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I think joseph comments pretty much sum up what the rest of country think about the pac 10;
complete joke of a conference with patsy schedules :142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao:
 

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Put Oklahoma in the Pac 10 and they can sleepwalk their way to the conference championship like USC does. Get a life scott
 

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You can sit there and talk about how tough UTEP is, or Northern Arizona, or New Mexico State, or Indiana, or Idaho, or San Diego State, or Colorado, or Northwestern, or Illinois, or Virginia Tech the PAC 10 plays; but the actual FACTS of the matter are completely known while you say those are tougher than the SEC plays - looking at PART OF THE PICTURE when the WHOLE PICTURE IS COMPLETELY KNOWN.

2003-2004 PAC 10 Official Final BCS Strengths of Schedules (LINK provided at the beginning of this Post.) shows that IN FACT, the PAC 10 had 2 of the toughest Top 24 Strength of Schedules, while the SEC had 7 of the toughest Top 22 Strength of Schedules in the nation.

LSU was just one of 6 SEC teams with a tougher Strength of Schedule IN FACT than Southern Cal at SOS # 13 last year for LSU, which is why the SEC LSU played in the National Championship Game and why of course Southern Cal with SOS worse than 6 of the SEC teams did NOT as we all recall your Southern Cal opponents on your ENTIRE SCHEDULE IN FACT : # 76 Brigham Young 4-8, # 50 Hawaii, # 35 Berkeley who you LOST to, # 69 Arizona State 4-7, # 67 Stanford 4-7, # 47 Notre Dame 5-7, # 51 Washington without a winning record EITHER, # 88 Arizona 2-10, # 59 UCLA also with a LOSING RECORD, and # 31 Oregon State. And, you did NOT even play # 37 Oregon.

The ENTIRE PAC 10 was NOT RANKED with but 2 teams of the ENTIRE PAC 10 CONFERENCE ranked in the Top 30 of the Final Official BCS Rankings (LINK PROVIDED IN THIS POST AT THE END.), while the SEC had by DIRECT COMPARISON 7 of the Top 27 Teams in the Final Official BCS Rankings.

LINK AT END OF THIS POST :

2 of the Top 30 Final Official NCAA BCS Rankings Teams 2003-2004 PAC 10
7 of the Top 27 Final Official NCAA BCS Rankings Teams 2003-2004 SEC

FACTOID, according to THE Authority we ALL AGREED would DETERMINE this FACTOID - the BCS we ALL play for.

Southern Cal played 3 games the entire season against Top 30 teams in the Final Official BCS Rankings and you LOST a game. How did that make you BCS # 1 ? It did NOT; that is how it did ? NOT. LSU is # 1 in the Official NCAA BCS.

Try to put any SPIN on this you want, but the bottom line is that a schedule of whom it is you play in a season are ALL THE GAMES and are the teams IN FACT that you DO PLAY against. You just wish you could CHANGE THE SUBJECT to some subpart of that STINKY SCHEDULE Southern Cal played last year OR that STINKY SCHEDULE Southern Cal PLAYS YET AGAIN THIS SEASON.

In our conference, we have a Championship Game which we ALONE STARTED in college football here in the SEC, and that is a huge push for our TOP TEAM ? such as how LSU jumped past Southern Cal IN FACT because of the STINKY STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE Southern Cal played preventing it from EVEN BEING IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

It is ALSO how Oklahoma was in the BCS National Championship Game and NOT Southern Cal TOO; for they TOO played a tougher SOS than Southern Cal.

As we ALL RECALL completely.

And, you know it.

Now, this year, Southern Cal plays a season of # 64 Strength of Schedule according to THESE WebPages where you post this post right here where you are :

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2004/sos/index.htm

Who gives a crap about out of conference schedules (Like Southern Cal?s LAST YEAR or THIS YEAR are diddle-e-squat when they are NOT.), when IN CONFERENCE, you had IN FACT :

# 88 Arizona
# 69 Arizona State
# 67 Stanford
# 59 UCLA
# 51 Washington
# 37 Oregon
# 35 Berkeley
# 31 Oregon State

Your whole ENTIRE CONFERENCE SUCKED IN FACT. Not to mention Southern Cal?s out of conference slate of :

# 76 Brigham Young
# 50 Hawaii
# 47 Notre Dame

This is called a schedule for an ENTIRE SEASON and any spin you dream up will STILL LEAVE YOU ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN because of your STINKY STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE of THESE OPPONENTS of Southern Cal IN FACT.

Southern Cal played a lousy Strength of Schedule last season in total ? not some crap about the PAC 10 plays harder SOS than the SEC does out of conference ? just as Southern Cal is doing AGAIN NOW THIS UP-COMING SEASON.

While the SEC played IN FACT 7 of the Top 22 Strength of Schedules including out of conference and IN CONFERENCE according to the Final Official BCS SOS (YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SCHEDULE, AND NOT PART THEREOF ? ) and 6 SEC teams of which were IN FACT tougher schedules than Southern Cal's IN FACT was, the PAC 10 played 2 of the Top 24 Strength of Schedules by comparison.


2 of the Top 24 Strength of Schedules in Final BCS SOS Rankings PAC 10
7 of the Top 22 Strength of Schedules in Final BCS SOS Rankings SEC

FACTOID.

According to THE Authority on this TOPIC too - NOT YOU saying "The PAC 10 plays tougher out of conference schedules than The SEC does." PAC 10 SOS find IN FACT 6 SEC teams HARDER than Southern Cal's LAST YEAR and now this year

ALL 12 SEC TEAMS HAVE A TOUGHER SOS THAN SOUTHERN CAL IN FACT HAS 2004.

The ISSUE remains SOUTHERN CAL?S LOUSY # 64 Strength of Schedule NOW YET AGAIN THIS UPCOMING YEAR ? not that the SEC had IN FACT 7 of the Top 22 SOS last year while the PAC 10 had but 2 of the Top 24 SOS last year by direct comparison IN FACT.

Thank you for posting an ENTIRE THREAD ABOUT THIS throughout the summer while I worked, so that I could NOW reply to IT about the sorry SOS of Southern Cal LAST YEAR AND NOW AGAIN THIS YEAR.

EVERY YEAR because the PAC 10 SUCKS compared to the SEC, and YOU and EVERYONE ELSE with p-jealousy about The SEC, knows it.

You bring ALL THE WRONG ATTENTION TO SOUTHERN CAL trying to paint some FALSE IMPRESSION that the PAC 10 plays tougher SOS than the SEC as you did IN THAT SUBJECT POST YESTERDAY while I worked. The actual OFFICIAL NCAA BCS STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE RANKINGS (Link provided in this post at the beginning of this post.) are COMPLETELY KNOWN TO ALL.

Southern Cal can make NO CLAIM to being # 1 this up-coming year while you play but 1 Top 25 team, and it Berkeley who BEAT YOU LAST YEAR.


The SEC is the TOP CONFERENCE and NOT JUST because LSU is # 1 Official NCAA BCS National Champions, but because there were 7 SEC teams who played in fact according to the BCS the Top 22 Strength of Schedules while the PAC 10 had 2 of the top 24 SOS (LINK at begining of this post.) AND because the SEC had IN FACT 7 of the Top 27 in the Final Official NCAA BCS Rankings while the PAC 10 had but 2 of the Top 30.

Now, tell me AGAIN how Southern Cal is NOT PLAYING A STINKY STRENGTH of SCHEDULE for the 2nd YEAR IN A ROW NOW THIS YEAR ?

I MISSED THAT ?

http://www.geocities.com/rtell/bcsc.html
 

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i just went to the Ozarks, Osage Beach Missouri..
my parents have a lakehouse down there. awesome weather. it was nice to get away..

what happend with the Scott football challange???
 

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Nice write-up. I agree the SEC was a stronger conf. last season and I think the SEC will have a stronger conf. this coming season. I have publicly said this over and over so not sure why you brought up this argument. :confused:

LSU BCS SOS was #29 and USC's was #37. You wrongly quoted LSU having a #13 SOS. After week 7 in the BCS, USC had SOS #37 while LSU had SOS 54. If you take Jeff Sagarin SOS rankings, he had USC at #19 while LSU #28. Why the disparity? The BCS did not factor in LSU's win over a div. 2 opponent (s). Lucky LSU! Is Western Illinois 1aa team? Is Louisiana Monroe a 1aa team? Are both 1aa teams? Who really cares I am just glad the team I follow does play those mighty programs.

*You quoted pre-season SOS and I could care less. Mansa said it best.....

"SOS based on preseason rankings! You guys are really reaching now! Assigning pts to teams who haven't played a game yet, based on peoples opinions.

According to last yrs preseason rankings, Auburn should have been tougher for USC to beat on the road than Cal. We all know now, that was not true. Football is played on the field, not in the polls. Preseason or otherwise! Think about this, if Oregon St beats LSU in the first game of the season next yr, the Beavers still wont be ranked in either poll higher than the Tigers. Would LSU still be a better team? Would OSU's current ranking still bring down LSU's SOS?

Nice try fellas, but, I'm not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe!"

Try to put any SPIN on this you want, but the bottom line is that a schedule of whom it is you play in a season are ALL THE GAMES and are the teams IN FACT that you DO PLAY against.

I agree! :)

This is called a schedule for an ENTIRE SEASON and any spin you dream up will STILL LEAVE YOU ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN because of your STINKY STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE of THESE OPPONENTS of Southern Cal IN FACT.

WRONG! :nooo: BCS has now put less weight on SOS and more weight on the AP and Coaches Poll. From the top of my head I think it is 40-40-20. Something like that. Computer Polls only account for something like 20% which pretty much makes ZERO difference. Computer polls is what put LSU in the BCS title game and WSU losing at end of year and not giving USC QW pts. Plus the SEC Champ game gave LSU the boost to just finish .16 BCS pts ahead of USC in the final BCS standings. Not spinning anything. Those are the facts!

Thank you for posting an ENTIRE THREAD ABOUT THIS throughout the summer while I worked, so that I could NOW reply to IT about the sorry SOS of Southern Cal LAST YEAR AND NOW AGAIN THIS YEAR.

:142lmao: LSU finished 8 SOS slots higher than USC. USC had EVERYTHING go against them last year and LSU ONLY finished .16 BCS pts ahead of USC. In addition, the SEC was a stronger conf. than the Pac 10 last year and many felt it was a down year for the Pac 10. I then ask, why did LSU only finish 8 slots higher in terms of BCS SOS and only .16 BCS pts higher than USC??? Explain that? Thought SEC is SOOOO TOUGH? :rolleyes:

Southern Cal can make NO CLAIM to being # 1 this up-coming year while you play but 1 Top 25 team, and it Berkeley who BEAT YOU LAST YEAR.

Thats funny. Coaches poll gave USC 44 first place votes and I think that was the widest margin since 1999. Sports Illustrated just named USC pre-season #1 (although that supposedly is a jinx) and AP will have USC #1 as well. Looks like USC does not have to make a claim at being #1. They already are! :142lmao:

Now, tell me AGAIN how Southern Cal is NOT PLAYING A STINKY STRENGTH of SCHEDULE for the 2nd YEAR IN A ROW NOW THIS YEAR ?

I MISSED THAT ?

I guess you missed out on USC playing the #1 SOS 2 years ago. I would not call a #37 BCS SOS a stink schedule. Especially when you have 117 1a teams! USC's SOS was far lower than the median!
As for this upcoming season. I do not think USC's SOS will be too tough. Then again, who gives a crap about pre-season SOS. It is worthless. Last year 3 of USC's 4 OOC opponents were bowl teams the previous year. A lot can happen during the season that plays a part in SOS. I do agree that this year USC's SOS will not be very difficult. I also would not call it "stinky." You also must remember USC publicly wanted to schedule Miami, OU, and Michigan and all 3 declined to play USC. USC had 2 open dates and USC wanted 2 of those 3 teams. Looks like V-Tech and Colorado St. stepped up to the plate!

Do you like SEC factoids?

Amazing, but True SEC factoid

In 71 years of SEC football there have been 56 teams that have gone undefeated in conference play. That is an undefeated team per every 1.27 SEC seasons......and folks, that happens to be the highest rate of in-conference undefeated teams among all 1A conferences. Go ahead and research it. But the SEC conf. is so tough, right? :rolleyes:

So please, don't believe the silly 'MYTH' that the SEC is the toughest conference to run the table in.

Ya know why the SEC won't go on the road and play anybody ??????? Cause they get spanked.

That conference has built it's phony superiority
'myth' on home 'rent-a-win' games vs cupcakes.

Supporting factoid : Since 1998 the SEC is 10 -21 in regular season road games vs other BCS teams...and 4 ( 40%) of those road wins came at Indiana and Duke.

The SEC has averaged 1.66 road wins vs it's BCS peers per season since 1998. That's both cowardly and pitiful. SEC fans should never knock the PAC10. The P10 has bigger balls than the SEC.

When SEC teams go undefeated in conference play it's an indication that they are great teams.
When teams go undefeated in other conferences it's an indication of soft competition.

Good ol' SEC mythology :clap:
 
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his post made no sense at all....

Are you referring to my post or Master Cappers? I just re-read my post over and I think everything I posted is clearly spelled out and easy to understand. Maybe you were confused because I was replying to Master Cappers post so if you did not read his post then you might be in the dark about the intention of my post. Again, I was replying to Master Cappers post. If there is anything you did not understand or felt made no sense, please let me know and I can explain it to you. Majority of the substance inside my post was all factual data so I am not quite sure what didn't make sense to you?
 

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your post

what are you trying to prove???

that the SEC has a weak SOS??? you can come up with all the facts and figure's you want, in the end result the SEC is still gonna come out on top no matter how you look at it....


if their SOS is weak, fine so beat it, it doesn't much deter from the fact they can still put 4 teams in the top 25 every year and sometimes 5.
 

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Scott4USC said:
Some Pete Carroll quotes from Lindy's

USC's stated goals this season are "win the Pac 10 championship and the Rose Bowl"



This is not an uncommon quote from any/all of the pac 10 coaches. And I can't believe it when I see it! Maybe this is one of the reasons that the Pac 10 hasn't been represented in the BCS CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. They all set their goals one step lower than they should. They all seem to fall into this time warp before the BCS was installed, and think that "The Granddaddy of them all" still "is". It's too bad that these programs aren't thinking on a larger scale. It's funny too, because I've heard the players say the exact same thing. I think that they feel that it is a bigger accomplishment to go to THE ROSE BOWL than to compete for a National Championship. Interesting point of view.
 

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a lot of what you said is true, stuckinnj. and i, as the host, should not have publicly entered the fiasco.

but, scott has caused so many problems with a lot of members that i am sick of the emails about it. i don't have time for bs.

if people don't like his views, it's best to ignore him. he's trying to get a reaction/attention and it's working.

i think scott is going to take a different approach now so maybe we all can get along better. i sure hope so because once the season starts and it gets busy in here, i'm not going to put up with ANY bs.

thanks for your comments and it wasn't necessary to edit them out. i can take criticism and i deserved it in your post especially.
 

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I think it is obvious everyone wants to win a National Championship. There is a reason Carroll has his team thinking ROSE BOWL! If USC gets to the Rose Bowl that is great! If USC gets to the NC game, that is even better. But if your goal is to win a National Championship and that is what you the coach and/or the players are all talking about, it presents a problem. Say USC starts out 6-0 and gets pumped up by the media. What if USC loses game 7. USC NC hopes go down the drain and the team could set themselves up for big letdown. If your goal is to make the Rose Bowl and NC is gravy, then you are still on pace to accomplish your goal. It is a psychology thing. I can give you a CLASSIC example. Remember UCLA under Toledo almost won a NC (undefeated season) and lost to Miami at the end of season. Well all off season the team and coaches talked about NC. Media even hyped them up. They started the year I think 6-0 and they were really believing it. Then they lost and I think it was to Stanford. After that loss, they were completely drained. The rest of the season was tanked. If their goal was Rose Bowl and the coaches talked that up, maybe UCLA would have finished the season strong and no let down.

That said, I think every damn player and coach in the Pac 10 wants to win the NC. NC is better than Rose Bowl. I know for a fact that is why Pete Carroll has his team talking Rose Bowl instead of NC. I cannot speak for the rest of the league but I assume the same or that most of the league does not really feel they have realistic chance at the NC, especially with USC now being so dominant in the conf.

I think this makes a lot of sense and it seems to work for USC. The players all showed up in shape and ready to play. So there is plenty of fire on this team and going to the Rose Bowl would not be a disappointing season unless I do decide to lay $1000 on USC to win NC. Still deciding whether or not to do that. What is your opinion on this issue? Especially now that I explained it. You agree or disagree?
 

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I disagree totally. You set your goals BEFORE the season - and you set out to accomplish all of your goals. ie: OU's goals this season: Win Big XII Championship game - go to Orange Bowl. Period. You ask any and all of the players what their goal is, and they will state it as such. Anything less is a failure. Is that a lofty goal? YES. But with where OU's program is RIGHT NOW - that goal is attainable, and it is set, and EVERYONE is on the same page with it. That's not to say that if there is a bump in the road, you have to adapt and overcome.


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What if USC loses game 7. USC NC hopes go down the drain and the team could set themselves up for big letdown. If your goal is to make the Rose Bowl and NC is gravy, then you are still on pace to accomplish your goal. It is a psychology thing.

"It is a psychology thing" :lol: Classic

THAT is where the COACHING comes into play. This is where I feel that the coaches earn their money. As we all have seen in the last year - you do not have to win all of your games to participate/win a National Championship. Yes one loss is devastating, but not the end of the season - Hell, look at what happened to OU last year - they lost in the Big XII Championship game last year, and still went to The National Championship Game
In THIS particular year with THIS particular team, and THIS particular schedule - usc should be thinking nothing less than Orange Bowl - NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. If I heard anything less than that as an alumni, I would be sorely disappointed. That is selling yourself, your fans, and your program short. As I stated before, I think that the Pac-10 in general is living in the stone age so to speak with the Rose Bowl. I think that it is a great goal for a Cal, or a UCLA - programs that probably don't have a chance at getting to the National Championship game - set their goals for the Rose Bowl. I don't see anything wrong with that at all. The same would go for a program such as OU if they were down - like they were several years ago. Their goals were to win the Big XII South - Beat Nebraska and texas - go to a bowl game. Every coach/team has to have goals, and set them accordingly - I just think that pete carroll - in his statement has set his goals a step short of where they should be. I have never understood that view point. In regards to your bet - I think it is a good one. What makes me worry though, is hearing the head coach talking about a goal that doesn't coincide with what bet your're laying. The leader of your team hasn't stated that as the goal - at least in this press clipping. Those are my thoughts.
 

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Nice post trump tight.

Every player on the USC roster wants to win the National Championship this season. But the goal is to win the Rose Bowl. I am not sure why you laughed when I said it was a physiological factor. I think every team in the country wants to win every game right? Who wants to lose a game. Therefore, if you win every game you will be contending for a National Championship. If your goal is to win the Rose Bowl, that is a much easier and realistic goal to accomplish. If USC loses to V-Tech on Aug. 28th, the team will NOT throw away the season because there National Championship hopes are wiped out. (especially since USC prob. will not have a strong SOS). If your goal is to make the Rose Bowl, you can lose all the OOC games and even 1-2 conf. games and still accomplish your task. It pretty much prevents a team from self destructing. I have seen many teams self destruct after losing a game when they were all talking about winning a NC.

Now you talked about OU goal is to win the National Championship and set the bar at the highest level. I see one problem with that. USC wanted to play OU this season and both USC and OU each had 2 open dates to fill. OU declined to play USC. Why? Is it because OU's ultimate goal is to win the NC and playing USC "could" reduce OU chances of fulfilling that goal? USC playing OU would also reduce USC chances of winning NC. I think with USC, you have a program who will schedule and play anybody and wants to play the elite teams even if it costs them a chance at a NC. Before you or anybody says OU or other teams do not need to play elite OOC teams because conf. SOS is so tough that is a false statement. USC since 1990 has played the #1 SOS in the country. So you cannot play #1 SOS if you play in a weak conf. As MC said, all your games are calculated in SOS! Since 1990. 9 of the 10 Pac 10 teams have played a top 15 SOS! Pretty impressive and I have no idea how that could happen if your conf. is "weak."

Take Oregon this year. If Oregon played a typical SEC schedule, and played div 2 opponents and weak 1a opponent for OOC, you could honestly say Oregon could contend for NC or be at the very least top 25 team. Oregon skips USC and would have to win out on conf. play and they would play in title game. Oregon and for the most part the Pac 10 does not think about getting into the NC or top 25 at all costs. That is not really the agenda. USC and the Pac 10's agenda is to play good football teams during the season. As a fan, I love it! I will never understand how fans can support their team playing WEAK 1a teams or even 1aa teams. Does not make sense to me, and for those who argue that their conf. SOS is so tough no need too, that is a fallacy as I have data to prove it. The reason is to get teams ranked top 25 and to have teams contend for NC! That is the #1 reason!

Why bring this all up? WOULDN'T it be great if USC was gonna play OU in September? Wouldn't that be HUGE for college football. Without a doubt that would be the best game of the year and most watched game of the year. It would be like a SUPER BOWL! I just do not understand teams who do not want their SOS being too tough. Why run away from challenges? 2 years ago USC played AU, @CO, @KSU, and ND for OOC play. That was great as a USC fan and I could care less if USC lost all 4 of them. USC could still win the ROSE BOWL!!!! That is why USC and Pac 10 schools have the goal of winning the Rose Bowl!

Why did USC try and schedule OU, Miami, and Michigan this season to fill their open dates? USC could have played WEAK 1a teams and almost guarantee themselves a NC. If you go undefeated, you will MOST LIKELY be in the NC game despite your SOS. USC already would be top 2 if USC scheduled weak 1a opponents for OOC this year (not including ND). Think about it! Under the "old" BCS system, a WIN is worth a lot MORE than a loss no matter who you play (except 1aa team). Under this "new" BCS system, you have the polls deciding who goes and if you are pre-season ranked #1 or #2, you "MOST" likely will not be leaped if you win out.

Think about it. Why are so many college teams so scared to play tough OOC opponents? As a Pac 10 fan I get to see all the Pac 10 teams take on elite programs across the nation. They prob. will lose but who cares. It is winning the Rose Bowl that is their goal!!! I could care less if 2 or 5 teams from the Pac 10 are ranked in the top 25. It certainly will not diminish the strength of the conf and remember, wins/losses is the primary data used to ranke the top 25.

Need examples? How about Oregon playing @OU and Oregon St. playing @LSU and next week playing @Boise St. USC playing @V-Tech, Arizona last year playing LSU or Oregon playing Michigan at home, or Washington playing @Ohio St. or USC playing @Auburn or UCLA playing @OU, CAL @KSU. The list goes ON and ON and ON!

I think now you will understand why USC and the Pac 10 programs have the goal of winning the Rose Bowl.

All in all, it is different philosophies and neither way in doing things is incorrect. What people fail to undertand is that the top 25 and wins/losses alone are not great criteria in determing strength of conf. That is why I have been able to CA$H in on USC and other Pac 10 teams in bowl games (especially USC). People think Pac 10 is weak and I get great value because of that false assumption.

EDIT: *An example of OU trying at all costs of getting into the NC game. OU publicly asked to buy out UCLA last year. OU offered UCLA money to not play last season and the reason they said was "we do not want out schedule to be too tough." I am glad UCLA said no way and UCLA played @OU and got beat but who cares.
 
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Oregon would get buried playing in either side of the SEC they have no DEFENSE! I think you promised to stop this non-sense about the Pac 10 it's becoming redundant with the same slanted viewpoints over and over! I thought you were in New Orleans this week, if so, why would you waste your time here? Not only do about 80% of the folks that post here disagree with your myopic views of the Pac 10 but in the last week Beano Cook, Kirk Herbstreit and Trev Alberts all ranked the leagues for the coming year and all three had the Pac 10 rated as the 5th strongest! Of course they know nothing about college football and they just dont get how tough it is to win in the brutal Pac 10!
 

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Dude,

Consider this the last post to you from me from here on out. I never thought I'd say it, but I'm done with it. I can't stand hearing how you twist and turn every thing that has ever been posted into an attack against you. In the process you bring up these fallacies that are supposed to be arguments. I'll cite two, and be done with you. I'm tired of wasting my time with it/you - it seems to get us no where. You can chime in with the: I tore your argument/post to shreds all you want - it's simply not true - you just choose to see what you want to see, and that particular view point is the only one that matters - you call it facts -

SCOTT - WAKE THE FAWK UP!!!! SHAKE YOURSELF!!!!!

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Need examples? How about Oregon playing @OU and Oregon St. playing @LSU and next week playing @Boise St. USC playing @V-Tech, Arizona last year playing LSU or Oregon playing Michigan at home, or Washington playing @Ohio St. or USC playing @Auburn or UCLA playing @OU, CAL @KSU. The list goes ON and ON and ON!

1. Let me get the crayons out for you on this one: I have REPEATEDLY told you in at least 2 different posts, what these games are called, and you have REPEATEDLY failed to acknowledge it. You look at it like it's a one way street - it's NOT. These games are called- "HOME AT HOME SERIES" That means that each team plays "AT HOME" against said opponent, and then travels to the other teams home to reciprocate.

ALL OF THE TEAMS YOU LISTED ABOVE WILL GET THE OTHER TEAM AT THEIR HOME - IT IS NOT JUST THE PAC-10 TEAMS TRAVELING, AND NOT GETTING THEM BACK AT THEIR HOME - DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY IN BIG TIME DIV 1 FOOTBALL. There might be one team on that list that doesn't get a game back at their home because of a scheduling conflict OR a buy out - but I'd be very surprised to see it.

2. This is THE Perfect example of how you operate

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EDIT: *An example of OU trying at all costs of getting into the NC game. OU publicly asked to buy out UCLA last year. OU offered UCLA money to not play last season and the reason they said was "we do not want out schedule to be too tough." I am glad UCLA said no way and UCLA played @OU and got beat but who cares.

You're damn right I want OU to do what ever they have to do at all costs to get to the National Championship game - THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - THE RUNNER-UP BOWL DOESN'T MEAN CHIT! IT SUCKS TO PLAY FOR SECOND PLACE -

What did you hope to accomplish with this statement? You're trying to bait me into a fight with you. OU did try to MOVE the game - Did not try to buy it out. They offered money to UCLA to move the game to a different season. They scheduled @ Alabama - Fresno State - and UCLA - BACK TO BACK TO BACK. Two of those teams is a tough enough out of conference schedule going into conference play - let alone three together. You're trying to say that OU's schedule was a cream puff? This kind of chit goes all over me - I never once got into this crap about who's conference is tougher or who schedules tougher games - I sat back and watched as everyone piled on. Everyone here knows what is up. DO NOT BRING THIS CHIT AROUND HERE BOY. DO NOT TRY THIS CRAP AGAIN!

You CONSTANTLY twist the facts to fit into your little world. This is why people can't stand you. And like I said - I will not respond to any more of your crap again. Consider it done. Respond away or don't - I don't really care. I would however LOVE to meet you one day. I don't think you've ever had one of these conversations face to face with another living male - not the way that you speak on here. If we were standing in the same room - you wouldn't say the things you're saying on here now. Keep that in mind the next time you put something down in print
 
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