Theboundbook said:
Yep, your there, and if you and Jack somehow both make the final table I will be there next year
wsop odds to make final table
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Yep, your there, and if you and Jack somehow both make the final table I will be there next year
i am definitely envious of this guy. he has the life.
http://barrygreenstein.com/latimes5-05.htm
for the full article click above.
To Greenstein, poker is purely a business. He is one of the world's wealthiest, shrewdest and most fearsome card sharks, but all things being equal, he'd rather return to his old job as a computer programmer or maybe pursue his dream of becoming a math professor. All things are not equal, of course, and math professors don't live in mansions overlooking the Pacific Ocean. "There are a lot of people who feel that they would play poker regardless of how they do, because they love cards," he says. "The reason I play is strictly to make money."
In the first five years of this poker-crazy new millennium, Greenstein earned more money playing the game than anyone alive?by some estimates in excess of $20 million, a figure he does not dispute. His prosperity is on copious display in his massive home, which overlooks not only the ocean but also a seaside golf course being built by Donald Trump. Greenstein recently added an indoor pool, and his girlfriend is planning to remodel their immense kitchen. The one blight in all of this domestic luxury is an interrupted view from one of his balconies. It ought to look down upon the adjacent course's clubhouse; instead, it offers a view of his neighbor's Spanish-style roof.
http://barrygreenstein.com/latimes5-05.htm
for the full article click above.
To Greenstein, poker is purely a business. He is one of the world's wealthiest, shrewdest and most fearsome card sharks, but all things being equal, he'd rather return to his old job as a computer programmer or maybe pursue his dream of becoming a math professor. All things are not equal, of course, and math professors don't live in mansions overlooking the Pacific Ocean. "There are a lot of people who feel that they would play poker regardless of how they do, because they love cards," he says. "The reason I play is strictly to make money."
In the first five years of this poker-crazy new millennium, Greenstein earned more money playing the game than anyone alive?by some estimates in excess of $20 million, a figure he does not dispute. His prosperity is on copious display in his massive home, which overlooks not only the ocean but also a seaside golf course being built by Donald Trump. Greenstein recently added an indoor pool, and his girlfriend is planning to remodel their immense kitchen. The one blight in all of this domestic luxury is an interrupted view from one of his balconies. It ought to look down upon the adjacent course's clubhouse; instead, it offers a view of his neighbor's Spanish-style roof.
Sorry but those odds are flatout absurd and ridiculous. 20-1 on anyone, I dont care if you're the best player in the Universe is absurd. No one should be lower than 80-1, maybe 100-1 at most.
Poker is a game of skill, but also massive, massive amounts of luck - over the long term. Ask any tournament player worth a damn, they will readiliy admit to you luck plays a huge roll in tournament success and the amount of luck you need increases geometrically the higher the number of players. Playing in the Finals of a big tournament with 500 people is one thing.. Over a 6 day tournament, to make it to the Final Table, you will be in at least 15-20 situations where you are all in for your life, and probably half of them you will be behind after the flop. But put 8,000+(!!!!!!!!) people in one tournament and you think 20-1 are fair odds? Give me a freaking break.
And dont sleep on internet players, that has nothing to do with how well they will play, nothing. Last two WSOP champions were not pros, they were internet players. Some of the top pros say one of the reasons they are having trouble is that they underestimated how ready to play internet players would be.
Poker is a game of skill, but also massive, massive amounts of luck - over the long term. Ask any tournament player worth a damn, they will readiliy admit to you luck plays a huge roll in tournament success and the amount of luck you need increases geometrically the higher the number of players. Playing in the Finals of a big tournament with 500 people is one thing.. Over a 6 day tournament, to make it to the Final Table, you will be in at least 15-20 situations where you are all in for your life, and probably half of them you will be behind after the flop. But put 8,000+(!!!!!!!!) people in one tournament and you think 20-1 are fair odds? Give me a freaking break.
And dont sleep on internet players, that has nothing to do with how well they will play, nothing. Last two WSOP champions were not pros, they were internet players. Some of the top pros say one of the reasons they are having trouble is that they underestimated how ready to play internet players would be.
TJBELL said:
TJ,
That's 55-1. Take 2 zeros off of all the betjamaica lines. Hence, my comment about how betjamaica should be embarrased.
That's cool that they put Jackson and boundbook up, though.
Jack maybe the books will call me since I have played so much poker with you and have all your tells :mj07: :mj07: By the way you comin tomorrow for a tune up? Bring my shirt please if you do
kosar said:
ugh...put me on the *embarrased* list...LOL
somehow i forgot that TEN had a one and a zero also when converting from 1 to 100
penguinfan said:
Well, it looks like one book must have read this thread
:scared :mj07:
Franky
P.S. GL Jack, BB, and Slick?(sorry but didn't know you were in).
I will give 5-1 odds that one of these three make the top 1K..................
Bif "The Hat" said:
Bif,
I happened to be around, think it starts the 6th or 7th of July, runs for 9-10 days?
Correct me if Im wrong fellas..........
Franky
50 bucks on this guy
Antonio (Magician) Esfandiari 85-1
and 25 bucks on my hero
Phil Hellmuth 50-1
Antonio (Magician) Esfandiari 85-1
and 25 bucks on my hero
Phil Hellmuth 50-1
penguinfan said:
...as I said in the other thread, if it's not close to even money, I'll have to play the dog.
Theboundbook said:
...hey Brad, if you were a dog, I guess that would make them female dogs...and we all know what the word for a female dog is, now don't we? LOL :scared :mj07:
