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How Smart is Chip Kelly now? Trades top RB for oft-injured LB?
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you now i like you jax but why would a rebuilding team want an overpaid player like mccoy?
I don't understand this sentiment. The Eagles have had a top five offense in Chip's first two years, neither of which with anything close to a top ten quarterback. Not sure how his scheme is not coordinating to the NFL?
Chip is guilty of having some Rex Ryan in him, only caring about one side of the ball. I am happy he is at least trying to address that, losing big games 35-31 is getting to be a bit much. Impossible to evaluate this trade just yet, because it is the first of many moves. Picking up a nice player in Alonso helps, but the 9 million in cap savings is big since they still have to replace 3/4ths of the secondary.
The game does evolve - people do not run the wing T or Power I anymore. This might not work long term, who knows, but I don't understand just dismissing his 20-12 record and labeling Chip as the next Spurrier, seems foolish.
I think Chip is taking a piece of the book from Bill B and Pete C and building "D" first, he knows his offense can do what it is capable of, hell Foles had a great year in 2013, then he got hurt LY, but he got hurt in 2013 as well and part of 2012. He's not a nimble QB, but he's tall and can traject the ball where it needs to go - Chip got rid of the malcontents, DeSean (wannabe gang banger) and probably won't resign Maclin (oft-injured), Matthews is the real deal, he's not a burner but he's a possession guy who gets open, the TE's are very good, so emphasis on speed and "D" is what Chip is looking for and I'm starting to believe he won't trade Foles and if they do resign Sanchez which is being talked about, and they'll probably keep Barkley or trade him for a draft pick (Oakland and San Fran interested in Barkely as well as NY Jets), Eagles looking at possibly bringing in Suh or another D lineman and really looking at Williams from USC right now - Mariota talk is a smoke screen and I truly believe that Famous Jameis will end up being what he's projected thus far as an immature spoiled brat with no clue of the repercussions his actions are and how serious they can be. He's a 500 lb pig on thin ice in the middle of a Minnesota pond right now.
We'll see as the draft is quickly coming up and free-agents signings begin next week.
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Going back to early in the Oregon days, Chip has said the QB and the RB are the two most interchangable parts in his offense (this goes against all conventional wisdom and certainly hard to buy into completely for the NFL game). The offense is based on complicated blocking schemes and speed, which is why the Eagles struggled when Kelce was out this year, as the center calls all of the protection packages at the line. WR blocking is also critical which is why Jackson was easy to let go of.
This team averaged 27 ppg with Mark Sanchez...there is something to the methodology here....They lost at least three games last year when the defense could not hold a 4th quarter lead, I am happy this is being addressed.
This team averaged 27 ppg with Mark Sanchez...there is something to the methodology here....They lost at least three games last year when the defense could not hold a 4th quarter lead, I am happy this is being addressed.
Excellent pts Blackman. Also when Ryans and Hendricks were out, their "D" really took a bath and Williams, Fletcher were abused so much it wasn't funny. They need some hitters like when Dawk played, or ball hawk, Randy Logan, if you don't have any intimidators on "D" at the DBs and front line, you will not get past the 1st round of the playoffs and on Kelce, that's solid also, but they had 3-4 guys out, including released OL Herremans who was slowing down even further, this draft has a few decent OLs and there are some on the FA market, but signing that position to more than 2 years is the kiss of death. Peters holds his own, but he's slowing down as well. Oregon used quick OL, most were not as big as most OL in the NFL. A lot of the Patriots OL are not the big 340-350 pound lugs, they are closer to 300 and 6'5 plus. If they can get a couple OL and a couple DL thru FA or the Draft, that would help. A speedy WR would help as well with size and Cooper and White could be around if Eagles stay at the spot they are at in the draft currently. Huff is ok, he can really run, but he needs to be in there on a repetitive nature.
We'll see. I've not given up rooting for the Eagles. I've seen worse times for them and I'll take 10 win seasons, but hard to take those wins when there is no post-season or 1 and done.
Favorite all time coach was Vermeil, first at UCLA back in the day and then when he became an Eagle. Leonard Tose did well with him.
Buddy Ryan, Andy Reid, had their moments. Khyat sucked, so did McCormack!! LOL
Good stuff guys!
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Today there are multiple reports that Philly will be hot for Frank Gore once the signing period starts....
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Just saw this too:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...o-murray-five-year-42-million-deal/?cid=yahoo
He's a good back, but he's getting paid too much in this deal (in my opinion). I really liked seeing what he did for us but he'll be replaceable with the O Line we have. I do think the O Line got him quite a few of those yards last year.
I think we'll have another RB emerge next year and we won't have to worry about the running game too much. However, I will admit this is a blow to a division rival....
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...o-murray-five-year-42-million-deal/?cid=yahoo
He's a good back, but he's getting paid too much in this deal (in my opinion). I really liked seeing what he did for us but he'll be replaceable with the O Line we have. I do think the O Line got him quite a few of those yards last year.
I think we'll have another RB emerge next year and we won't have to worry about the running game too much. However, I will admit this is a blow to a division rival....
kneifl
From what I gather, Matthews did not officially sign with the Eagles? Dallas is said to be in the market for DeAngelo Williams of the Carolina Panthers, who the Panthers let slip they were going to release him. If Matthews is still available, he'd do pretty well in Dallas with that OL.
so they sign Mathews and are now going to sign murray,too?.....
what am I missing here?....they setting chits up to make a blockbuster move for mariotta on draft day?......
I don`t understand why they sign both these guys....particularly when you have sproles and polk already...seems like an over-concentration of resources to one position...
what am I missing here?....they setting chits up to make a blockbuster move for mariotta on draft day?......
I don`t understand why they sign both these guys....particularly when you have sproles and polk already...seems like an over-concentration of resources to one position...
Chip said with the amount of carries the RBs usually get in his offensive scheme, two RBs need to carry the load and Sproles will be used more on special plays, returns, etc, if they keep him.
Mariota will likely end up in Tennessee or with the Jets, depending on who trades up or down in the draft, still a few players on last year of their contracts that could be dealt on draft day or just before draft day.
I`ll say this for Kelly...he`s not apathetic....if his pro opportunity doesn`t pan out,he`s gonna go down swinging....
I can respect that...I`m pretty sure the sportstalk shows in philly are burning up.....:lol:
I like what Chip has done but then again I'm not an Eagles fan. I do know that he had a problem with Mckoy because he wouldn't run in the middle as hard and liked to bounce things outside. The two backs he has now will both hit holes hard and keep going. So IMO he got two backs that do what he wants better than the one he had and they're both cheaper and he also picked up a stud LB for his troubles. Add to it that there is one thing Bradford has and it's accuracy. He may not throw it deep well but I don't think that's what Chip is looking for.
The one thing I don't like is his offensive line. I think he believes he can build a good offense with average guys but this isn't college and you're going to be facing great d linemen every game so your O line better be good or you're not running the ball with that much success.(see Cowboys in previous years and then this year) I would think since he likes to run the ball so much he would have started with the O line and built out from there.
The one thing I don't like is his offensive line. I think he believes he can build a good offense with average guys but this isn't college and you're going to be facing great d linemen every game so your O line better be good or you're not running the ball with that much success.(see Cowboys in previous years and then this year) I would think since he likes to run the ball so much he would have started with the O line and built out from there.
layin...I take it you`re a cowboy fan...I`m going to shock you with this,but I believe that the `boys` signing of Darren McFadden is going to turn out to be a downright shockingly solid move...
this guy was,and with the right surrounding cast,can again be a very good back....not a bellcow...but a solid contributor...
mired in Oakland behind that horseshit front office,the guy was doomed to fail...but moving to the cowboys(a contendaer with an excellent supporting cast and one of the best offensive lines in football),I think we might see a renewed McFadden....I think he can really help you guys...
he was always really talented...more than likely,dallas will pick up either a young stud in the draft or an experienced hand to shoulder the main load.....but I believe that,if given an opportunity,mcfadden may turn back the clock a bit......
I think jerry jones is getting sharper as he ages....keep an eye on McFadden....if he gets an opportunity,i expect him to surprise some folks...
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GW, actually I hate the Cowboys. I'm a Steelers fan. My whole family always loved the boys so I chose to like the Steelers because my family hated them.
Saying that, I think the signing of McFadden will end up being brilliant. He has a gear that Murray doesn't have. The one knock people will say is that McFadden is always hurt. For that I argument I give you......... Murray for his whole football career outside of last year. If anything the last few years have been good for McFadden. His legs have barely been worked and if I'm not wrong he's only 27.
The Cowboys are looking good IMO. They really only need to draft for the defensive side and maybe a couple of backups on the offensive line but nothing they probably can't get with some undrafted guys. I wish I could say these things about the Steelers. They're going to waste the prime years of big Bens career.
Saying that, I think the signing of McFadden will end up being brilliant. He has a gear that Murray doesn't have. The one knock people will say is that McFadden is always hurt. For that I argument I give you......... Murray for his whole football career outside of last year. If anything the last few years have been good for McFadden. His legs have barely been worked and if I'm not wrong he's only 27.
The Cowboys are looking good IMO. They really only need to draft for the defensive side and maybe a couple of backups on the offensive line but nothing they probably can't get with some undrafted guys. I wish I could say these things about the Steelers. They're going to waste the prime years of big Bens career.
