Transgenders to use public restrooms / locker rooms of the opposite sex

[THE KOD]

This one has no penis. Sorry, I'm not comfortable with him being alone in the bathroom with my granddaughter.

I'm sure nothing is going to happen, considering who it is, but I'll have my granddaughter wait or tell him to hold up.

jack


how about if Cher went in with her / him ?


:shrug:

 

[gardenweasel]

FDC, we are friends and all, but it amazes me how u NEVER have viewpoint that isn't consistent with the most left of the liberals. When ur daughter was a young teenager, and U were in a public place, and nature called, I can guarantee u would have had a shit fit and probably busted in that bathroom had a man walked in there. If u say u wouldn't have, U are not telling the truth.

everybody`s entrenched in their own personal ideologies......it`s great to have civil discussions...sometimes people take differences of opinion way too personally(myseld included)....many of us have been in here together for over a decade...... so it`s just a difference of opinion...not personal...it`s all good...

 

[HankWilliamsJr]

hank has to use the can but is very confused

:scared:scared:scared

 

[ClevelandSteamers]

:idea:

Its simple. You have a dick you go to the mens room. I do not care how you are dressed. You have a vagina girls room. Unreal

Jaxx sums it up pretty easily. No need to discuss and debate.

 

[theGibber1]

Didn't this experiment fail miserablely in Toronto in less than a month after dudes were caught taking pictures with their phones on multiple occasions???

You give perverts an inch and they will take a mile...


As someone with two daughters I believe this puts them at risk even if it's a small one.

Anyway I believe the risk is higher than the percentage of transgender people which is what less than .05 % percent of the population? I believe the perverts waaaaaay outnumber the trannys So for me if you got a dick you piss in the boys room. Sorry for your hurt feelings.

 

[airportis]

Of course I do. They're used for different things. However both are points of use for children. Opportunity doesn't make the mentally ill. It as simple as that. Making the pro golf tour free to spectators won't increase the number of professional golfers. That's just not how it works. If you believe that opening bathrooms to transgender people will increase the number of pedophiles, well, you're just not paying attention. First of all the majority of molestations are committed by family or friends. Secondly, public bathrooms are generally one way in and one way out. The chance that the local pedophile will be hanging at the mall bathroom or busy facility is almost nil. If at a rest stop, I always accompanied my daughter in the men's room with me or knocked and did a walk-through of the women's first.
Having your kids be altar boys and girls and churches increases the frequency of molestation yet here we are.
In my opinion, fear stems from that which we don't understand. Being transexual or gay is not a mental illness and there is absolutely no correlation between the two. You can understand that as well I'm sure..

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this is a terrible analogy and not even the point anyone here is arguing.

everyone is up in arms, and rightfully so, that it gives perverts and pedophiles the opportunity to commit gross acts. and it does. there isn't any denying that.

why open the door to potentially put people and children into real danger?

I'm not seeing anything to gain here other than the further pussification of society. because we don't want to hurt someones feelings telling them they cant piss in the womens room because they have a dick.

ridiculous.

 

[Penguinfan]

Opportunity doesn't make the mentally ill.

Opportunity may not make one mentally ill, but opportunity is the last thing I want when child predators are involved.

Do you lock your doors when you leave the house or park your car? If you do, why? The locks won't keep out a thief that wants in if they want in bad enough but they will keep out the casual thief so you lock the door so as not to provide the easy opportunity. Get it?

Look, I know in your world left is right, the further left the better even if it's so far left it's out of bounds. Your desire to live in a world without rules is amazing. Hopefully, you think about the consequences of such a world.

 

[Dead Money]

Common Sense has gone out the window at an alarming rate in the last 15 years.

Why do we have to appease fringe lifestyle groups to the degree of legislation?

If your original plumbing says urinal....do urinal.
If your original plumbing says sit on toilet or bidet....do it.

Seems pretty simple to me.....When Bruce Jenner pops
a child out, SHE will have total credibility...:SIB

 

[fatdaddycool]

Yet none of you are protesting altar boys. Odd if you ask me.

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[william13]

Yet none of you are protesting altar boys. Odd if you ask me.

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:shrug:

 

[Penguinfan]

Yet none of you are protesting altar boys. Odd if you ask me.

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I fail to understand the reference.

 

[badboy]

I fail to understand the reference.

He out of ammo //

 

[fatdaddycool]

You're implying that I at some point sided with the mandate one way or the other, which I clearly stated early on that it made no difference to me.
What I'm debating is the correlation you are inferring between it an increased chance of child molestation. There's no concrete evidence to confirm the assertion, so I don't just assume it to be true. I was always viligant with my daughter and still am with my daughter and grandkids. I'm my opinion, being transgender, gay, lesbian, whatever doesn't make you a pervert or a pederast. To be quite honest, I'd have zero issues with having any transgender person I knew, I don't know any but I trust my judgement, chaperone my daughter to the women's room.
I'm sorry you disagree or are amazed by my views, but I do not follow any ideologies designated by any term or organization.

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[fatdaddycool]

He out of ammo //

Not at all. The reference is pretty clear.

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[Amethyest]

A great read

A great read

You're implying that I at some point sided with the mandate one way or the other, which I clearly stated early on that it made no difference to me.
What I'm debating is the correlation you are inferring between it an increased chance of child molestation. There's no concrete evidence to confirm the assertion, so I don't just assume it to be true. I was always viligant with my daughter and still am with my daughter and grandkids. I'm my opinion, being transgender, gay, lesbian, whatever doesn't make you a pervert or a pederast. To be quite honest, I'd have zero issues with having any transgender person I knew, I don't know any but I trust my judgement, chaperone my daughter to the women's room.
I'm sorry you disagree or are amazed by my views, but I do not follow any ideologies designated by any term or organization.

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Far more should have these views in my opinion....:0074



Very very nice....:0008 :toast:

 

[Penguinfan]

You're implying that I at some point sided with the mandate one way or the other, which I clearly stated early on that it made no difference to me.
What I'm debating is the correlation you are inferring between it an increased chance of child molestation. There's no concrete evidence to confirm the assertion, so I don't just assume it to be true. I was always viligant with my daughter and still am with my daughter and grandkids. I'm my opinion, being transgender, gay, lesbian, whatever doesn't make you a pervert or a pederast. To be quite honest, I'd have zero issues with having any transgender person I knew, I don't know any but I trust my judgement, chaperone my daughter to the women's room.
I'm sorry you disagree or are amazed by my views, but I do not follow any ideologies designated by any term or organization.

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You're fighting the wrong fight. I, and I don't think anyone here has a problem with transgender individuals. That was never the point.

 

[fatdaddycool]

Opportunity may not make one mentally ill, but opportunity is the last thing I want when child predators are involved.

Do you lock your doors when you leave the house or park your car? If you do, why? The locks won't keep out a thief that wants in if they want in bad enough but they will keep out the casual thief so you lock the door so as not to provide the easy opportunity. Get it?

Look, I know in your world left is right, the further left the better even if it's so far left it's out of bounds. Your desire to live in a world without rules is amazing. Hopefully, you think about the consequences of such a world.

I'm not as far left as you think pengy. I am what I would consider a compassionate person and try not to be judgemental and rely heavily on physical truths. I don't know if pedophilia is more common among trans people but I'm guessing it's not. It's certainly not something I'm willing to acquiesce to sans any real knowledge of. I also don't know what it's like to identify yourself as a woman when born a boy. It's not my place to make assumptions or speculate either. My guess is the majority of transgender people have no issue using the men's room. Add a matter of fact, I'd be more willing to believe that it's the fear of violence transpeople may suffer walking into the drive in bathroom that drives the legislation

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[badboy]

You're fighting the wrong fight. I, and I don't think anyone here has a problem with transgender individuals. That was never the point.

Right on bro ///

 

[fatdaddycool]

I'm sorry, I thought the fact that transgender people was in the subject line that it has something to do with the subject

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[shawn555]

This whole thread sucks.

And fuck you hedge.