In all reality the arguing is all for not. Bama is by far and away the best team. Problem is Bama is likely to be the best team for the next 3 years. Hurts seems like he has a confidence that not many young QBs have. I can't imagine how comfortable he's going to be next year and the years after that. It's going to be hard to slow that train down.
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They are a good football team for sure. The defense is arguably the best its ever been but mostly against a weak SEC schedule. Destroyed Southern Cal early . We will see. It s a great time to be a Bama fan . Weakness is no backup QB, and running game is just average at best and kicking game is awful. But the rest is pretty dang good for sure.
osu has only 1 loss and beat okla in non-conference play and beat mich - if psu would have beaten pitt then they would have an argument but osu had the better resume and only 1 loss so hth and conf championship wasn't going to trump that in this case
to put it another way, let's say hypothetically that psu lost their game to temple, would you still have them in over osu? they would have still won conference and hth against osu
in this way of picking playoff teams the whole season counts, not just conference play - that is why osu is in and psu is out
the formula for an 8 team playoff would be so easy.....
5 conf champs, 1 non power 5 school and 2 wildcard spots - guess that makes too much sense though
5 conf champs, 1 non power 5 school and 2 wildcard spots - guess that makes too much sense though
Why in the hell would I make a bet with a total stranger, when I can place all the wagers I want with the reputable Sportsbooks that are preferred here at Madjacks? Besides, I didn't say I would be taking the Buckeyes, did I? I just wanted to point out that your statement that Ohio State will get "worked" by Clemson because they have NO offensive weapons was delusional. What are you saying by "get worked"? Are you saying Clemson will beat them by 20? 30? or more?
CHASDEE .. I personally can't wait to take oh st vs Clemson... I haven't been a believer in clemson all year... Yes they've kept winning but just don't think they're that good.. I love oh st in this one.. JMO..I know it doesn't mean jack to anyone but throwing my 2 cents in .. That's all
OWENS.....your opinion counts as much as anybody's! There will be plenty of people betting on Ohio State, that's for sure!
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Because I will give you the 3 points :00hour
You seemed confident to call me out on my prediction but now are taking a step back.
In relevance to OSU being a respectable elite program, yes OSU has weapons. But is respect to having elite weapons who will make a difference in a game against elite level talent? No shot moreno. Ohio St will only win this game if Clemson's offense gives it away.
Clemson has the better QB, WR, RB, 2nd WR, 2nd RB
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Lets say hypothetically 3-9 Sparty converts the 2pt conversion, would you still have OSU over PSU? You can't slam one teams close calls without calling out another. I would take PSU's close wins over these teams you seem to consider not that good over OSU's wins over the terrible teams they've beaten.
Temple = AAC champions. Pitt = won @ Clemson...but somehow those are bad wins? :mj07:
How is beating 3-9 MSU and 6-6 Northwestern not bad wins for OSU then?
I can't see how a team can get in that did not win their conference and lost heads up to that conference champion. Maybe the conference champ doesn't get in, but Ohio St should not be in, IMO
This year, no playoff would have been easy. No controversy at all. The national champ would be a no-brainer pick. :0corn
This year, no playoff would have been easy. No controversy at all. The national champ would be a no-brainer pick. :0corn
One last remark by me on picking the Final 4.
Next year the committee should do this. You have 5 power conferences, and you have the rankings of the Top 4 you have to contend with. If for any reason you have teams that are not going to be in their conference championship but have a 1 game better record than teams going into the conference title games, when a team is ranked in the top 4 and ends up with a loss, they can not be in the Top 4, drop them out like a 6 or a 7, Clemson stayed in the Top 4 with a loss to Pitt, Ohio State was in the Top 4 after a loss on the road to Penn St, Michigan stayed in the Top 4 after a loss to Iowa, seems to me all the committee cared about is how much money the teams in the BIG would bring to the championship playoffs on to pay top ticket prices and sponsor money would be there which is a fiasco. It's always about money and screw the Conference Championships, why even have them if they mean nothing to the Playoff committee? If a team loses a game and they are in the TOP 4, drop them 4 spots automatically, no matter if it's a 1 playing a 2 and both are undefeated at the time they play head to head, etc., etc.
Fair is fair. This whole system sucks.
Put the best teams in the Top 4? Really? Even if they didn't even win their division or conference title? That's total BULLSHIT!!
Period! End of story!!
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Next year the committee should do this. You have 5 power conferences, and you have the rankings of the Top 4 you have to contend with. If for any reason you have teams that are not going to be in their conference championship but have a 1 game better record than teams going into the conference title games, when a team is ranked in the top 4 and ends up with a loss, they can not be in the Top 4, drop them out like a 6 or a 7, Clemson stayed in the Top 4 with a loss to Pitt, Ohio State was in the Top 4 after a loss on the road to Penn St, Michigan stayed in the Top 4 after a loss to Iowa, seems to me all the committee cared about is how much money the teams in the BIG would bring to the championship playoffs on to pay top ticket prices and sponsor money would be there which is a fiasco. It's always about money and screw the Conference Championships, why even have them if they mean nothing to the Playoff committee? If a team loses a game and they are in the TOP 4, drop them 4 spots automatically, no matter if it's a 1 playing a 2 and both are undefeated at the time they play head to head, etc., etc.
Fair is fair. This whole system sucks.
Put the best teams in the Top 4? Really? Even if they didn't even win their division or conference title? That's total BULLSHIT!!
Period! End of story!!
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In the season I watched, ( not as many games as I used to see) The OSU Buckeyes could (I know they were not) BUT could have been a 9 - 3 record team. Maybe even 8-4. Why? ,... OT at Wiscy, 2OT vs Michigan,...... 17 - 16 winner against a No-Tie Dantonio Mich St Team. Oh and a four point win at Northwestern.
And before you fuss with me about at least they did win even though it took OT,... please tell me how many OT games Alabama had this year?
That is the one point that everyone is missing about OSU is that struggle against Mich St.,... a 1 - 8 conference record team.
Another point is that everyone mentions the fact that Penn St lost two games and yes the loss to Michigan makes Penn St look pretty bad.Put their other loss was to Pitt, who also won over #2 seed Clemson.
I worried about Michigan all season, and they took the Buckeyes to Double OT with several poor plays by their QB, plus a few questionable calls that even I a Buckeye fan scratched my head over.
Should be an interesting playoff.
The crew making the decisions are always gonna be put in a tough spot with a four or eight team playoff.
Give us a TWELVE OR MORE team playoff. No home team advantage for ANYONE, ANY GAME, that is the true quality of a champion in my opinion, the ability to win on the road.
I still hope to see at least a TWELVE team playoff in the future.
That or we can just take the Only undefeated team/teams and name them National Champs or CO - champs and get on with basketball :0008
And before you fuss with me about at least they did win even though it took OT,... please tell me how many OT games Alabama had this year?
That is the one point that everyone is missing about OSU is that struggle against Mich St.,... a 1 - 8 conference record team.
Another point is that everyone mentions the fact that Penn St lost two games and yes the loss to Michigan makes Penn St look pretty bad.Put their other loss was to Pitt, who also won over #2 seed Clemson.
I worried about Michigan all season, and they took the Buckeyes to Double OT with several poor plays by their QB, plus a few questionable calls that even I a Buckeye fan scratched my head over.
Should be an interesting playoff.
The crew making the decisions are always gonna be put in a tough spot with a four or eight team playoff.
Give us a TWELVE OR MORE team playoff. No home team advantage for ANYONE, ANY GAME, that is the true quality of a champion in my opinion, the ability to win on the road.
I still hope to see at least a TWELVE team playoff in the future.
That or we can just take the Only undefeated team/teams and name them National Champs or CO - champs and get on with basketball :0008
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the 4th best team in college football is a 17 point dog..
now that's funny.........and sadder than McKinley funeral
15:00 Washington U at Alabama Main Event
now that's funny.........and sadder than McKinley funeral
15:00 Washington U at Alabama Main Event
- Washington U +17.0 -110
- Alabama -17.0 -110
- Washington U Closed
- Alabama Closed
- Over Closed
- Under Closed
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19:00 Ohio State at Clemson Main Event
- Ohio State -3.5 -115 :0003
- Clemson +3.5 -105
- Ohio State Closed
- Clemson Closed
- Over Closed
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opcorn2:iagree:How in the fuck am I taking a step back?? You're the one that said Ohio State would get "worked" by Clemson because they have no offensive weapons. Is that what you said or isn't it? I showed you why you are delusional and now you want to bet me again! So getting "worked" is only worth laying 3 points??
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no, if msu converts the 2 point conversion then osu would have 2 losses and then hth and conference championship would matter - and there is nothing wrong with psu's wins or losses - they just happen to have 2 losses while osu has only one - if psu would have beaten pitt they would be in, but they didn't so they are out -
i get the argument that it sucks that psu won the big10 and best osu hth but are left out, in a way it does suck - but again let's say psu loses the temple game and the big10 schedule plays out the same way, would people still be calling for a 3 loss psu team to be in over osu? of course not....the results of the non-conference schedule are taken into account, and psu's loss to pitt is what is keeping them out, period
