Don Imus at it again

smurphy

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I did stay out of it for most Matt--it was the ole slavery issue the PC police like to throw out there as excuse for failure that got me in it.

Everyone has 24 hours in a day--what they do with it determines their future.

If a person of any race or gender can't make it here--name one place they can.

Take off the PC glasses for a minute and tell us who you think has more opportunity--the ancestors of the slaves brought over here are the ancestors of those that weren't.

The PC police would like you to believe that people in africa wouldn't give their eye teeth to come over here under any circumstances--and that those that were brought here- immediately lined up to purchase ticket back at 1st opportunity.

That would be liberal logic at it's finest.

Since it's pointless to go back and forth with you on everything you've completely misinterpreted yet again - I would like to simlpy ask:

What is your point? When you provide stats that show a greater % of 'failure' (for lack of better word) among blacks than anyone else ....What is your point? What are you saying? What is the root purpose of such posts?



people in africa wouldn't give their eye teeth to come over here under any circumstances-

...and WTF is an "eye teeth"?
 
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smurphy

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I feel like the kid in class who has had this hand up long enough that he has resorted to supporting it with his other arm, all the while saying "ooh ooh teacher, teacher"

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

And the teacher reluctantly sighs and says "OK, Robert..." only because he has already picked every other raised hand. ....But the teacher fears what is about to be said and regrets calling on Imfeklr even before he opens his mouth. ....Oh shit, very poor choice of words.:scared....kurby kurby kurby
 

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I know one thing that's for should...I'm sick of seeing Kyle Korver's mug...

I would like to challenge Wayne's commentary a little, and at the risk of being repetitive, I'll just copy and paste my post of several pages back. Again, if anyone cares to refute, it, feel free.

"I agree with your post for the most part, however to totally dismiss how a person starts out, the environment they learn about life (from the beginning) in, and the initial opportunities they are provided, is not looking at the whole picture. Those who overcome truly difficult starts are the ones that should be held to high standard and should be admired, no doubt. But they simply have more to overcome and more difficulty in achieving it. To compare a poor child (of any color) to a child born into a more wealthy environment just doesn't add up. There can be no doubt (IMO) that those starting out with money around them have a better chance to succeed than those who don't. If anyone can explain to me how this is untrue, go for it. And if you can't, then therein lies the big difference.

Of course, those with money have their own issues, some of which can be quite problematic for achieving success. But I'd say on the whole, the difficulties encountered there deal with personal decisions, too, don't they?

Bottom line - who here really thinks that a baby born in the ghetto, to a single mom, has as good a chance to succeed in life as does a person born into a millionaire's home? Seriously?"
 

justin22g

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I know one thing that's for should...I'm sick of seeing Kyle Korver's mug...

I would like to challenge Wayne's commentary a little, and at the risk of being repetitive, I'll just copy and paste my post of several pages back. Again, if anyone cares to refute, it, feel free.

"I agree with your post for the most part, however to totally dismiss how a person starts out, the environment they learn about life (from the beginning) in, and the initial opportunities they are provided, is not looking at the whole picture. Those who overcome truly difficult starts are the ones that should be held to high standard and should be admired, no doubt. But they simply have more to overcome and more difficulty in achieving it. To compare a poor child (of any color) to a child born into a more wealthy environment just doesn't add up. There can be no doubt (IMO) that those starting out with money around them have a better chance to succeed than those who don't. If anyone can explain to me how this is untrue, go for it. And if you can't, then therein lies the big difference.

Of course, those with money have their own issues, some of which can be quite problematic for achieving success. But I'd say on the whole, the difficulties encountered there deal with personal decisions, too, don't they?

Bottom line - who here really thinks that a baby born in the ghetto, to a single mom, has as good a chance to succeed in life as does a person born into a millionaire's home? Seriously?"


exactly... crime is not a race problem, it is a lower class problem. but these two are correlated.
 

kellyindallas

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I know one thing that's for should...I'm sick of seeing Kyle Korver's mug...

I would like to challenge Wayne's commentary a little, and at the risk of being repetitive, I'll just copy and paste my post of several pages back. Again, if anyone cares to refute, it, feel free.

"I agree with your post for the most part, however to totally dismiss how a person starts out, the environment they learn about life (from the beginning) in, and the initial opportunities they are provided, is not looking at the whole picture. Those who overcome truly difficult starts are the ones that should be held to high standard and should be admired, no doubt. But they simply have more to overcome and more difficulty in achieving it. To compare a poor child (of any color) to a child born into a more wealthy environment just doesn't add up. There can be no doubt (IMO) that those starting out with money around them have a better chance to succeed than those who don't. If anyone can explain to me how this is untrue, go for it. And if you can't, then therein lies the big difference.

Of course, those with money have their own issues, some of which can be quite problematic for achieving success. But I'd say on the whole, the difficulties encountered there deal with personal decisions, too, don't they?

Bottom line - who here really thinks that a baby born in the ghetto, to a single mom, has as good a chance to succeed in life as does a person born into a millionaire's home? Seriously?"
Well, you're in luck. I will soon be requesting a change to Rafael Nadal.
 

UGA12

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I know one thing that's for should...I'm sick of seeing Kyle Korver's mug...

I would like to challenge Wayne's commentary a little, and at the risk of being repetitive, I'll just copy and paste my post of several pages back. Again, if anyone cares to refute, it, feel free.

"I agree with your post for the most part, however to totally dismiss how a person starts out, the environment they learn about life (from the beginning) in, and the initial opportunities they are provided, is not looking at the whole picture. Those who overcome truly difficult starts are the ones that should be held to high standard and should be admired, no doubt. But they simply have more to overcome and more difficulty in achieving it. To compare a poor child (of any color) to a child born into a more wealthy environment just doesn't add up. There can be no doubt (IMO) that those starting out with money around them have a better chance to succeed than those who don't. If anyone can explain to me how this is untrue, go for it. And if you can't, then therein lies the big difference.

Of course, those with money have their own issues, some of which can be quite problematic for achieving success. But I'd say on the whole, the difficulties encountered there deal with personal decisions, too, don't they?

Bottom line - who here really thinks that a baby born in the ghetto, to a single mom, has as good a chance to succeed in life as does a person born into a millionaire's home? Seriously?"

Agree
 

gardenweasel

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Bottom line - who here really thinks that a baby born in the ghetto, to a single mom, has as good a chance to succeed in life as does a person born into a millionaire's home? Seriously?"

you mean like,say,oprah`s house vs the little shithole i grew in on stricker st in baltimore city?....

i guess i bucked the odds...

/cue elvis


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVFnhO3A98

"people dontcha` unerstand,weasel needs a helpin` hand,or he`s gonna be an angry young man some day".....


(that goes double for kosar)...
 
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Chadman

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I suppose I agree with your analogy, and seems you agree with me. Am I missing something, Wease? Do you disagree with my point? Do you think you would have had a better start at success in Oprah's house with those opportunities, or at, um, your little shithole (as you put it, not me...)?

I'm not saying you didn't do well, although I really don't know, to be completely honest. Hard to know what anyone is really all about - never met any of you. You do seem like a nice enough fellow, in some cases...:tongue
 

gardenweasel

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I suppose I agree with your analogy, and seems you agree with me. Am I missing something, Wease? Do you disagree with my point? Do you think you would have had a better start at success in Oprah's house with those opportunities, or at, um, your little shithole (as you put it, not me...)?

I'm not saying you didn't do well, although I really don't know, to be completely honest. Hard to know what anyone is really all about - never met any of you. You do seem like a nice enough fellow, in some cases...:tongue

i luv ya` brother....you didn`t need me to tell ya` that....

we got history on here...
 
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