wheres all the romo hate?

[Old School]

I think there is something to be said for a guy who is constantly beat up by the media, fans, etc and still being able to produce with the injuries he has sustained. After what he has gone through in the last year - you can question his playoff failures, bad decisions, etc. The one thing you cannot question is his toughness.

I have had a love/hate relationship with Romo since he came on the scene. However, two back surgeries and two chipped vertebrae later, it is very hard not to at the very least have respect for him. The man gets a 20-30 minute injection before every game and still risks major injury every week. If they lose, he takes the blame and if they win, it is a team effort. That is the definition of a leader and a man. Do I think the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl? Probably not, but my respect for Romo would not be higher regardless.

It's easy to kick a man when he's down.If he doesn't have this great season at the position the same folks who kicked him before would be right back in this very forum telling anyone and everyone how badly he played.



The bigger question is do ya sing his praises when he does exceptionally well.


Again...those w/out an agenda would and have sang his praises for a great regular season..

solid and timely post Skipper

 

[Old School]

Well I'll be danged..

and the subject goes mainstream..


Cowboys' Tony Romo right to strut into playoffs with MVP bravado

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cowboy...into-playoffs-with-mvp-bravado-043217467.html

 

[Shake N Bake]

:0corn

There are two die hard Eagles fans in my office. We've had bets all season long, me losing one and having to wear a Reggie White jersey to work, and with me winning one, and the two of them having to wear an old TO jersey and a Miles Austin jersey (added insult to injury by making them wear shitty, former Dallas players' jerseys.)

Man, what a GREAT win by my BOYS!

How BOUT 'EM! moon1

 

[Skipper]

:0008

And I am a Cowboys fan, but the man has a wife and two kids and at some point he needs to think about the fact of being able to pick up his kids. I guess my moment changed about Romo was before the injuries, it was when he could have qualified for the US Open and he skipped the tourney for a VOLUNTARY mini-camp. Most players don't go to these things anyway, but it was the right thing to do and he knew it.

 

[Shake N Bake]

Well I'll be danged..

and the subject goes mainstream..


Cowboys' Tony Romo right to strut into playoffs with MVP bravado

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cowboy...into-playoffs-with-mvp-bravado-043217467.html

That pass was first class. The view from behind the line (Tony's view) showed just how amazing that pass was.

 

[Shake N Bake]

There are two die hard Eagles fans in my office. We've had bets all season long, me losing one and having to wear a Reggie White jersey to work, and with me winning one, and the two of them having to wear an old TO jersey and a Miles Austin jersey (added insult to injury by making them wear shitty, former Dallas players' jerseys.)

Man, what a GREAT win by my BOYS!

How BOUT 'EM! moon1

http://youtu.be/vKzwbsI7ISQ

 

[bleedingpurple]

It's easy to kick a man when he's down.If he doesn't have this great season at the position the same folks who kicked him before would be right back in this very forum telling anyone and everyone how badly he played. The bigger question is do ya sing his praises when he does exceptionally well. Again...those w/out an agenda would and have sang his praises for a great regular season.. solid and timely post Skipper

What have you thought about Teddy? From what I see I couldn't have been much happier. 5 of his picks were either hail marry or through asistas hands

 

[Livin'tillthEnd]

Well I'll be danged..

and the subject goes mainstream..


Cowboys' Tony Romo right to strut into playoffs with MVP bravado

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cowboy...into-playoffs-with-mvp-bravado-043217467.html

interesting stuff, again Im not hailing him and the cows as world champs, but its amazing how quickly "we" are to pounce on someone when they're down but holy shit not give some praise when its well deserved

im glad its fun to watch them again being a fan now close to 30 yrs now--hope they keep it up

really think w/ their new culture, balanced attack and aggressive defense, with a little luck they could continue to surprise... and with all the shit Romo has taken (same deserved and some of it not) over the last decade it would be cool to see

 

[Livin'tillthEnd]

There are two die hard Eagles fans in my office. We've had bets all season long, me losing one and having to wear a Reggie White jersey to work, and with me winning one, and the two of them having to wear an old TO jersey and a Miles Austin jersey (added insult to injury by making them wear shitty, former Dallas players' jerseys.)

Man, what a GREAT win by my BOYS!

How BOUT 'EM! moon1

classic!

just hope they can keep the mojo moving forward

 

[Old School]

What have you thought about Teddy? From what I see I couldn't have been much happier. 5 of his picks were either hail marry or through asistas hands

bp...

first I think he has enough ability and he's coachable at the position to learn more ..

and it appears his pocket presence while not awesome his ggod..

without that he's another RGIII or Timmy or Football dude.

his progression read will get better with time..that comes with being coachable

the passing he will hone down..plenty of arm there w/decent mechanics

the Russell Wilson intangible for these athletes...maybe..

meaning does he know when to forget the yards and get down or out of bounds..

can he dead stop deliver that 20 yard out pattern..appears so..big plus

wife says he can play clutch and not panic..I see that but again..another off season..training camp and reg. season games will tell that..

I don't get my hopes up to high for the Vikes anymore..Every year we see every game ..

and disappointment comes sitting on down in the tv room.

hell even Brett showed up and then he fvuked that all up in typical fashion..

they should trade AP if they can...

find a serviceable back and build the hugest O line you possible can..

 

[the addict]

I dont think anyone in this thread is arguing what kind of year ROMO has had??

Atleast not many. ...

Im just not sure at this point what the arguments about....

If you dont think he has had a good year you are crazy....


But most people's criticism is that he cant win the big game because of crucial mistakes

That will still be said if he lays an egg round #1....dont think its unfair at all.....peyton manning had the same reputation.....now he has hardware and couple runner ups and it stopped


Romo wins a few games and he may have the talking end as well.....beating atlamta doesnt count haha.....

I think old school and livin are spot on w/their ROMO analysis. ...just not sure who we are debating his good regular season with.


Arod is my MVP. Luck is 2nd. Big ben 3rd. Demarco/romo tie for 4th


Just my opinion but romo should def. Be in the conversation.

With the run game/line and the weapons outside in dez/williams/witten, i just think romo could be replaced and still find success w/a lesser guy.
Dont think so with the other cases as much....mostly in INDY.

 

[Livin'tillthEnd]

I dont think anyone in this thread is arguing what kind of year ROMO has had??

Atleast not many. ...

Im just not sure at this point what the arguments about....

If you dont think he has had a good year you are crazy....


But most people's criticism is that he cant win the big game because of crucial mistakes

That will still be said if he lays an egg round #1....dont think its unfair at all.....peyton manning had the same reputation.....now he has hardware and couple runner ups and it stopped


Romo wins a few games and he may have the talking end as well.....beating atlamta doesnt count haha.....

I think old school and livin are spot on w/their ROMO analysis. ...just not sure who we are debating his good regular season with.


Arod is my MVP. Luck is 2nd. Big ben 3rd. Demarco/romo tie for 4th


Just my opinion but romo should def. Be in the conversation.

With the run game/line and the weapons outside in dez/williams/witten, i just think romo could be replaced and still find success w/a lesser guy.
Dont think so with the other cases as much....mostly in INDY.

Addict,

the thread was just stating holy f, romo seasn has been great, usually its just he sucks, he cant win a big game, he throws ints at crucial times..he's debunked that so far and most would agree playing in philly in a do or die game is a big game, just a start but theyve had to win every game in december or theyd be out---couple that w/ how tough the guy is, hasnt been 100% all year, he deserves some cred, nothing more, nothing less

Only thing I disagree with is you could put someone else back there and that "lesser" of a qb would have the same success. You even have Romo tied for 4th in mvp voting..theres the rub, he doesnt have the talent around him, he sucks, he does have the talent..well anyone could play that well?

Whos lesser that could fill in? kaep? cutler? johnny football--jk on that one

 

[the addict]

Addict,

the thread was just stating holy f, romo seasn has been great, usually its just he sucks, he cant win a big game, he throws ints at crucial times..he's debunked that so far and most would agree playing in philly in a do or die game is a big game, just a start but theyve had to win every game in december or theyd be out---couple that w/ how tough the guy is, hasnt been 100% all year, he deserves some cred, nothing more, nothing less

Only thing I disagree with is you could put someone else back there and that "lesser" of a qb would have the same success. You even have Romo tied for 4th in mvp voting..theres the rub, he doesnt have the talent around him, he sucks, he does have the talent..well anyone could play that well?

Whos lesser that could fill in? kaep? cutler? johnny football--jk on that one

No no.....never said a lesser qb could have same success.....said the cowboys could find success with a lesser talent at QB...would that individual have 32-10 TD/INT ratio....doubtful.....would they have top 3 QBR....probably not. ...so not equal personal success....but i think a guy like hoyer/dalton/smith/fitzpatrick could go to Dallas and win 9-10 games much easier then in INDY or PITT. that running game and o-line make a QB's life a lot simpler.....that is why rodgers/ben/luck are ahead of romo to me in regards to MVP...I still think he should be in the conversation....he absolutley deserves credit....but the situation in dallas is set up to take pressure off a QB which is good...i just dont think those other have the same luxuries to the same extent...rodgers close but his numbers are even better with more wins so he has to be ahead

so i dont think its fair to say he gets no credit when wins and all blame when loses...him and murray are #1 reason for success this year...i think lots think so...thats why people are talking MVP on national forums. They think he should be in MVP talks which basically means the national media are admitting he has been great. ..

when they lose they blame jerry/romo/garret....no defense....romo is a big part of their winning for sure but he plays a big part when they struggled. ..just like any QB early in career...it may be wrong for QB's to take the heat like they do, but when things are good most QBs dont mind the spotlight...good with the bad type thing. ....look at all the heat manning took for so long regarding the same stuff....it was always "manning couldn't win the big game"...never "colts lose again in big game"...so right or wrong it isnt just romo. ..shit ppl were questioning brady after 1 loss to KC in primetime....


Either way Romo has been great
That cannot be argued...he has had other good regular seasons....i just simply want to see wins come January....peyton shut everyone up with a ring and 2 runner ups...romo can do the same with a few wins....

Atlanta still doesnt count

 

[the addict]

No no.....never said a lesser qb could have same success.....said the cowboys could find success with a lesser talent at QB...would that individual have 32-10 TD/INT ratio....doubtful.....would they have top 3 QBR....probably not. ...so not equal personal success....but i think a guy like hoyer/dalton/smith/fitzpatrick could go to Dallas and win 9-10 games much easier then in INDY or PITT. that running game and o-line make a QB's life a lot simpler.....that is why rodgers/ben/luck are ahead of romo to me in regards to MVP...I still think he should be in the conversation....he absolutley deserves credit....but the situation in dallas is set up to take pressure off a QB which is good...i just dont think those other have the same luxuries to the same extent...rodgers close but his numbers are even better with more wins so he has to be ahead

so i dont think its fair to say he gets no credit when wins and all blame when loses...him and murray are #1 reason for success this year...i think lots think so...thats why people are talking MVP on national forums. They think he should be in MVP talks which basically means the national media are admitting he has been great. ..

when they lose they blame jerry/romo/garret....no defense....romo is a big part of their winning for sure but he plays a big part when they struggled. ..just like any QB early in career...it may be wrong for QB's to take the heat like they do, but when things are good most QBs dont mind the spotlight...good with the bad type thing. ....look at all the heat manning took for so long regarding the same stuff....it was always "manning couldn't win the big game"...never "colts lose again in big game"...so right or wrong it isnt just romo. ..shit ppl were questioning brady after 1 loss to KC in primetime....

Either way Romo has been great
That cannot be argued...he has had other good regular seasons....i just simply want to see wins come January....peyton shut everone up with a ring and 2 runner ups...romo can do the same with a few wins....

Atlanta still doesnt count

Again livin i think we agree with most everything. Just are rating the success slightly different. ...hope they win it man....GL

 

[Livin'tillthEnd]

Again livin i think we agree with most everything. Just are rating the success slightly different. ...hope they win it man....GL

fitzpatrick or hoyer?

Addict, I'm sorry theres no way. Just the fact you mentioned those guys takes away a lot from your argument that a lesser qb could fill in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

this link is interesting. Yes, Romo hasnt won shit, no debate there, but he's had a hell of a year. The link will however actually let you see where Romo stands in career passer rating. pretty fkn crazy, I had no idea. Obviously super bowl rings mean everything so the fact Aikman is ranked 49 tells you a lot, but for being an inferior qb, his rating may surprise you.

Would i take Rodgers, Brady, Luck, over romo, yes, (poolplaya u there)

Do I think hoyer or fitzpatrick could fill in, no bro..

 

[the addict]

fitzpatrick or hoyer?

Addict, I'm sorry theres no way. Just the fact you mentioned those guys takes away a lot from your argument that a lesser qb could fill in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_career_passer_rating_leaders

this link is interesting. Yes, Romo hasnt won shit, no debate there, but he's had a hell of a year. The link will however actually let you see where Romo stands in career passer rating. pretty fkn crazy, I had no idea. Obviously super bowl rings mean everything so the fact Aikman is ranked 49 tells you a lot, but for being an inferior qb, his rating may surprise you.

Would i take Rodgers, Brady, Luck, over romo, yes, (poolplaya u there)

Do I think hoyer or fitzpatrick could fill in, no bro..

you realize hoyer and Fitzpatrick each won 7-8 games on shitty teams.....browns and Houston.......imagine on that team with how it is set up......I see no reason they wouldn't win more games then they did with current teams.....escp. playing the skins and giants 4 times

 

[the addict]

hoyer 7 wins with the BROWNS!!!!!!!!!!!! that's saying a lot about him.....which is why I was surprised browns pulled him

Fitzpatrick always had the buffalo bills competitive in games and even in playoff discussions a few times!!!!

Fitzpatrick has the Texans at 8-7 and in playoff contention






so yea I have actually no doubt that either of them could win 9 games with this cowboys squad






and yea I think Romo is much better....again not comparing them in any way.....





as far as the wiki page it is cool to check out, but with how much the game has evolved, I don't put much into it......it is a passing league now.....there is guys that would be unreal if they threw it like they do it.....and some who wouldn't make it.....but regardless I don't think that is an accurate stat just based on the game evolving......again nothing to do with romo....he deserves to be near the top.....I just don't consider it anything crazy to use as a reference.

 

[the addict]

Again, I don't want you to think im comparing Romo to hoyer or Fitzpatrick....I am not.....Romo better....


just stating that if they can win with the browns/Texans, I am certain they could win with the setup the boys have

 

[Livin'tillthEnd]

you realize hoyer and Fitzpatrick each won 7-8 games on shitty teams.....browns and Houston.......imagine on that team with how it is set up......I see no reason they wouldn't win more games then they did with current teams.....escp. playing the skins and giants 4 times

dude, hoyer got over taken by johnny f and fitz is a career journeyman, --plus Im sure youd agree both teams defenses were better than dallas' coming into the season which may account for a few of those wins

we could say that geno smith would have a better shot at winning more games w/ cows than jets but that argument really has no merit ---


appreciate the input---if romo can win a playoff game or 2 and play well, i think most will be shocked

hes definitely tired of hearing he sucks, hopefully he'll build on a great season

 

[the addict]

Hoyer would win 10 games
Fitz 9....

Hoyer is like 11-5 as starter in cle.....the worst franchise since 2000. Terrible support on offense. ...terrible....probably worst supporting cast in football. ...


was dumb benching him.....i think he has potential...
But thats irrelevant....its all opinion...

romo is much better...but you have to realize how much simpler it would be in an offense like that. Just is....


Fitz may be journeyman but he wins 5-7 games consistently on shit teams...there is a reason he continues to be a starter and not backup af places....he is very capable just has been on shit teams. Harvard grad the game is not to big for him




All opinion and ive gotten us way off topic sorry.....

Romo awesome this year...everyone in world knows it...so hope he keeps it up in postseason...