I said we need to get rid of it? I simply pointed out that the people who wrote this also owned slaves and oppressed women, two things which are widely accepted as being wrong.....dont worry nobody is going to take your precious guns, Rambo.
WTF Is Going On In This Country?
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I said we need to get rid of it? I simply pointed out that the people who wrote this also owned slaves and oppressed women, two things which are widely accepted as being wrong.....dont worry nobody is going to take your precious guns, Rambo.
For the record, i do not own pistols or assault weapons. Just a pair of semi automatic hunting rifles are in my home.
nope. was pointing out how it is widely accepted that they made mistakes on 2 of their views but even questioning one of the others and it is dismissed and not even given a thought about.
it is not "fully automatic", as put by pocket aces. it is semi-automatic. single shot per trigger pull.
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This is what people mean when they say that people need to educate themselves about the topic. An individual can not just go out and purchase a new AR 15 that is FA.
Select-fire, or fully automatic, rifles have been tightly regulated by the federal government since the 1930s. I don't know if even one such regulated and registered weapon was used in any of these mass shootings ever.
The Bushmaster is a semiauto assault-style rifle. Not an assault rifle (which is select-fire or fully automatic)
Plenty of common hunting rifles would probably kill more folks in a shooting spree than the assault (and assault-style) rifles the public gets worked over about. You can fire many pump rifles nearly as fast as semiauto with a bit of practice. There is even one, the Remington pump action rifle model 7615, which can be fitted with 30 round clips and 100 round drums.
Most hunting rifles also have greater and more lethal calibers and velocities than assault rifles.
The military moved to assault rifles (with their small .22 or so caliber rounds) because it is believed they wound people more than kill - other soldiers would tend to wounded buddies instead of fighting - and soldiers were more apt to fire them at the enemy knowing it just sprays out bullets, the more bullets out there the better it is believed.
look at the list of most deadly Killing Sprees in the US and you see plenty out there which did not involve assault-style rifles and big capacity clips.
Even so, if you were successful in banning loads of guns in the US that won't help hardly anything as soooo many are out there and easy to smuggle in, steal, borrow, black market purchase, etc., anyway.
And do you really want the smart crazies to reach for alternatives? The worst non-military mass killings in the US did not involve guns....
even more specifically, by far the most lethal mass killing of children at a US school (1927) did not involve guns either.
The Bushmaster is a semiauto assault-style rifle. Not an assault rifle (which is select-fire or fully automatic)
Plenty of common hunting rifles would probably kill more folks in a shooting spree than the assault (and assault-style) rifles the public gets worked over about. You can fire many pump rifles nearly as fast as semiauto with a bit of practice. There is even one, the Remington pump action rifle model 7615, which can be fitted with 30 round clips and 100 round drums.
Most hunting rifles also have greater and more lethal calibers and velocities than assault rifles.
The military moved to assault rifles (with their small .22 or so caliber rounds) because it is believed they wound people more than kill - other soldiers would tend to wounded buddies instead of fighting - and soldiers were more apt to fire them at the enemy knowing it just sprays out bullets, the more bullets out there the better it is believed.
look at the list of most deadly Killing Sprees in the US and you see plenty out there which did not involve assault-style rifles and big capacity clips.
Even so, if you were successful in banning loads of guns in the US that won't help hardly anything as soooo many are out there and easy to smuggle in, steal, borrow, black market purchase, etc., anyway.
And do you really want the smart crazies to reach for alternatives? The worst non-military mass killings in the US did not involve guns....
even more specifically, by far the most lethal mass killing of children at a US school (1927) did not involve guns either.
That settles it. Let's keep the status quo:facepalm:
Do what you did and you'll get what you got.
if people thought like this then why would there be any laws at all? why have speed limits since so many people drive above them? why have anything be made illegal because people will just buy it on the black market?
every gun nut is the same. somehow you all know already that it will do nothing so we should just not bother doing anything cause whats the point? well please, tell us more since you all have nice crystal balls that seem to be working.
It's funny because most of these guys you're calling gun nuts don't even own a gun or even care. It's ALL fucking political and guess where this thread is heading soon?
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a lot of good point's on both side's.... all I can see, every sentence or statement made can be interpeted as political or religious :shrug:
I'm not into guns at all but have accumulated some over the years. I haven't fired one in over 20 years.
I have....
Ruger 380 automatic hand gun
Smith & Wesson 357 magnum hand gun
22 hand gun
270 rifle
22 rifle
I also have a permit to carry one but never have.
I don't know why I have these things but I do.
If I ever needed to defend myself, spur of the moment, I would not be prepared at all. The Rugar is in my office desk without the clip in it, the 357 is in my safe and the others are still packed from several moves.
I don't have a strong opinion about gun owning but I lean to getting rid of them all. But, that's impossible.
I have....
Ruger 380 automatic hand gun
Smith & Wesson 357 magnum hand gun
22 hand gun
270 rifle
22 rifle
I also have a permit to carry one but never have.
I don't know why I have these things but I do.
If I ever needed to defend myself, spur of the moment, I would not be prepared at all. The Rugar is in my office desk without the clip in it, the 357 is in my safe and the others are still packed from several moves.
I don't have a strong opinion about gun owning but I lean to getting rid of them all. But, that's impossible.
per your previous post, I have no political agenda at all. I dont care who or what anyone votes for. the only thing I have a problem with is living in a place where murdering just continues to rise and not much is done about it. I dont care if changing laws wouldnt completely fix the problem but doing something and possibly getting some result is a lot better than doing nothing and seeing it stay as it is or get worse.
about your guns, I am sure you have them to protect yourself and your family, and I have no problem witht hat, but like you said, if there were a spur of the moment instance, you wouldnt be prepared. and I have to think that this is the case for a large majority of people who own guns. these things are locked away in a safe usually and from what some people say, the clips are not even with the guns in some cases. so if someone comes crashing through your door, with a weapon, there would hardly be time to run to a safe, enter the combination, get the gun, find the clips, load the gun, find the intruder again and take action. all while worry about where your family is and trying to get them somewhere safe, calling 911, and whatever else. who knows how effective youd be after not firing the thing in 20 years and all the wild emotions youd be having in the heat of the moment.
also, and this is a big one, think about this. people own all these guns which they lock away and have to protect themselves, thats great. but what is more likely to happen? something happens in your life that makes you extremely angry or having an intruder in your home threaten your life. i completely get the point that people want to protect themselves, but there are a lot of people with anger issues who own weapons who by having access to them can act on a spur of the moment rage and kill someone.
now you might say if they were so angry that theyd use a knife or rope or something else and it wouldnt matter and that may very well be true but how many times have you been angry and then realized in the middle of it, shit, im overreacting? with a gun all it takes is one squeeze of the trigger. if you just rage and punch someone, there is a MUCH MUCH greater chance this person does not die. even with an attack with something else, there is a greater chance of a non fatal injury and the chance to run away. you cant run away from a bullet.
not attacking your stance just giving some examples based on what you said is your situation.
