GOP Debate - New Hamp - CNN - Monday 8-10

[Chadman]

From the reports I've heard today, Romney was the clear winner last night, and Bachmann is the rising star. Of course, looking at the lineup of competitors, I'd guess that to be the case in many respects. Pawlenty lost his only shot of competing by not going after Romney - unless they made a pre-debate deal that he would be Romney's running mate. Doubtful - he adds nothing to any ticket, as I mentioned before.

Conservatives: Good luck with this groundswell of support for Bachmann. I'm hopeful she gets plenty of airtime and plenty of questions over the next few months. She'll beat herself, eventually. She should have already, but nobody really knows her.

Sounds like everyone (except Rick Perry and his supporters) are hoping Perry enters the race to save the party. I think he's waiting for 2016, which makes a lot of sense in many ways.

Enjoy your Bachmann, conservatives! :0074

 

[THE KOD]

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this about sums it up


:142smilie

 

[THE KOD]

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I love this guy

talk about no bullchit.

He was looking all of his 77 years last night.

In this vid he was 73 or so and looked viable.

 

[THE KOD]

I just watched Christy on Piers Morgan show


I actually like this guy .


you know how you get a feeling for Presidents


I cannot see Mitt Romney as President . That feeling is just not there.

 

[Cie]

Sorry cast imo...:..

As KOD pointed out, Paul looked old, and worse yet, he sounded old. I voted Paul last time, but not again because he has no shot. In a vacuum, my vote would be his though. Bachmann makes my skin crawl. She is soooooo phony that it hurts to watch. Speaking of phonies, Newt has more issues than he can overcome. He needs to get his ass back to Greece. Romney appears to be the most electable from where I'm standing. I just don't understand why pawlenty did not challenge Romney on healthcare. The mod was leading him, but paw wouldn't bite.

I would vote Romney now in republican primary, but none of these candidates make me think O will be unseated despite his poor showing to date. Bush should not have been rewarded a 2nd term, but i did not realize that until 2006, so he got my vote in 04 over what I felt was a weak dem ticket. i get the feeling O is going to get the nod from independents over what will be an equally weak republican ticket in '12.

 

[THE KOD]

I voted for Bush his first term. It took me a few years to discover that Cheney was running the show.


Romney now has a voter fraud charge pending.

Seems he listed his residency as his sons basement when he actually resided in California.

5 yrs and 10 K fine.

He own 3 other homes

His sons home looks like about 20 million worth .

Out of touch out of mind.

The morman thing , gay thing, abortion thing, flip flopping over and over....

he may be doomed

SARAH !!!!!!! THE BRITISH ARE COMING !

 

[Lumi]

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I love this guy

talk about no bullchit.

He was looking all of his 77 years last night.

In this vid he was 73 or so and looked viable.

He certainly did look old and tired.

Too bad Gary Johnson didn't get a chance

 

[Chadman]

The scary thing for republicans - in my view - is that Bachmann has a good pipeline to Iowa - she's well liked there, has many supporters. She grew up in Iowa, and that will help her a lot - since she made her fame and notoriety after leaving the state, in MN. We know her for what she is... and she probably wouldn't even carry this state in the election because of it. She could be very strong in Iowa, and then New Hampshire soon after - after positioning herself to the right of Romney. He's not that well liked there, despite being a NEasterner... they know his game, and he was a one termer in Mass as I recall.

If Bachmann could make a strong showing or somehow manage to win one of these states - good luck to you, Republicans... :0074

 

[Duff Miver]

I just watched Christy on Piers Morgan show


I actually like this guy .


you know how you get a feeling for Presidents

He's even fatter than Wm. Howard Taft.

A wise man once told me: "The fat around a man's head is proportional to the fat around his belly."

 

[THE KOD]

He's even fatter than Wm. Howard Taft.

A wise man once told me: "The fat around a man's head is proportional to the fat around his belly."

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The guy is intelligent , calm, sincere, sticks to his guns.

I got to give him some props.

He got a big laugh from Piers when he called Piers pal in a answer....

got to love a sense of humor.

from what i hear though, New Jersey aint particularly enamored with Christy. Not sure why yet.

 

[THE KOD]

Newt Gingrich: The 5 juiciest details from his ex-wife

At one point, Gingrich asked his wife Marianne to be tolerable of his affair with another woman. Photo: Getty

Twelve years after leaving Congress under a cloud, Newt Gingrich leads other possible GOP presidential candidates in many polls. The former House speaker has been in public life a long time, so most Americans know something about his politics; but, in a lengthy profile published in Esquire, writer John H. Richardson asks, "Just who is Newton Leroy Gingrich, really?" To uncover the answer, Richardson got Marianne Gingrich, the second of Gingrich's three wives, to sit down for a rare interview. Here are her 5 most shocking claims:

He began dating his math teacher at age 16:
It's widely known that Gingrich's first wife, Jackie, was once his high school geometry teacher. "To this day, the official story is that he started dating Jackie when he was 18 and she was 25," says Richardson. But, according to Marianne, "he was really just 16."

He cheated on his wife, then compared her to a car:
A few months after she had been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, Marianne Gingrich confronted Newt, and he admitted he was having an affair (with Callista Bisek, then 32, a former Hill staffer who later became his third wife). The couple tried to talk through it, but Gingrich got stuck comparing his wife and lover to cars, saying Marianne was a Jaguar and all he wanted was a Chevrolet. "I can't handle a Jaguar right now," Gingrich said several times. "All I want is a Chevrolet."


"Family values" don't apply to him:
When Marianne confronted Newt about his cheating, he had just returned from a speech where he spoke of the importance of family values. Yet he asked her to simply tolerate the affair. She refused, and asked him how he could give high-minded speeches while simultaneously running around on his wife. "It doesn't matter what I do," he answered. "People need to hear what I have to say."

He borrowed jokes from his ex-wife:
Explaining how his current wife, Callista, is simultaneously younger but more mature than he is, Gingrich tells Richardson, "Callista and I kid that I'm 4 and she's 5, and therefore she gets to be in charge." When Marianne hears the anecdote, she's stunned. "You know where that line came from? Me. That's my line. That's what I told him," she says. She pauses, then says, "I'm sorry, that's so freaky."

"He's a sociopath, but he's our sociopath":
In 1997, after being fined $300,000 by the House Ethics Committee, "Gingrich started to deteriorate," Richardson writes. "He started yelling at people, which he'd never done before, and he'd get weirdly 'overfocused' on getting things done ? manic, as if he was running out of time. He started taking meetings while eating, slurping his food, as if he weren't aware or didn't care how strange it looked. The staff responded with gallows humor: 'He's a sociopath, but he's our sociopath.'"
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Newt is leading in some polls :142smilie

 

[THE KOD]

GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich is flirting with a good old-fashioned scandal that has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter. Gingrich?s non-profit charity, Renewing American Leadership (which dedicates itself to fostering religious discussion in the public arena, among other goals) evidently paid $220,000 in cash over a two-year period to Gingrich Communications, one of Gingrich?s for-profit companies. In addition, the charity featured Gingrich on its website and its fundraising material, and also purchased cases of Gingrich?s books and DVDs produced by Gingrich Productions.

When asked about the murky line between his charity and for-profit business enterprises as he left a campaign event in New Hampshire, Gingrich told an ABC News reporter that ?I?m not concerned about that. The American people aren?t concerned about that. Try covering the speech.?

ABC News has, in fact, been looking into the charity?s dealings for some time now, finding evidence of the payments to Gingrich?s business in a May 2011 audit commissioned by the West Virginia secretary of state?s office. Prior to his resignation, Gingrich spokesperson Rick Tyler told the news network that Renewing American Leadership ?did nothing to promote anyone?s political career.?

However, Daniel Borochoff, president of the American Institute of Philanthropy, spoke with ABC News explained how Gingrich is able to work around federal requirements regarding disclosure:


If you?re a director and you?re doing business with the charity, it has to be disclosed, these are federal requirements. But the fact that [Gingrich] is not a director or an employee, he can skirt those disclosure rules. He doesn?t have to disclose if he?s selling things to the charity or receiving money from the charity.

That said, Gingrich could face trouble if it turns out that he is benefiting politically from access to the charity?s mailing list with the identities and contact information of people supportive of Gingrich?s appeal to promote religious discussion. Explains Borochoff:


If in fact Mr. Gingrich is receiving [Renewing American Leadership's] list for free then this is an abuse of the American charitable organization system. Charitable organizations are not allowed to intervene in political campaigns. Generating and then giving away a list of donors, who support and share the views of a particular political candidate is a misuse of tax-subsidized, charitable resources.

Gingrich declined to participate in an ABC News interview about this matter.
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how does this even happen

I wonder if his crew knew about this and jumped ship before it hit the airwaves.

:scared

 

[THE KOD]

"Mitt Romney did a good job at Monday night's Republican presidential debate. But not that good," the article states.

"Governor, you won a debate, not an election."

The paper takes Romney to task for flying a bit too high following his appearance at the debate-a performance that was widely praised for showcasing his presidential-like demeanor.

And, apparently, he's got the attitude to match.

At a post-debate visit in Derry the 2008 presidential candidate told the owner of a local business, "I will probably be back in four years. Only this time it will be a larger group and I will probably have Secret Service."

And in Manchester Romney made a not-so-discreet Freudian slip while asking voters to vote for him in "November"? before he corrected himself.

His bypass of the entire Republican primary calendar prompted the Union-Leader to remind Romney that "Granite Staters prefer hard-working and humble to high-falutin' and haughty
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I have a unique ability to sense arrogance.

Tell it like it is Mitt

 

[THE KOD]

And for one already-declared candidate, Coulter has changed her tune - slightly.

She praised one GOP contender and put down another in one swipe at February's Conservative Political Action Conference, saying, ?If you don?t run Chris Christie, Romney will be the nominee and we?ll lose.? But the conservative firebrand now admits to having warmer feelings for the former governor of Massachusetts, who recently announced his bid for the presidency.
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When Ann Coulter was on Piers Morgan he stunned her with this question.

If your children were gay would you accept it.

She was stunned. Said nothing for a minute while she thought about it and then refused to answer.

The reason why ?

She knew she would never have children. Not a chance in holy hell. So her critical thinking locked up her lesbian brain.

And I believe that Piers Morgan knew exactly what he was doing.
you dont often see Annie Coulter at a loss for words.

 

[THE KOD]

i did a google search on Rick Perry scandals who sounds like he is going to enter the GOP bandwagon.

wow I cant even begin.

Lets see if he decides to sign up.

:SIB :SIB

 

[THE KOD]

 

[THE KOD]

 

[THE KOD]

Michelle Bachman was in some conference today in Louisiana I think.

She was giving a speech.

I could only listen to her for about 10 minutes.

Her voice.

holy chitballs.

Its honestly like listening to a chalk board.

She will be ok just answering questions one on one , but anyone that hears her for a extended speech , and its over.

no one can take that. You lose all perspective to what she is saying.

and the problem is there is no changing her speaking voice. She is doomed.

 

[THE KOD]

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[Trench]

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"Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined." -Michele Bachmann

I love how Republican chuckleheads have used "executive experience" as the litmus test for Prez/Veep positions since 2008. As if governors and CEO's are now the only ones qualified for the positions. By Bachmann's simplistic definition, McCain was unqualified to run for Prez and she couldn't even draw that correlation.

Last night on Bill Maher's show, Chris Matthews predicted Bachmann will get the Republican nomination. :facepalm: