Who's ready to jump on the 3rd rail topic of Michael Brown?
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If you ever decide Wisconsin is not white enough for you, may I suggest Idaho as a new home for you?
Reading comprehension is still a skill that you haven't mastered I see. Here is what I posted earlier in the thread: Looting and giving the police a reason to be aggressive with the protests in the name of a young man who died does nothing.
Pro 190 posted a story of another young man that was killed today, near Ferguson. The guy was robbing a store, wielded a knife at police and kept approaching them after being told to stop. That happened this afternoon and we have all the details from police on that incident. Why don't we have the information from an incident from a week and a half ago? The police/law enforcement may have been justified in every action from the Michael Brown shooting to their actions each night this week. That's not what my comments pertained to. I would explain it again but I'm guessing you wouldn't understand it a second or even third time.
NOW IM PISSED!!
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Redskins defensive backs pay tribute to Michael Brown
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LANDOVER, Md. ? Washington Redskins safety Brandon Meriweather said the team's defensive backs decided as a group to pay pregame tribute to slain Missouri teenager Michael Brown as they came through the tunnel and onto FedEx Field for Monday night's preseason game against the Cleveland Browns.
Meriweather was among the defensive backs who came through the tunnel with their hands up, referencing reports that Brown had raised his hands in surrender when he was shot and killed earlier this month by a Ferguson, Missouri police officer.
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"We just wanted everybody to know that we support Michael and acknowledge what happened in Ferguson,'' Meriweather told USA TODAY Sports. "Crazy things happen every day in this world.
"It was all of ours idea, something we decided to do as a group just to show our support.''
Second-year cornerback David Amerson followed the lead of veteran players such as Meriweather.
"It really was some of the older guys' idea,'' Amerson said. "As a DB group, we try and do everything together. Everyone agreed to it and we just did it."
Watch this bs
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/foo...n-ferguson-protesters-article-1.1909010#bmb=1
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NFL
Redskins defensive backs pay tribute to Michael Brown
Jim Corbett, USA TODAY Sports
1 day ago
Google Plus
more
Richard Lipski, AP
Washington Redskins strong safety Brandon Meriweather (31) looks through a more
LANDOVER, Md. ? Washington Redskins safety Brandon Meriweather said the team's defensive backs decided as a group to pay pregame tribute to slain Missouri teenager Michael Brown as they came through the tunnel and onto FedEx Field for Monday night's preseason game against the Cleveland Browns.
Meriweather was among the defensive backs who came through the tunnel with their hands up, referencing reports that Brown had raised his hands in surrender when he was shot and killed earlier this month by a Ferguson, Missouri police officer.
USATODAY
CBS' Phil Simms considers not using 'Redskins' on air
"We just wanted everybody to know that we support Michael and acknowledge what happened in Ferguson,'' Meriweather told USA TODAY Sports. "Crazy things happen every day in this world.
"It was all of ours idea, something we decided to do as a group just to show our support.''
Second-year cornerback David Amerson followed the lead of veteran players such as Meriweather.
"It really was some of the older guys' idea,'' Amerson said. "As a DB group, we try and do everything together. Everyone agreed to it and we just did it."
Watch this bs
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/foo...n-ferguson-protesters-article-1.1909010#bmb=1
To put what happened in Ferguson in proper context, we need to understand how police officers are trained. The overwhelming majority of police departments in the United States train their officers in what is referred to as "continuum of force," which views confrontations with the public as a series of stages.
It starts with an officer's mere presence or spoken instructions, and becomes steadily more coercive, from the use of commands ("disperse;" "put the hands up") to physical force, with things such as batons, Tasers, pepper spray, and finally, if all else fails or an officer's life is threatened, deadly force. That is, bullets.
An officer need not go through each and every stage of the continuum. It is left to his or her discretion if and when to skip any or most of the stages. And it is important to emphasize that, even when an officer opts for deadly force, it is never intended to kill the suspect but to eliminate the perceived threat. Since police are trained to shoot in the center of the body, the use of this force will often result in death.
Smoke, gas, gunshots: Chaos in Ferguson The scene in Ferguson Clashes rage on in Ferguson
Police officers receive between 70 and 120 hours of training in the use of deadly force from the technical angle -- that is, how to fire their guns accurately. But little in their training modules touches upon the psychological, physiological and social aspects of the use of deadly force. This is a mistake. Police training should include extensive and ongoing emphasis on what happens to the officer, the suspect and the community when coercive force is used. Officers must be prepared to cope with stressful encounters that they believe call for firing their weapon at a suspect.
This is not the kind of training that individual police departments should work out on their own. It should be developed as a national standard by experts in the field of police studies, sociology, psychology and physiology.
Police also receive practically no training in stress management; if a department decides to offer such training, it is usually on an experimental basis and not incorporated long term. But without learning to manage stressful encounters, officers will find themselves again and again in situations in which human life -- that of the person the force is used against or the police officer who shoots -- is sacrificed because of an error of judgment.
Researchers have shown that under the stress of a deadly force encounter, a series of physiological changes occur. Visual perception becomes seriously impaired: Up to 70% of the peripheral vision is affected. This visual impairment often creates an inability to assess how many shots are needed and if indeed the suspect has been incapacitated to the point of posing no more threat to the police officer or others.
It's not possible to say that the number of shots in the Brown case represent a police officer attempting to "execute" the teenager, but rather they likely reflect the outcome of a tremendous stress that the officer experienced while shooting.
Policing as a profession, in addition to being about the use of force, is also about the individual discretion of officers, and this is difficult to explain to a non-police audience. It is rooted in a sense of suspicion, the idea that anything can happen on the streets, and it is related to officers' personal experience but also the experiences of his or her colleagues, the so-called war stories that mobilize and organize much of officers' behavior on the streets.
It is a horrible tragedy when a police officer takes somebody's life, especially when the person was not armed. However, the public makes a dangerous presumption when it assumes that police officers, police departments or any other law enforcement bodies are out there to execute members of the public. Policing is a dangerous profession, as George Orwell once wrote: "Men can only be highly civilized while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard ... them."
Yes, police must be enabled to use coercive force, but they must be trained thoroughly in how to use it.
They are trained as soldiers and expected to perform as social workers at least 90% of the time. And then in a split of a second, they have to be soldiers again. It's quite a trick.
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opcorn2
It starts with an officer's mere presence or spoken instructions, and becomes steadily more coercive, from the use of commands ("disperse;" "put the hands up") to physical force, with things such as batons, Tasers, pepper spray, and finally, if all else fails or an officer's life is threatened, deadly force. That is, bullets.
An officer need not go through each and every stage of the continuum. It is left to his or her discretion if and when to skip any or most of the stages. And it is important to emphasize that, even when an officer opts for deadly force, it is never intended to kill the suspect but to eliminate the perceived threat. Since police are trained to shoot in the center of the body, the use of this force will often result in death.
Smoke, gas, gunshots: Chaos in Ferguson The scene in Ferguson Clashes rage on in Ferguson
Police officers receive between 70 and 120 hours of training in the use of deadly force from the technical angle -- that is, how to fire their guns accurately. But little in their training modules touches upon the psychological, physiological and social aspects of the use of deadly force. This is a mistake. Police training should include extensive and ongoing emphasis on what happens to the officer, the suspect and the community when coercive force is used. Officers must be prepared to cope with stressful encounters that they believe call for firing their weapon at a suspect.
This is not the kind of training that individual police departments should work out on their own. It should be developed as a national standard by experts in the field of police studies, sociology, psychology and physiology.
Police also receive practically no training in stress management; if a department decides to offer such training, it is usually on an experimental basis and not incorporated long term. But without learning to manage stressful encounters, officers will find themselves again and again in situations in which human life -- that of the person the force is used against or the police officer who shoots -- is sacrificed because of an error of judgment.
Researchers have shown that under the stress of a deadly force encounter, a series of physiological changes occur. Visual perception becomes seriously impaired: Up to 70% of the peripheral vision is affected. This visual impairment often creates an inability to assess how many shots are needed and if indeed the suspect has been incapacitated to the point of posing no more threat to the police officer or others.
It's not possible to say that the number of shots in the Brown case represent a police officer attempting to "execute" the teenager, but rather they likely reflect the outcome of a tremendous stress that the officer experienced while shooting.
Policing as a profession, in addition to being about the use of force, is also about the individual discretion of officers, and this is difficult to explain to a non-police audience. It is rooted in a sense of suspicion, the idea that anything can happen on the streets, and it is related to officers' personal experience but also the experiences of his or her colleagues, the so-called war stories that mobilize and organize much of officers' behavior on the streets.
It is a horrible tragedy when a police officer takes somebody's life, especially when the person was not armed. However, the public makes a dangerous presumption when it assumes that police officers, police departments or any other law enforcement bodies are out there to execute members of the public. Policing is a dangerous profession, as George Orwell once wrote: "Men can only be highly civilized while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard ... them."
Yes, police must be enabled to use coercive force, but they must be trained thoroughly in how to use it.
They are trained as soldiers and expected to perform as social workers at least 90% of the time. And then in a split of a second, they have to be soldiers again. It's quite a trick.
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opcorn2Obviously , we don't hAve the facts but the perception in the African American community is that Brown had his hands up in the air and was surrendering . At that point the officer shot him multiple times. Even if video contradicts that perception, the AA community will not believe it. They will say it's been altered. Anything other than a conviction , we will see a all out civil war IMHO
The AA community doesn't give a shit about "justice". They want to stand over the body of Wilson.
Wow this cops is nuts . It's getting worse my friends .
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You deal with this scum for 12 days straight. He told them to get back and what do they do, keep advancing and being antagonistic. They surely moved away when he said I'll fkn kill you!
Good for him!
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I live in Milwaukee, a fortress of WHITE POWER :142smilie Again your ignorance is only preceded by your stupidity..
KOD touches on some relevant points here
What he misses is an insiders POV on the 2 examples he mentions
LA Riots: The 40th Infantry (M) was scheduled to deploy for their annual training when the riots broke out. With some units, mine in particular scheduled for a 3 week cycle instead of the normal 2 week training cycle. 80% of our equipment was already deployed to Fort Irwin California. Our vehicles and alert roster included. It was a major go screw to alert all of the troops about deploying to LA.
There was no military intelligence available about the potential of a riot in Los Angeles
So the California Army National Guard was caught offguard
The state armor was on leave, thus giving us only 30% battle ready munitions
At the time of the riots, 1 out of 10 soldiers in Guard Units were Desert Storm Vets
With actual combat experience as opposed to today's numbers of 50 plus percent of Combat Vets. There was no Social Media at the time. Once all guard soldiers were deployed to LA, we did receive intelligence reports about pending riots throughout the state of California. The QRF (Quick reactionary force) was assembled to redeployed to Sacramento Oakland and San Francisco, being that this was not a federal issue yet, the Marines and active-duty Army were not called into the action. Myself and 25 other Army National Guard and then redeployed to Sacramento for potential riots at malls and other city centers. Once the president federalized the issue. The Air Force active-duty Army and Marines were brought into protect other sensitive areas.
As far as the O.J. Simpson trial goes, The California Army National Guard was put on alert for potential riots.
With the advantage of social media riots and civil unrest can be coordinated quickly
Regardless of the results of the grand jury this morning, civil unrest in multiple cities certainly has a potential to get volatile
The fact is that there are laws in this land and shooting an unarmed man violates most of them. Regardless of the situation, maybe he got punched maybe he didn't, nobody should be allowed to kill another when unarmed. Imagine a black cop trying to use the same lame bullshit excuses for killing a white 18 year old. Do you think the kids height, weight, and past transgressions would make the news? You think the cops would delay release of the name and details of the cop and the crime?
Do you think our resident racist fat ass hedgehog would be backing a black cop's actions?
That kid was murdered by a cop, period. He should be punished to the fullest extent of the law because he is the one charged to uphold it.
This is the result of the dumbing down of society. As we "progress" as a society we know less and less of its machinations as individuals (some words you'll have to look up tubby and casbah) we gladly accept and even make excuses for what was once considered reprehensible. The cop is wrong and will be convicted, rightly so.
Hope this helps,
FDC
Do you think our resident racist fat ass hedgehog would be backing a black cop's actions?
That kid was murdered by a cop, period. He should be punished to the fullest extent of the law because he is the one charged to uphold it.
This is the result of the dumbing down of society. As we "progress" as a society we know less and less of its machinations as individuals (some words you'll have to look up tubby and casbah) we gladly accept and even make excuses for what was once considered reprehensible. The cop is wrong and will be convicted, rightly so.
Hope this helps,
FDC
not if it's proven that Michael was trying to take the officers gun. Then its game over for Michael :0008
