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Democrats are hypocrites, do as I say not as I do.

Really? Hypocrites?

Okay, then tell us about yourself. You pay your child support; WTF else do you do? How many hours have you spent helping your children with their homework? How many times have you taken them to the doctor or dentist? How many times have you held them in your arms when they were frightened? How many times have you taught them how to be responsible people? How have you provided for their education?

What have you taught them about social responsibility? When have you taught them to respect people of other races or religions?

What have you done to guide them towards a good education and future?

In what way have you taught them to respect the institution of marriage? How have you taught them to love and respect their spouse?

What example of how a REAL man lives his life have you set for them?

Hypocrites? Look in the mirror.

Here's a hint for you: Look at the young people who are amoral, criminals, druggies, a pestilence on society.

Then look at their father.

Mirror, mirror on the wall.
 

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Give Away?? Skully.. have you ever heard the term "Corp[orate Welfare" We already have "Socialism" But it's for the rich... The F'n Idiot Reagan Barfed about "Trickle Down" It's been trickling up ever since.. Now go look at the Drumpf's tax cut... Guess who's gonna get the tax cuts yup da .. Drumpf !!!!!! As i have said... Republicans Uneducated Whites are SLOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can't seem to give enough away, FREE EVERYTHING

Buying VOTES?
 

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fucking hypocrites. Build a wall around the stage and around the arena but Trump wants a border they cry like little babies that need a bottle or their mommy's titties. There you go again with the personal attack right out of the liberal playbook. Your party has no substance at all, no core values except free everything and the rich to pay for it :lol:



Come on Hedgie U are straining me to the max not to used the "D " word.... There will never ever ever ever be a wall built....... Only a
Slow" person wd believe that lie.
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And as The folks down under have said .....If the monkey w the orange hair builds a wall We will create a million jobs building Catapults and digging tunnels.................

""" Go ahead make our day" Monkey !!!!



AWWWW Hedgie I am getting un constipated........Does da Drumpf have any thing but Personal Attacks..


Seriously ???????????
 

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Perhaps at the DNC tonight they can take a few seconds out of the program for a moment of silence as the Federal debt per US citizen passes $60,000.00 for every man woman and child in these United States.
Kum ba Yah. I am so pleased the Deficit under Obama has been so dramatically cut.. Keep up the fine work.
 

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Really? Hypocrites?

Okay, then tell us about yourself. You pay your child support; WTF else do you do? How many hours have you spent helping your children with their homework? How many times have you taken them to the doctor or dentist? How many times have you held them in your arms when they were frightened? How many times have you taught them how to be responsible people? How have you provided for their education?

What have you taught them about social responsibility? When have you taught them to respect people of other races or religions?

What have you done to guide them towards a good education and future?

In what way have you taught them to respect the institution of marriage? How have you taught them to love and respect their spouse?

What example of how a REAL man lives his life have you set for them?

Hypocrites? Look in the mirror.

Here's a hint for you: Look at the young people who are amoral, criminals, druggies, a pestilence on society.

Then look at their father.

Mirror, mirror on the wall.

You would be shocked if you knew, they are more than taken care of I promise you :0008
 

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So you thought Trump's speech where he threw out all the numbers that were completely false, lied, said he's got a really good plan to fix everything but can't tell you what the plan is just that it's really really good, and talked about all that terrorism we aren't getting hit with, you think that was good political television?

Any or all Republicans,
Explain to me exactly what you would do to fix poverty. You don't want to make minimum wage a livable wage, yet you want to do away with assistance and food stamps. Basically just kill them off through starvation? Okay so genocide is one republican ideal.
How about abortion, you want to force women to have babies, yet you don't want those now burdened women to make enough money to live on, no assistance for her or the kid, and no health care or affordable insurance or pharmaceuticals either. So starve, torture them, let them suffer and die. So infanticide. Got it.
I'm guessing that free education is out of the question, yep I already know it is, so God forbid any if these kids you forced to suffer for 18 years have no chance at a job.
But luckily, we're going to subsidize the wealthy and their corporations, while giving them healthy tax breaks to make sure they get even richer.
That way we can all do the Oliver Twist.........more porridge sir?


7 years I've been waiting for a republican to lay out a plan for the future of the country that doesn't start with kool-aid, libtard, and the Muslim Obama, still waiting

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I can't believe I'm getting involved with this Cris but here is what I'm sick of.


I realize that there are many people in America that need assistance and those that truly need that assistance I am wholeheartedly in favor of them getting it. But by damned there are so many...so fucking many able bodied people out there that are taking advantage of this to the fullest extent. I posted a story on here probably years ago about a senerio that I witnessed at a local convienence store and just this past Sunday night I have another.

So I ask Chicky what she wants for supper Sunday evening and we both agree that we'll fire up the charcoal and make some steaks. So I run over to the grocery store and load the cart with supplies and head to the checkout. The chic in front of me unloads her cart on the belt and she's got steaks, chicken breasts, seafood, deli items, ect ect ect. I"' guessing this girl was mid 20s dressed really nice with Under Armor clothes , nails done, perfect hair, hell this chic was just fucking hot. I'm thinking to myself "Damn this little young babe has her shit together and is living life!" Then it happened.


After the clerk rang all her shit up to a total of $265.38 she whips out the ole ACCESS card to pay for it! I could have just about vomited. Here is this mid 20 something girl dressed to the 9s with a whole cart load of high end groceries with a welfare card? To top it off.... When I walk out of the store she's loading these high end free groceries in a brand fucking new Ford Explorer!!!! I don't care if you are Democrat, Republican. Or just a plain idiot, but that's complete and total bullshit in my book. No one and I mean NO ONE who receives government assistance should be buying high end groceries and driving brand fucking new cars!!! People that need help need fucking food to live! Not fucking shrimp, scallops, and a fucking new Explorer! So yeah.... That totally chaps my ass!!
 

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Come on Hedgie U are straining me to the max not to used the "D " word.... There will never ever ever ever be a wall built....... Only a
Slow" person wd believe that lie.
'
And as The folks down under have said .....If the monkey w the orange hair builds a wall We will create a million jobs building Catapults and digging tunnels.................

""" Go ahead make our day" Monkey !!!!



AWWWW Hedgie I am getting un constipated........Does da Drumpf have any thing but Personal Attacks..


Seriously ???????????

ELON MUSK

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Elon Musk's growing empire is fueled by $4.9 billion in government subsidies


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html
 

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Give Away?? Skully.. have you ever heard the term "Corp[orate Welfare" We already have "Socialism" But it's for the rich... The F'n Idiot Reagan Barfed about "Trickle Down" It's been trickling up ever since.. Now go look at the Drumpf's tax cut... Guess who's gonna get the tax cuts yup da .. Drumpf !!!!!! As i have said... Republicans Uneducated Whites are SLOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://blogs.barrons.com/emergingmarketsdaily/2016/05/11/clinton-son-in-law-shuts-losing-greece-hedge-fund/

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000019

http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/bill-clinton-hillary-net-worth-president-how-much-foundation-speaking/

http://nypost.com/2016/02/05/inside-hillarys-675k-worth-of-goldman-speaking-fees/
 

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I can't believe I'm getting involved with this Cris but here is what I'm sick of.


I realize that there are many people in America that need assistance and those that truly need that assistance I am wholeheartedly in favor of them getting it. But by damned there are so many...so fucking many able bodied people out there that are taking advantage of this to the fullest extent. I posted a story on here probably years ago about a senerio that I witnessed at a local convienence store and just this past Sunday night I have another.

So I ask Chicky what she wants for supper Sunday evening and we both agree that we'll fire up the charcoal and make some steaks. So I run over to the grocery store and load the cart with supplies and head to the checkout. The chic in front of me unloads her cart on the belt and she's got steaks, chicken breasts, seafood, deli items, ect ect ect. I"' guessing this girl was mid 20s dressed really nice with Under Armor clothes , nails done, perfect hair, hell this chic was just fucking hot. I'm thinking to myself "Damn this little young babe has her shit together and is living life!" Then it happened.


After the clerk rang all her shit up to a total of $265.38 she whips out the ole ACCESS card to pay for it! I could have just about vomited. Here is this mid 20 something girl dressed to the 9s with a whole cart load of high end groceries with a welfare card? To top it off.... When I walk out of the store she's loading these high end free groceries in a brand fucking new Ford Explorer!!!! I don't care if you are Democrat, Republican. Or just a plain idiot, but that's complete and total bullshit in my book. No one and I mean NO ONE who receives government assistance should be buying high end groceries and driving brand fucking new cars!!! People that need help need fucking food to live! Not fucking shrimp, scallops, and a fucking new Explorer! So yeah.... That totally chaps my ass!!
Can I ask you something? Do you truly know the circumstances in which that young woman lives? Do you know if she wasn't left by a shitty abusive husband and had a job but doesn't make enough to pay for everything and maybe that's the vehicle she was left in the divorce and that and her nails mean something to her? Should she suffer and be made to look like a poor person? Just saying?

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Can I ask you something? Do you truly know the circumstances in which that young woman lives? Do you know if she wasn't left by a shitty abusive husband and had a job but doesn't make enough to pay for everything and maybe that's the vehicle she was left in the divorce and that and her nails mean something to her? Should she suffer and be made to look like a poor person? Just saying?

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No Cris, I don't know this particular womans "situation" but even if she was left by a shitty husband and left the brand new car through a divorce, are you saying its simply ok that this particular woman can go to the grocery store and buy $265 worth of high end groceries paid for by the welfare system? It's perfectly ok with you that people on assistance use that money for luxury items? I assure you this woman didn't appear to be "suffering" by any means. Like I said before I have no problem with those that actually need help to survive. What I do have a problem with is those that live beyond their means and feel entitled to what everyone else has that earned it.
My whole point here is there are way to many people receiving benefits that simply don't need it. They have it because they can get it and take full advantage of it. I may add more to this later.
 

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No Cris, I don't know this particular womans "situation" but even if she was left by a shitty husband and left the brand new car through a divorce, are you saying its simply ok that this particular woman can go to the grocery store and buy $265 worth of high end groceries paid for by the welfare system? It's perfectly ok with you that people on assistance use that money for luxury items? I assure you this woman didn't appear to be "suffering" by any means. Like I said before I have no problem with those that actually need help to survive. What I do have a problem with is those that live beyond their means and feel entitled to what everyone else has that earned it.
My whole point here is there are way to many people receiving benefits that simply don't need it. They have it because they can get it and take full advantage of it. I may add more to this later.

Lol high end groceries.

She can buy what the program allows her to buy.

You have zero idea about her but just hate her because she is.Getting chicken and steaks.

How do you know she doesn't need it?

How do you know she isn't suffering?

Who made you the decider on these things?
 

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Lol high end groceries.

She can buy what the program allows her to buy.

You have zero idea about her but just hate her because she is.Getting chicken and steaks.

How do you know she doesn't need it?

How do you know she isn't suffering?

Who made you the decider on these things?

Yeah Shawny.... high end groceries. So you think she needs those steaks eh? With a welfare card? You know the canned soup and ramen noodles are a couple isles over.
It's obvious that you were raised without learning any responsibility and accountability.
 

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Maybe she buys those cards 30 cents on the dollar. :0003
 

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Maybe she buys those cards 30 cents on the dollar. :0003

You know that's a possibility because what I failed to mention was she refused to swipe the card and wanted to enter the card number manually on the CC terminal at the checkout.

And furthermore Shawn... where you got spouting off that I "hate" this woman is beyond me. Good thing she wasn't black, Asian or Mexican or you'd be calling me racist too you feeble minded fuck.
 
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Yeah Shawny.... high end groceries. So you think she needs those steaks eh? With a welfare card? You know the canned soup and ramen noodles are a couple isles over.
It's obvious that you were raised without learning any responsibility and accountability.

Look here, PaSprint: from what you have posted here over time, I think you're probably an okay, straight thinking guy, but...

I don't think you know much about the "food stamp" (actually it's a pre-loaded debit card) system works.

Your qualify for nutrition assistance based on your income and family size. In this state, if you have zero income and a family with four children, you get the maximum, about $300/month.

I shop at Aldis from time to time because they have the best prices - Winking Owl wines for $3. I don't buy anything else there because the quality is a bit below the Publix where I buy everything else, but what fresh produce, staples and meat they sell is okay if you are hungry enough.

Most of the other shoppers there are on food stamps, SNAP, if you prefer.

Some of them are obviously disabled, some are very elderly, and, yes, some (but not most) are black or Hispanic.

They load up their carts with the cheapest foods they can find: rice, noodles, three-day old veggies and fruits, a bit of tough chicken or greasy hamburger. That's all $300/month will cover for a family.

Yes, they get something to eat, enough to keep them alive. I don't see any wine, or ice cream, or candies or other items in their carts. Aldis doesn't even sell T-bone or other prime cuts of meat.

I don't know most of those folks, or why they need SNAp assistance, but I can assure you, they do not eat high on the hawg.

You should shop with them someday at a bottom-end grocery.
 

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Yeah Shawny.... high end groceries. So you think she needs those steaks eh? With a welfare card? You know the canned soup and ramen noodles are a couple isles over.
It's obvious that you were raised without learning any responsibility and accountability.

Bro,
Take a breath and truly think about what you wrote here. Do you "need" steaks? If course not, but you get them because they taste good. You probably even get a better cut because they taste even better. Hell, I bet you even use real butter like the folks that lived at the top of the hill in my childhood neighborhood. That's what your income allows you to do. Great. Have you honestly allowed yourself to forget when your wage didn't allow ribeyes? Every once in a while you'd get then anyway to treat yourself, right? Did you think it was irresponsible or wanton disregard for your financial situation? Do you think having a losing week gambling and getting canned soup and ramen noodles instead of steak means you lack accountability and responsibility to the greater good? People are poor and hungry, they need jobs and every once in a while a sympathetic ear and a chance.
I love you bro, I do, but take a minute to think about when you forgot who you were when you would have even considered the notion that she may have been a military wife with a husband on deployment, and you weren't mad at everyone.


Hope this helps,
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I am not sure how people can deny the system is filled with flaws. Many people take advantage of it. When a guy like Sprint brings it up it doesn't help that everyone jumps on him like he doesn't want to help the people that need it.

By the new car and the clothes and the stuff she bought....don't forget a person in real need has to stretch the $300 a month to feed herself and her 4 kids so she is not probably loading up on steaks.

Maybe her husband is self employed, a contractor, works 6 months on the books and 6 months under the table. This happens all the time.

It's a shame because it gives the whole program a bad name and takes away from people who really need it.
 
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