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300% more? not really. it's like buying a Yugo and saying why should i buy a Mercedes if my Yugo gets me around just the same. You get what you pay for.
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Well, when I say 300% I was specifically referring to the MacBook Pro that is $1,499 on the Apple site. I bought my laptop a few years ago for 1/3 of that price, and my computer has a bigger monitor than that Pro does. I do realize there are cheaper Macs; I was just using that one as an example. And in no way am I saying my laptop is better -- I have no doubt that it isn't. But 3x the price is a huge difference to me.

I'm not doubting that Macs are better computers; I'm just wondering if they are so much better as to justify the price difference. I also wonder if Apple sets the price a bit higher than they need to simply because they know their customers are very brand-loyal.

Thanks for the info -- you definitely touched on some of the things I had questions on.
 
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A couple things.....

Life will be easier with a Mac.

There aren't any widespread viruses written for Mac based computers - ZERO. (That may change someday - but for now - ZERO)
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one of our Mac's today was infected with spyware/malware they were using safari for a browser

Spyware: Antivirus XP 2010 was the malware
 
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Seriously - never had a problem?

I am curious to know if you do more than surf the web and check e-mail......?......
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Not much else. I use Word and Excel a bit, but mostly use my home computer for Internet/e-mail purposes.
 
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Oh. This would explain why you haven't had any trouble.
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I always thought a lot of the issues with PCs were Web-related (e.g. viruses, etc.)? What are the common problems that PCs run into? I'm far from an IT guy so I genuinely don't know...
 
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Glenn Quagmire said:
I always thought a lot of the issues with PCs were Web-related (e.g. viruses, etc.)? What are the common problems that PCs run into? I'm far from an IT guy so I genuinely don't know...
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PC's run on a complex OS and when you install software - it has to put a lot of things in different places for it to run correctly. This is why it takes a long time to install something - with a Mac, it takes seconds as it doesn't have to "unpack" a lot of shit - when you run a program on a MAC - it runs fast and smooth vs. a PC it takes a while to boot up as it has to gather all the shit from all the places it needs to put all the info.

Many people notice that from the first time they boot up their PC - it takes seconds - as does a mac. After about a year - the boot up process takes longer. Programs also take longer to open and sometimes windows will just drop the ball and wander off.

PC?s come with so much crap you will never use. You can try to remove much of it, but many times this creates errors and bizarre messages, setting you up for problems in the future. Which can screw everything up, and often does.

Not to mention you can't completely remove Internet Explorer - go on, try it!
(You might say - why would I want to get rid of it? If this is the case, you should experience Google Chrome or even Firefox. IE blows!)
 
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PC's run on a complex OS and when you install software - it has to put a lot of things in different places for it to run correctly. This is why it takes a long time to install something - with a Mac, it takes seconds as it doesn't have to "unpack" a lot of shit - when you run a program on a MAC - it runs fast and smooth vs. a PC it takes a while to boot up as it has to gather all the shit from all the places it needs to put all the info.

Many people notice that from the first time they boot up their PC - it takes seconds - as does a mac. After about a year - the boot up process takes longer. Programs also take longer to open and sometimes windows will just drop the ball and wander off.

PC?s come with so much crap you will never use. You can try to remove much of it, but many times this creates errors and bizarre messages, setting you up for problems in the future. Which can screw everything up, and often does.

Not to mention you can't completely remove Internet Explorer - go on, try it!
(You might say - why would I want to get rid of it? If this is the case, you should experience Google Chrome or even Firefox. IE blows!)
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Thanks for the knowledge, Joker. Who says you can't learn anything at MadJack's?!

Yeah, I use Firefox and have tried to completely uninstall IE before and wasn't able to. At first I thought I was just being a dipshit and doing something wrong (which is usually the case), but in this instance it wasn't me. I'm pretty sure that alarms go off at Bill's house when you try to uninstall IE...
 
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Glenn Quagmire said:
Well, when I say 300% I was specifically referring to the MacBook Pro that is $1,499 on the Apple site. I bought my laptop a few years ago for 1/3 of that price, and my computer has a bigger monitor than that Pro does. I do realize there are cheaper Macs; I was just using that one as an example. And in no way am I saying my laptop is better -- I have no doubt that it isn't. But 3x the price is a huge difference to me.

I'm not doubting that Macs are better computers; I'm just wondering if they are so much better as to justify the price difference. I also wonder if Apple sets the price a bit higher than they need to simply because they know their customers are very brand-loyal.

Thanks for the info -- you definitely touched on some of the things I had questions on.
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With all due respect - and I know what you are saying - comparing the new MacBook Pro to a generic PC from years ago is comparing two very different animals. For instance, I just purchased a regular MacBook with Parallels software and Windows XP installed for $1200 and it is has huge storage capabilities, is lightning fast, can run any Mac OR PC program - all at the same time, and go back and forth seamlessly. I would assume my computer is much bigger, faster, stronger than yours - and it allows me to use both formats seamlessly and at the same time. There's NO BS with the Mac, and it will always run just as fast and strong as when you first get the computer - very much unlike a PC.

NO comparison, IMO. It's twice the computer, in most respects - so the cost SHOULD be higher.
 
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With all due respect - and I know what you are saying - comparing the new MacBook Pro to a generic PC from years ago is comparing two very different animals. For instance, I just purchased a regular MacBook with Parallels software and Windows XP installed for $1200 and it is has huge storage capabilities, is lightning fast, can run any Mac OR PC program - all at the same time, and go back and forth seamlessly. I would assume my computer is much bigger, faster, stronger than yours - and it allows me to use both formats seamlessly and at the same time. There's NO BS with the Mac, and it will always run just as fast and strong as when you first get the computer - very much unlike a PC.

NO comparison, IMO. It's twice the computer, in most respects - so the cost SHOULD be higher.
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Well said.
 
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Chadman said:
With all due respect - and I know what you are saying - comparing the new MacBook Pro to a generic PC from years ago is comparing two very different animals. For instance, I just purchased a regular MacBook with Parallels software and Windows XP installed for $1200 and it is has huge storage capabilities, is lightning fast, can run any Mac OR PC program - all at the same time, and go back and forth seamlessly. I would assume my computer is much bigger, faster, stronger than yours - and it allows me to use both formats seamlessly and at the same time. There's NO BS with the Mac, and it will always run just as fast and strong as when you first get the computer - very much unlike a PC.

NO comparison, IMO. It's twice the computer, in most respects - so the cost SHOULD be higher.
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Absolutely it should cost more. I don't deny that for a second. I guess my point is this -- I have no problem paying more for quality. I'm not a bargain-basement shopper by any means. In fact, I can't remember the last time I bought something just because it was the cheapest of its kind. But having said all that, there is a limit to how much more I'm willing to pay for quality. When you start talking about 2 - 3x the money, that seems a bit steep to me. And as I said before, there isn't a whole lot to my computer usage, so that also factors into my decision.

Again, not saying Macs aren't better or that they shouldn't cost more, I just don't know if they're worth the extra money for me, personally.
 
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Glenn, I understand, and I also understand the cost/value perspective. Sounds like you're happy with what you have, and that's all that matters.
 
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Glenn, I understand, and I also understand the cost/value perspective. Sounds like you're happy with what you have, and that's all that matters.
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One thing I will say is that this thread has definitely made me more curious. I always appreciate dissenting viewpoints because, in my opinion, it's one of the best ways to learn. And God knows I need all the help I can get. :mj07:

I may be a little biased because the last time I used a Mac I didn't like the format at all, but that was MANY years ago. At the very least, I think I will try to get some more hands-on experience and see if I like them.

Thanks again for the info in this thread fellas...
 
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