Belichick could get suspended from the Super Bowl

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And how about players from the Ravens & Colts that have incentives built into their contracts for reaching/winning the Super Bowl.....NFL put the hammer down on AP & Rice for non-football related issues....Now you have a team/coach messing with the integrity of the game.... interesting to see where this goes....:0corn

Ah, it doesn't really matter, just tell to never to do it again. :0003
 

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MJ, serious question here. Why does it really matter if the balls were under inflated? Brady likes a ball that's not as hard, who cares. If someone had balls over inflated would people be upset? I'm being serious here, I just don't think it's that big of a deal. This didn't hurt the Colts, their balls had the same inflation they normally have.


"The balls are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces. No alteration of footballs is allowed once they are approved, under league rules and regulations."


seriously?......the balls have to be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi...if brady has trouble throwing correctly inflated footballs in cold/wet weather and the pats tampered with the footballs to give brady 'some help" that`s illegal.....

blowout or not,rules don`t count if you`re brady and the pats?...

the only thing that could save the pats would be if the nfl finds that the balls were inflated incorrectly by accident,deflated naturally due to weather conditions (or mortensen`s full of shit and the reporting with "unnamed sources" is bogus)....which may happen...they certainly don`t need another scandal...
 
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It was suggested in an article I read. I think it would serve him right, why does he think he can keep cheating? He must think there are no consequences for cheating in the NFL.

So, no, it wasn't a joke. I hardly doubt it would happen but I'm sure there are a shitpile of people that would like to see it happen.



http://www.wthr.com/story/27898974/deflategate-nfl-confirms-patriots-footballs-under-inflated

It is getting ridiculous. I wonder if they had anything on the eagles in 2004 :mad:
 

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It is getting ridiculous. I wonder if they had anything on the eagles in 2004 :mad:

What's ridiculous about it?

If the NFL finds that the Pats intentionally deflated the footballs because Brady is more comfortable with a ball that is not a regulation ball, what should the penalty be and since it's a second offense of manipulating the rules should the penalty be more severe or not?
 

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"The balls are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces. No alteration of footballs is allowed once they are approved, under league rules and regulations."


seriously?......the balls have to be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi...if brady has trouble throwing correctly inflated footballs in cold/wet weather and the pats tampered with the footballs to give brady 'some help" that`s illegal.....

blowout or not,rules don`t count if you`re brady and the pats?...

the only thing that could acquit the pats would be if the nfl finds that the balls were inflated incorrectly by accident....which may happen...they certainly don`t need another scandal...

I guess I just don't see it being as bad. I have no dog in the fight, my Steelers are long gone. It's funny how nobody is complaining about Aaron Rodgers saying he has them over inflate the balls past the limits.
 

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What's ridiculous about it?

If the NFL finds that the Pats intentionally deflated the footballs because Brady is more comfortable with a ball that is not a regulation ball, what should the penalty be and since it's a second offense of manipulating the rules should the penalty be more severe or not?

preach it bro !!!!...jack has the moral high ground to bitch about this... I happen to know for a fact that jack`s balls are always in spec !....(don`t ask)...
 

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I guess I just don't see it being as bad. I have no dog in the fight, my Steelers are long gone. It's funny how nobody is complaining about Aaron Rodgers saying he has them over inflate the balls past the limits.

there could very well be a rational explanation,l.w........I doubt the nfl wants to find that this was a deliberate breaking of the rules....

we`ll see...
 

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I find it laughable the NFL dictates shoe color,end zone celebrations, virtually every aspect of the game, yet apparently doesn't control the
sanctity of the game balls....

What if the balls were properly inflated in a 75 degree environment and sat on the sidelines for hours in a game time 40 something conditions?

Ever looked closely at your summer inflated tires on the first cold day of fall?
 

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I find it laughable the NFL dictates shoe color,end zone celebrations, virtually every aspect of the game, yet apparently doesn't control the
sanctity of the game balls....

What if the balls were properly inflated in a 75 degree environment and sat on the sidelines for hours in a game time 40 something conditions?

Ever looked closely at your summer inflated tires on the first cold day of fall?

If they checked the Colts footballs after the game that question could be answered. I have not seen anything saying that they checked the Colts.
 

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What's ridiculous about it?

If the NFL finds that the Pats intentionally deflated the footballs because Brady is more comfortable with a ball that is not a regulation ball, what should the penalty be and since it's a second offense of manipulating the rules should the penalty be more severe or not?

I was just referring to the pats cheating multiple times over the years. That's ridiculous. There was a time when I thought they were just that great but I don't know what to believe anymore..:shrug:

I remember admiring them after the St. Louis Super Bowl victory
 

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As far as deflated footballs are concerned...

If you've ever played at any level you'd have to agree that in a ball carriers hands it has to easier to keep it in your hands especially in cold wet conditions..

Can't remember how Blunt did in that game? Was he beast? :0002
 

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I was just referring to the pats cheating multiple times over the years. That's ridiculous. There was a time when I thought they were just that great but I don't know what to believe anymore..:shrug:

I remember admiring them after the St. Louis Super Bowl victory

Sorry, misread it.

Right. I wonder what else they have been doing? They even tried some weird shit with eligible or ineligible players vs the Ravens the week before. Always some angle with this team.

Colts alerted the refs before the game to check the balls because they suspected something fishy when they played them in Indy. Refs checked the balls. The balls were fine. Then a few hours later, after the Pats had the balls, they are not fine. WTF? Who tampered with them?

Brady has said in the past that he prefers a ball that has less air. He can grip it better. So they change the official equipment to suit him? That's like doctoring a baseball or baseball bat. It's cheating, plain and simple.

A $25,000 fine is not enough of a penalty for Billichick.
 

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If they checked the Colts footballs after the game that question could be answered. I have not seen anything saying that they checked the Colts.

They said on ESPN that the Colts balls all had 13 pounds.
 

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It definitely didn't change the outcome of the game as they clearly beat the Colts but what about the week before when they beat the Ravens on the last drive? I think they should take away the Pats AFCC title and give it to the Ravens and the Ravens play Seattle in the SB. :0003
 

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Whether everyone allegedly does it or not, this is a huge story now. A lot more people are talking about this than they are the State of the Union last night. The NFL has a team that everyone outside of their own fan base feels cheated that is getting to play for the league championship. Under the Unfair Acts section of the rule book, the NFL can punish the Patriots however they want, up to and including, disqualifying them from the game, or making them play the game again. You are talking a logistical nightmare here, but if the NFL really wants to make a statement about cheating they should disqualify the Patriots and send the Colts. This game now has a huge asterisk by it anyway.

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It definitely didn't change the outcome of the game as they clearly beat the Colts but what about the week before when they beat the Ravens on the last drive? I think they should take away the Pats AFCC title and give it to the Ravens and the Ravens play Seattle in the SB. :0003


There's no way of knowing how many extra plays/drives the Colts D had to potentially stay on the field by the Pats using an altered ball.....What a mess
 

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I keep listening to media.....while most people admit the balls probably had some influence on the game although its debatable how much.....some people keep saying the outcome wasnt changed... I know theres already discussions on it but I am bored at work..

I know its not worth much, but my opinion is w/the majority that it matters. ..

the weather in foxboro that night was not fun....and brady had a much easier time slingin the rock then did luck...because of the alterations they had made....cheating....period...you made secret alterations that helped your team win by creating an unfair advantage.....because they hid it, makes me personally think they obviously knew it was wrong

And if it really isnt an advantage, and doesnt matter, then why in the world would the pats risk it and also t1rent dilfer pay nearly 10 k to make it happen 10 yrs ago....
To take that kind of risk, there is obviously a significant reward. ...like being able to accuratley throw the rock when your opponent struggles gripping the legit rock because of weather.....

What if w/the regulation filled balls even just one play was changed...just one... ....Tom Brady, because of bad grip, throws a INT that the colts take to the house when it was 7-0....instead of 14-0 and all mojo w/ pats, its a tie game that would have meant a colts lead at half by a score of 14-10....huge....just from one play.....a 10 point deficit is now a 4 point lead....


The fact that people say it's crazy to think the balls used changed the outcome, is just as crazy as the statement they think is crazy....

We never know what woulda happened w/o spygate and now this.....because of that they are all tainted to me....

But more importantly, I still think brady and hoodie couldve had similar if not equal success w/o being cheaters...which is the most confusing part to me...

Either they werent confident they could win fairly, or they dont realize how good these teams are regardless of rules....because these pats teams past few years and the early 2000's are loaded.. ...perhaps they felt the pressure of not winning one in 12 years and this was the first time cheating since the last time.....more likely however is that they have found advantages by bending/breaking rules elsewhere...but either way I dont think they needed to...



But my point and question.....pats cant be only one doing this right? Either they are, or they are the worst at hiding it and just are only ones who get caught...have any others recently been accused?
 
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