Zags/Hopkins April 12

[punchmaster]

Hopkins is a future Hall of Famer but he may be an even better Boxing Manager. He does not take fights he can't win. It seems Hopkins has bamboozled another unsuspecting fighter.

Calzaghe is a marvelous talent but Hopkins has him leaving his element and moving up to 175 pounds and his own promotional outfit is calling the shots.

People forget how strong Hopkins is at 175
- see the Tarver fight when he trained with Mackie Shilstone. Hopkins is taking this fight MUCH more seriously than the Winky Wright fight. :142smilie

Some interesting points that might prevent players from laying down large on Zags. A big thing your not mentioning is Hopkins age of 43. Hopkins is amazing - but Father Time is unbeatable.

175 is good for Hops , no doubt, it's his natural fighting weight- he hung at 160 for history, but how do we know 175 won't be nice for Zags who's been making 168 since his first fight in the early 90's. I can only see it helping him also and I can't ignore that Winky's prime fighting weight was 154, a whopping 14 pounds less than Zags. Your understimating Zags who is also a very smart, cerebral fighter who can fight/brawl or box or basically can adust on the fly. He tried some toe to toe with the very strong Kessler, showed a great chin and said let me just box this guy and lock the win. Golden Boy will have to steal this one as they have numerous times because Hop just won't be busy enough. Tarver was dead, and more or less quit a few rounds into the fight. Zags will never do that.

 

[Kramden]

Some interesting points that might prevent players from laying down large on Zags. A big thing your not mentioning is Hopkins age of 43. Hopkins is amazing - but Father Time is unbeatable.

175 is good for Hops , no doubt, it's his natural fighting weight- he hung at 160 for history, but how do we know 175 won't be nice for Zags who's been making 168 since his first fight in the early 90's. I can only see it helping him also and I can't ignore that Winky's prime fighting weight was 154, a whopping 14 pounds less than Zags. Your understimating Zags who is also a very smart, cerebral fighter who can fight/brawl or box or basically can adust on the fly. He tried some toe to toe with the very strong Kessler, showed a great chin and said let me just box this guy and lock the win. Golden Boy will have to steal this one as they have numerous times because Hop just won't be busy enough. Tarver was dead, and more or less quit a few rounds into the fight. Zags will never do that.

I agree Calzaghe won't quit. He's a tough kid. You know what's funny is that I believed Hopkins wouldn't get near Calzaghe a few years ago because it was a sure loss but now it's happening and you have to dig a bit deeper into these match-ups before coming to a conclusion.


(Wright was a big 154 pounder. He walks around at 190 and should have moved up years ago. See his record on Boxrec. He was at 154 15 years ago.)


I don't think Calzaghe will be able to run his usual high punch output lest he run into a hornets nest. Nard is 43 but he'll be in top condition because of his association with Shilstone in this fight. Plus, he provides nice value fighting at 175 and at home.

 

[almly]

Hopkins doesnt take fights he cant win? OK - whatever. He took 2 fights against Jermaine Taylor. And I thought the fight with a blown up Winky Wright was a draw.

You guys can tell yourselves whatever you want to tell yourselves to boost your Hopkins confidence but its not going to do any good. Hopkins is not going to win this fight.

 

[Kramden]

Hopkins doesnt take fights he cant win? OK - whatever. He took 2 fights against Jermaine Taylor. And I thought the fight with a blown up Winky Wright was a draw.

You guys can tell yourselves whatever you want to tell yourselves to boost your Hopkins confidence but its not going to do any good. Hopkins is not going to win this fight.

I thought he won both Taylor fights even though I backed Taylor at the sportsbook. Nard stayed at middle a bit too long. And he handled Wright and didn't really take him too seriously. :walk:

 

[punchmaster]

I thought he won both Taylor fights even though I backed Taylor at the sportsbook. Nard stayed at middle a bit too long. And he handled Wright and didn't really take him too seriously. :walk:

Alright Kramden, it sounds like you have some inside info- How do you know he didn't take Wright seriously?. That seems doubtful and unlike Hop. Calzaghe is already here in Vegas couple weeks before fighttime to get fully acclimated, I may go watch him shake out a bit today.

I wasn't a big Taylor fan and was looking for ways to give Hops the fights. Taylor won the second ,7 rounds to 5, Hops started way too slow. I could give Hops the first one the way he came on down the stretch, but still started very slow

 

[almly]

I actually had the first fight a draw but Taylor definitely didnt win the second fight. My point is though, all 3 of those fights were very close. You cant imply that if he takes a fight - its a fight hes going to win.

Punchmaster, you ignoring me now buddy?

 

[punchmaster]

I actually had the first fight a draw but Taylor definitely didnt win the second fight. My point is though, all 3 of those fights were very close. You cant imply that if he takes a fight - its a fight hes going to win.

Punchmaster, youN ignoring me now buddy?

No, just sent you an email to the address you had put up in a diff thread I think.

 

[HurricaneEddy]

Im gonna be on the safe side and take the over at -320. Thats got an EXCELLENT chance at hitting and I'll throw it in my parlay for this weekend with the HBO/Showtime fights

 

[The Sponge]

Everyone aware this fight is the 19th and not this Saturday?

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Everyone aware this fight is the 19th and not this Saturday?

I bumped the thread for almly who was asking gw his opinion on this fight, gw gave his opinion in this thread but it was buried on page 2

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[The Sponge]

I bumped the thread for almly who was asking gw his opinion on this fight, gw gave his opinion in this thread but it was buried on page 2

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Boxy i was talking about the threads title. From my view it says April 12th. Im still running windows 99 tho. shhhhh. By the way Box my radio friend is trying to get Hopkins on the air so i might need some questions to ask him. Hopkins always goes on the competing station but i don't see why he can't get him. We all know Hopkins likes to yak and promote his fights. He said he is gonna definitely try. BHop is a little busy tho. We shall see.

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Boxy i was talking about the threads title. From my view it says April 12th. Im still running windows 99 tho. shhhhh. By the way Box my radio friend is trying to get Hopkins on the air so i might need some questions to ask him. Hopkins always goes on the competing station but i don't see why he can't get him. We all know Hopkins likes to yak and promote his fights. He said he is gonna definitely try. BHop is a little busy tho. We shall see.

Its all good Spongie, just letting you know that I wasn't confused on the date of the fight

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[The Sponge]

Its all good Spongie, just letting you know that I wasn't confused on the date of the fight

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Another reason i said that cause a few of you dickheads about three or for months ago were hyping and talking about a fight and i got sucked in reading the thread. Now im all hyped up so I run out get two six's, get all comfy, get out the doug, jump in that big fat recliner of mine, turn on the tube, and wallah the fight was the following week.:mj07:

 

[Romi]

Its all good Spongie, just letting you know that I wasn't confused on the date of the fight

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I edited the date but it's not changing :shrug:

 

[BOXLOCKS]

I edited the date but it's not changing :shrug:

Its changed at the top of page 1, but the title of the thread will not change, just the way it is. Don't sweat it Romi, Sponge is the only one not capable of confirming the date

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[BOXLOCKS]

Another reason i said that cause a few of you dickheads about three or for months ago were hyping and talking about a fight and i got sucked in reading the thread. Now im all hyped up so I run out get two six's, get all comfy, get out the doug, jump in that big fat recliner of mine, turn on the tube, and wallah the fight was the following week.:mj07:

Couldn't happen to a better guy :tongue

At least you still had two 6'ers and "the doug" to keep you company, hell boxing would've been a distraction

Btw, you still got the same load in there or did it turn to dust and force you to re-up after 3 years?

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[The Sponge]

Couldn't happen to a better guy :tongue

At least you still had two 6'ers and "the doug" to keep you company, hell boxing would've been a distraction

Btw, you still got the same load in there or did it turn to dust and force you to re-up after 3 years?

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Finally reloaded but it wouldn't have been if my brother didn't find it. It was also hidden from him for three years. He reloaded it tho but now he knows i have it which sucks. Then again he just got in trouble and stop smoking so it should last another three to five years.:00hour