NBA FRI 032709 early thoughts - value hunting (NO PICKS INSIDE)

axp59

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Atlanta seemingly has a knack for matching up well against Boston - some teams just have others' number; these 2 teams probably won't end up facing each other in the playoffs so anticipate that they'll let it all hang out so to speak.

Hawks not renown for their high-flying scoring prowess (a la Golden State), but reduce most games they play to a down-in-the-trenches affair - not the most aesthetically pleasing/easy-on-the-eyes outfit in the league. Couple that w/ a defensive-anchored Celtics and it could make for a very turgid contest relative to pace.

I have put a bit of consideration into an under play for this game. There's just so many games to look at today. I'm sticking to one game today so I'm in search of that gem.
 

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Ools,

FWIW

Mavs since 1996 in a triple revenge situation playing at home is 31-47 SU, 37-41 ATS..same situation under Friday night lights 3-3 SU, 4-2 ATS

Same situation against good teams (.600+), 17-29 SU 22-24 ATS and against good teams on FRI 1-1 SU and ATS

FYI...BOL pal

Great add on there - already placed a unit on it - like some of the intangibles as I had mentioned
 

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Ools,

FWIW

Mavs since 1996 in a triple revenge situation playing at home is 31-47 SU, 37-41 ATS..same situation under Friday night lights 3-3 SU, 4-2 ATS

Same situation against good teams (.600+), 17-29 SU 22-24 ATS and against good teams on FRI 1-1 SU and ATS

FYI...BOL pal

Ax - can you run that query from 2000-2001 to current season -- avoiding the years before they got good
 

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I was wondering why such high number in Hornets game, they are slow and lack the shooting threat they had with Peja being healthy.

Nate possibly injured his ankle and that might mean less time and slower pace when playing. Duhon gets more time to play, he's a solid defender and also likes to pass alot. So him taking on CP3 should be a good thing and him leading the team for greater extent of time should be even better thing, as Hornets do posses good D.

The both teams have been horrible in shooting three's...Hornets .277 in last 5 (obvious reasons since Peja got hurt) but they are keeping their opps at .286, which should really come in handy vs 3p-tossing Knicks. Oh, btw Knicks are also doing badly beyond the arc with .319 last 5 (including 135 OT pts vs Clips and their non-D where they shot 12/29 .414).


Hornets playing away after a homegame in which they scored u90pts [vs DEN]: 2-4 SU, 0-6 ATS, 3-3 o/u, avg total 188.4, avg score 185.8 (this season).

Knicks have been running alot with D'Antoni yes, but given they've lost 6 in a row you think they would try to get one while still at home.
Important number: Knicks when scoring u100pts are 1-17 SU, losing by 14p avg (89-103).

Can they score 100 on Hornets tonight ? Can Hornets, with their anemic offense score 100 themselves ?

Hornets 91, Knicks 94 ?
 
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Or do they both come out of their 3 pt shooting slumps and score 120 each lol...doubt it but i think there is better games to cap... If nate is in I kinda like knicks +5 ... peja and chandler being out and knicks losing their last 5. but hey :shrug:
 

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I know you've done this b4 Slicer - but cud you explain your 'take' on the Accuscores for both Col and Pro. For instance, we know from following Ax - u look for a # that falls nicely into a 3 pos. variance and then go deeper. Ex: all these col scores that u put w/ accuscore interactive look very close. How do you use/interpret them?

Basiclaly I use accuscore as my baseline pre-capping outlook. From there I delve into the matchups, stats/trends and situational factors around a game.

Should anyone use accuscore as the sole selector of games? OF COURSE NOT!, if it was hugely reliable everyone and their mother would have it. As for the college numbers tonight, yes I would expect them to be tight the rest of the way, LVSC are not dummies (well ok Memp/Mizzou total was outta whack) but most of the time they are very close.

Even the close ones I take a look at for plays, but they are last on my list, basically if anything jumps off the page in terms of variance, I use it to scout that game first, find an edge if there is one and slam home those lines before they adjust for overnight betting.

Establishing my charts (and btw, if you go to the interactive chart and click Sheet3, you'll find NBA variance records etc, just like Sheet 2 was Conference NCAA play records)

Any system is bound to be a 50/50 proposition, it's what you do with the information that ultimately makes it's value appear.
 

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Ax - can you run that query from 2000-2001 to current season -- avoiding the years before they got good

from 2000/01 season

DAL triple revenge at home situation

11-8 SU
9-10 ATS

on FRI
1-0 SU
0-1 ATS

and vs. .600+ teams

7-6 SU
6-7 ATS

on FRI

no data

hope this helps
 

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my final card for today

CHA +5,5
SAS -12
NO -5 (POD)
CLE -14
ATL ML
DEN +5
LAL@NJN O205

the only total I like is the over in NJ!

BOL :0corn
Joe

edit: no big plays! only the POD is 1u
 

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My $0.02 on the CHA/PHI matchup.

CHA shows all the signs of a young team not dealing well with the pressure of the playoff race. After their blown lead against WAS last game, they were blaming the press for putting undue pressure on them to make the playoffs.

PHI wants to maintain 5th spot in the conference due to 1st round playoff implications.

I also think that PHI is a better team.

The lower the line goes, the more I like PHI.


One total that has my attention is NOR/NYK

NOR avenging any loss this season
o/u 6-16 averaging 191.1

team=Hornets and P:points < Po:points and season=2008


NOR avenging a home loss
O/U is 2-6 average 195.1

team=Hornets and P:points < Po:points and P:site=home and season=2008


NOR avenging a home loss when playing away next time the teams meet
O/U is 2-2 but averaging 192.1

team=Hornets and P:points < Po:points and P:site=home and season=2008 and site=away
 

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great work ax

great work ax

hi ax i'm new to this site . keep up the great work hopefully we can get back on the winning streak . any word yet on chumps cbb plays for today.
 

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That was you MLB??? nice man! I don't forget bits of info like that. I got to catch some of that game and was thinking the whole time about what you said. Man, I am humbled sir. BOL as always

Yeah, they played one heck of a game. I will be on them again vs Uconn. Both +5.5 and moneyline. The way Missouri paces the game will keep Uconn from exploiting their size and skill advantage with Thabeet. Some people still think Missouri is just a fluke, but this team is for real.

For tonight I am really liking Oklahoma and Kansas in College and the Spurs/Clipp Under 192 in NBA.
 

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ax

ax

have you taken a look at the 76ers total liking this under play at 188 , under is 7-3-1 in last 11 meetings and 36-17-2 in the last 55 home games for them ..would like your take on it..thanks
 
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