Plaza, into the deep fog of history, one made all the worse by the slip-shod investigation which followed by the Warren Commission.
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[THE KOD]

Oswald had not been told what to do except to hide and be ready to shoot it out. He was ready for it. For a few long moments, he watched from the 6th floor as people flooded Dealey Plaza. When they started looking in his direction, he hurried over to see Mac Wallace. His partner Wallace and the others were gone having escaped down the stairwell on the northwest corner of the building. Oswald looked at the stairwell.

Still blocked and with rifle in hand, he surveyed the 6th floor. No one there. Oswald may have now finally realized what had happened and that he was on his own. He moved the barrier of book cartons, quickly placed his rifle behind a nearby stack of boxes and ran down the stairs. On the second floor, he headed for the break room and some semblance of an excuse to cover what he had done.

Dallas police officer Marrion L Baker rushed into the Texas Book Depository followed by building manager Roy Truly where they saw Oswald on the second floor. The assassins' patsy was standing before a soft-drink machine. Gesturing with his drawn pistol, Baker asked Truly if he knew the man. Truly identified Oswald as one of his workers. Baker glared for a moment longer, then turned back to the stairs and resumed his climb with Truly following him. They hurried up to the roof where they found no one.

Immediately after Baker and Truly continued up the stairwell, Oswald left the building. He had almost been caught because he had moved slower than Wallace and the others. However, Oswald also got away in the confusion. Once on Elm Street, Oswald took a bus, but got off when traffic grid-locked. He walked to a nearby cab stand, and the taxi drove him to an intersection near his boarding house in southwest Dallas.

Walking the block, he got the pistol he was supposed to have on the 6th floor, left the house and started walking, apparently with no specific objective. Officer J D Tippit was on patrol and stopped Oswald. Almost immediately, he shot and killed the policeman.

Still on foot, he escaped to the nearby Texas Theater. There, several police officers moved in to apprehend Oswald after being led to him by a shoe-store manager named Johnny Brewer. Oswald tried to shoot it out, but officer M N "Nick" McDonald grabbed the gun, preventing it from firing. Oswald struggled with McDonald while being arrested, received bruises to his face during the fight before being taken to the Dallas city jail. When Oswald was finally subdued, he blurted out, "Well, it's all over now."

During the operation, the CIA upper echelon sequestered themselves in an office complex, surrounded by electronic equipment. With the aid of walkie-talkies, the men were able to secure their firing positions and learn of Oswald's whereabouts immediately following the hit.

The CIA operatives directing the assassination via walkie-talkies were ensconced at the offices of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall which was being used by the conspirators as their operation headquarters for the assassination. The proprietors did not know they were being used in this fashion.

BACKGROUND ON THE WALKIE-TALKIES: Robert Morrow was an electronics engineer, a senior agent with the CIA from 1959 - 1964 and was a "special problem solver" for the agency as well. His expertise was in electronics and special technical projects which the CIA took note of; the CIA soon recruited him for special projects and one of these "special" projects involved him in the JFK assassination.

Morrow supplied the transceivers [walkie-talkies] that were NOT detectable by any communication device on the market. Morrow complied with the CIA request by modifying Motorola-made units that required an antenna several feet high. Morrow solved the problem by strapping a wire to the intended user's leg, concealed under the trousers.

This combination of walkie-talkies and a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle suspiciously appeared at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963. Morrow wrote that after the assassination, he was looking at photographs taken at Dealey Plaza and saw one of "his" walkie-talkies in the pocket of a man standing on Elm Street near the spot where Kennedy was shot! Three of the rifles that Morrow purchased, along with the walkie-talkies, were picked up by David Ferrie and flown to New Orleans.

[Recall that Lee Bowers, the railway tower switchman, testified to the Warren Commission that he observed strange people driving in the area BEHIND the picket fence and saw one of them using a WALKIE-TALKIE.]

JFK ASSASSINATION FLASH POINT: WHAT WAS LYNDON JOHNSON DOING AT THE
EXACT MOMENT JFK WAS BEING A MURDERED?

WHAT was LBJ actually doing at the time of the assassination in the trailing car in the motorcade? According to Johnson's motorcade seatmate, Democratic Senator Ralph Yarborough (who smelled gun powder near the grassy knoll), at the EXACT MOMENT of the assassination, Johnson had his ear up against a small WALKIE-TALKIE held over the back seat listening to the device which was "turned down real low."

It was obviously difficult for the Vice President to wave and smile at crowds in the Presidential motorcade when he was leaning up against and listening to a small walkie-talkie!

As a footnote, Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall did top-secret map work for the military. Lee Harvey Oswald actually worked there for a while after his retrieval from the Soviet Union as an ALLEGED defector, which seems strange, because that work required a security classification and proven LOYALTY to the United States ... unless they knew Oswald was all right.

To eliminate Oswald, the CIA had selected Dallas police officers Roscoe White and J D Tippit, who both -- like Richard Cain, who'd served in the Chicago Sheriff's Dept -- held positions in law enforcement, on the Dallas police force. Under the guise of self-defense and in the line of duty, they were to murder the "lone gunman." However, Tippit had wavered, allowing Oswald to escape via taxi. Thus, Roscoe White had been forced to kill his partner, J D Tippit. [DISPUTE: Did Oswald or White kill J D Tippit?]

SAM GIANCANA: "Probably the only real screw-up in the whole goddamned deal. And the rest is history. For once, we didn't have to worry about J Edgar Hoover.... He hated the Kennedys as much as anybody and he wasn't about to help Bobby find his brother's killers. He buried his head in the sand, covered up anything and everything his 'Boy Scouts' found."

The real, untold story is that when Roscoe White asked J D Tippit to drive Oswald to Redbird Airport for the escape, Tippit balked, suspecting that they were involved in the assassination he had just heard about, and White had to shoot him right then. Oswald ran away.

There is a report that an extra police shirt was found in the backseat of Tippit's car, and it can be surmised that this belonged to Roscoe White, who changed his clothes there. It is also thought that Tippit's car was the one stopped at Oswald's house and beeped, and then picked him up just down the street.

FOOTNOTE TO HISTORY: Roscoe and Geneva White lived cater-corner to the Tippits after the assassination. The Whites knew the Tippits very well, and that after Tippit was killed, his family was well taken care of by those in the conspiracy.

Geneva White also described going to the rifle range near their house with her husband, Roscoe, and Lee Harvey Oswald, and said that Oswald was a real BAD shot. She said he was innocent and did NOT shoot Kennedy.

BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION

In early spring of 1963, when the decision was made by LBJ's attorney Edward Clark and his CIA associates and contacts to finalize plans for their elimination of President Kennedy, Oswald was the natural choice as a fall guy.

"They'd already laid the groundwork to make him look like a Commie nut, by goin' to Russia and with all of that pro-Castro shit. He was perfect... he acted like a Commie ... he smelled like a Commie ... so they figured it would be NO problem to convince people he WAS a Commie."

Mobster Sam Giancana said the entire conspiracy went "right up to the top of the CIA." He claimed that some of its former and present leaders were involved, as well as a "half-a-dozen fanatical right-wing Texans, Vice President LYNDON JOHNSON, and the Bay of Pigs Action Officer under Eisenhower, Richard Nixon."

For all of its apparent simplicity, the Dallas assassination had taken months to mastermind by LBJ's attorney, Edward Clark and his CIA counterparts [William K Harvey]; dozens of men were involved and the hit had been planned for several cities -- Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles and Dallas.

But ultimately, President Kennedy had been lured to Dallas by LBJ, the city affording the best opportunity for a successful assassination. According to Giancana: "Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson knew about the whole damned thing," having met with him several times in Dallas immediately prior to the assassination.

SAM GIANCANA: "The politicians [LBJ and Clark] and the CIA made it real simple. We'd each provide men for the hit ... I'd oversee the Outfit [Mafia] side of things and throw in Jack Ruby and some extra backup and the CIA would put their own guys in to take care of the rest."

The nuts-and-bolts planning had involved some of the top people on the Dallas police force; most conveniently the mayor, Earle Cabell, was the BROTHER of former CIA deputy director Charles Cabell. As the man responsible for citywide security, the mayor provided the police protection for the presidential motorcade.

Giancana grinned: "They made sure it was so loose down there [Dealey Plaza] on the day of the hit, shit, a 4-year-old could've nailed Jack Kennedy

 

[THE KOD]

IS THE U.S. RUN BY A "SHADOW GOVERNMENT?"

The Chairman of the Assassinations Committee, Congressman Henry Gonzalez, said this about the "real power" base in Washington D.C.: "We're just little people here. We haven't got any power."

The REAL power rests with the shadow government, a far right-wing apparatus based along the San Diego-Vegas-Dallas-New Orleans-Miami axis, which had a death grip on the heart of Washington, through Langley, VA, where the headquarters of the CIA is located.

"Some people think that the CIA took over [after the Kennedy assassination], that they are the REAL government. There's a lot of folks here who would agree with that," Gonzalez commented. Gonzalez had been with President Kennedy when he died and he knew the TRUTH.

When Watergate burglar Virgilio Gonzalez got caught in the Watergate Hotel, he wrote out very long affidavit, which Jim Hougan discusses in his milestone espionage book, "SPOOKS."

"If the Gonzalez affidavit is to be believed, the United States is a POLICE STATE run by a dangerous consortium of CIA officers, private intelligence agencies and White House entrepreneurs."

Neil Sheehan wrote in the New York Times after reading the Pentagon Papers that there was an "inner government" in the United States, "a centralized state, far more powerful than anything else, for whom the enemy is not simply the Communists, but everything else, its own press, its own judiciary, its own Congress, foreign and friendly governments --all these are potentially antagonistic. It had survived and perpetuated itself."

Sheehan continued: "Often using the issue of anti-Communism as a weapon against the other branches of government and the press, and finally, it does NOT function necessarily for the benefit of the Republic, but rather for its own ends, its own perpetuation; it has its own codes which are quite different from public codes. Secrecy was a way of protecting itself, not so much from threats by foreign governments, but from DETECTION FROM ITS OWN POPULATION on charges of its own competence and wisdom."

CONCLUSION / JFK ASSASSINATION AFTERMATH

The "right hand man" theory is a proven historical FACT in assassinations of world leaders. Beginning the day of Kennedy's murder, the right hand man assassination theory SHOULD have been considered as one of the most PROBABLE explanations for the crime.

MANY Americans surely thought about Johnson's possible involvement at the time of Kennedy's death, but no one dared publicly to voice the thought. Few people were strong enough to face the risk of public ridicule or even death to bring public and criminal investigative attention to this possibility.

On a practical level, America was in the midst of a cold war and American politicians did not want to present to the rest of the world the possibility that a bloody political coup could and DID HAPPEN in the land of the "free" and home of the "brave."

For all of these reasons, the public stood by and allowed the assassination evidence to be SEIZED and the investigation to be CONTROLLED by the prime suspect, Lyndon Baines Johnson. And while Americans sat in silence, many Europeans who were independently observing the same situation -- but from the distance of their shores --openly noted the travesty occurring in our land and saw America for what it REALLY was: NO better than a banana republic!

HOW could an entire nation have operated without a conscience? Out of fear, self-preservation, and national pride, obvious injustices and tyrannical acts were overlooked based on the false hope that what was in fact occurring, was not really happening, but only being perceived improperly.

Regardless of the final truth as to the Kennedy assassination, Americans allowed one man to seize power and do as he pleased. Americans allowed one man who was a criminal suspect with a strong motive, seize ALL of the assassination evidence and supply the world with his personally selected Commission's solution to the crime of the century.

To simply state this fact is to indict us all. Because of our collected failure to object, the full, complete truth may NEVER be known. And the plain truth is that America's continuing fascination with Kennedy's death relates more directly to our own COLLECTED GUILT and FAILURE as a society than it does with one man's death.

This is proven time and again when a new Kennedy assassination book surfaces proposing either a new assassination theory or a new piece of evidence. In such instances, the public clamors for the information hoping to make up for what American silence created in the first place.

Once the press was trapped into accepting the findings of the commission, and failing to investigate the crime for themselves, the media forever after had to ridicule and humiliate those who continued to look into the murder and not accept the official story.

To end this practice and begin filling in the black hole of mystery surrounding the assassination, America must first accept some guilt for its silence. Then and only then can the big picture be established. If one examines the big picture, Johnson was the puppeteer who touched and CONTROLLED EVERYTHING.

And while assassination theorists have written volumes about unexplainable events, none of this should be considered unusual when Johnson was involved. The reality is that the "Texas connection" begins and ends with Lyndon B Johnson.

It was Johnson, as America's new president, who had the power to order the seizure and even the DESTRUCTION of evidence [such as to the Lincoln Continental Kennedy was riding in which was completely refurbished thereby destroying critical evidence] by government agencies. Lyndon Johnson's final aspect of control began on November 26, 1963 when he ordered the seizure of assassination evidence and it will not end until 2039 when the sealed evidence is finally released.

The massive abuse of power by LBJ and Hoover that surrounded the assassination of President Kennedy demands action. Abuses occurred both before November 22, 1963, in planning and carrying out the crime, and then afterward, in failing to UNCOVER what really happened.

DISCLOSURE alone will not provide the justice owed to John F Kennedy. We need to relegate Lyndon Johnson to the position he deserves in history... a presidential assassin guilty of a "right-hand man" assassination.

For too long, many researchers have KNOWN Lyndon Johnson was behind the conspiracy. No one has been able to say it. Stated simply, LBJ killed JFK.

Surprisingly, the Dallas Police Dept still carries the assassination as an open crime. The Dept of Justice has an open file on the case, and the FBI routinely reviews new disclosures.

Perhaps, as we render a collective judgment on this horrific event, we need to see both this subconscious determinant in ourselves and the need for independent judges.

More in point, in Shakespeare's HAMLET, actors and audiences are always left wondering why Hamlet delayed so long in seeking the justice he knew he would have to find. A subconscious reluctance to upset the government may have been one consideration. After all, in the final act, all the key players are dead. Perhaps Hamlet delayed because he knew his necessary actions would destroy not only his family, but also his nation.

We as a nation may have a similar reluctance to face the FACT of the conspiracy just because we KNOW what it means to our republic: That we're in fact no better than a banana republic and that's exactly what we became on that fateful day and in the years that passed....

If we face up to what REALLY happened, we are very clearly reaffirming the spirit of our democracy. In so doing, we strengthen our government and ourselves in ways yet to be seen. In that same faith in our nation, we know it will be for the better. With closure, we will be stronger.

Abraham Lincoln said it best: "NO man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent."

Lyndon Baines Johnson did NOT have the nation's consent to govern them on November 22, 1963....

OSWALD POST-JFK ASSASSINATION LITTLE-KNOWN FACTOID: Of added special interest was Oswald's request FOR A LAWYER SPECIALIZING IN DEFENDING CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY CASES with that attorney being John J Abt of New York City, and his communication to him and the outside world via the media that: "I am a patsy!"

Abt was noted for his defense of Smith Act violators in the late 1940s and '50s. Oswald used a Dallas Police Dept pay phone to call Abt's office collect, but his call was refused; Abt was out of town for the weekend.

The mere fact that Oswald would specifically ask for this TYPE of attorney suggests that Oswald already knew that he had been set up as the "fall guy" (patsy) and would require someone specializing in criminal conspiracy cases brought by the U.S. government to effectively defend him.

WHO REALLY WAS LEE HARVEY OSWALD: CIA AGENT, COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZER,
MAFIA CONTRACT AGENT, 'LONE NUT' OR TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT?!

The "alleged lone gunman," Lee Harvey Oswald, like Ruby, had ties to both the CIA and the Mafia. Oswald had been connected to the New Orleans Mob from the time he was born; his uncle was a Marcello lieutenant who had exerted a powerful influence over the fatherless boy.

Early in life, Oswald had formed a powerful alliance with the U.S. intelligence community. First, as an impressionable young man during a stint in the Civil Air Patrol with homosexual CIA operative and Mafia smuggling pilot David Ferrie. And later, Oswald attended a series of intensive intelligence training sessions run by the Office of Naval Intelligence in a top secret Japanese spy base. The short of it was that Lee Harvey OSWALD WAS A CIA AGENT.

Oswald had been a spy for the U.S. government in the Soviet Union, and had been trained to speak fluent Russian. He was NOT a Castro sympathizer nor a Communist at all, as the misinformation that spewed forth from government agencies in the wake of the assassination that the public believed.

In truth, "Lee Harvey Oswald was a right-wing supporter of the 'Kill Castro, Bay of Pigs Camp' ... CIA all the way." After serving the CIA and its military intelligence division in the Soviet Union, Oswald had returned to work at a company involved in top security projects for the U.S. government [Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall].

Once back in New Orleans with his Russian wife, Marina, he was directed by the CIA to a man well-known in intelligence circles, former Chicago FBI agent and Commie-buster Buy Banister. Contrary to popular opinion and public misperception, Oswald had been a very bright kid. His downfall had been unyielding PATRIOTISM and malleability; he was EASILY MANIPULATED.
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[MadJack]

thanks for clearing that up, scott.

 

[THE KOD]

I have never read alot of that stuff.

I thought I had followed it closer than that.

The one thing that really stands out for me is that when I read that Oswald shot Officer Tippit on the street, it was like a sure guilty plea to me right there.

But when they say that Tippet was working for the gov assigned to shut Oswald up, it sheds a whole differant light on things for me.

just sayin

 

[MadJack]

how old were you and where were you when jfk was shot?

i was in 3rd grade class (i even remember where i was sitting and the announcement) and they let school out as soon as the news hit.

 

[THE KOD]

I think I was in the fifth grade.

the big thing for me was that we went through the Cuban missle crisis and the kids were all saying it would be the end of the world and prepare to die.

The teachers told us to crouch under our desks when the missles struck. We actually practised getting under our desks in the fetal position. I layed there quietly for a long time, almost expecting to see the white flash we had been
warned about.

Then JFK , stepped into the picture and dealt with Kruschev in a stern and wonderfull way like the President of the US should. The Soviets took the nuclear missles out of Cuba and the Crisis was averted and we never went under our desks again.
We were not going to die afterall.


JFK saved the world in my eyes.

Then that fateful day. I was in a study hall watching some type of space mission that was going on. We were in the auditorium and I was sitting in the gym on the floor next to Mary Lou McKeon. My girlfriend.

All the teachers started crying. Whats wrong ?

Whats wrong. The lights came on. We all stood up.

The President has been shot in Dallas.
I remember the words ringing in my ears.
The President has been shot !

 

[MadJack]

damn, i didn't know you were older than me. i thought only DJV was older than me at mj's

in our school, we had bomb scares (practice) where we would go out in the hallway and get into the fetal position against the wall in the hall.

......then off to baseball practice.

now, look how far we've come

 

[TonyTT]

EXCELLENT write up Scott! That clears up quite a few loose ends in my decades long study of the JFK assassination. I feel that's the closest thing to the truth that we'll ever see.
Now, I hope to live long enough to get the REAL story on 9-11.

 

[vinnie]

Researchers challenge Kennedy lone gunman theory By David Morgan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Bullet analysis used to justify the lone assassin theory behind President John F. Kennedy's assassination is based on flawed evidence, according to a team of researchers including a former top FBI scientist.


Writing in the Annals of Applied Statistics, the researchers urged a reexamination of bullet fragments from the 1963 shooting in Dallas to confirm the number of bullets that struck Kennedy.

Official investigations during the 1960s concluded that Kennedy was hit by two bullets fired by Lee Harvey Oswald.

But the researchers, including former FBI lab metallurgist William Tobin, said new chemical and statistical analyses of bullets from the same batch used by Oswald suggest that more than two bullets could have struck the president.

"Evidence used to rule out a second assassin is fundamentally flawed," the researchers said in their article.

"If the assassination (bullet) fragments are derived from three or more separate bullets, then a second assassin is likely."

The Kennedy assassination set off a whirlwind of theories about who killed the 46-year-old president.

The President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, known unofficially as the Warren Commission, concluded in 1964 that Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, fired three shots, one of which missed the president's car. There have been many challenges to its conclusions over the years.

The House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations concluded that Oswald was probably part of a conspiracy that could have included a second gunman who fired but missed Kennedy.

The panel's supporting evidence was a bullet analysis that said fragments collected from the site were too similar to be from more than two slugs.

But the latest report found that many bullets from the same batch used by Oswald had a similar composition.

"Further, we found that one of the thirty bullets analyzed in our study also compositionally matched one of the fragments from the assassination," the article said.

"This finding means that the bullet fragments from the assassination that match could have come from three or more separate bullets."

 

[Agent 0659]

Sam Giancana killed Kennedy. All the names are even listed in this book, how much they are paid, the plan, etc.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=9780446364126&z=y