I'm not buying it.

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Stop the bullshit rusty and answer the simple question - How much do you pay in, and how much do you take out?

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Tramp in Mass. the tax rate (state included )is near 50%.Not speaking for other states.I found a good explanation on this site.

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Gro...3ba79f/CropImage.aspx?imageType=group&groupId


So it safe to say were paying 35% if you think 50% is a stretch.To claim 50 is crazy really isn't because to tally the total is hard to do.

Not to mention methods being done to pay for irresponsible spending by local and gov't. authorities.

You have to be kidding me.
 

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And not a Faux News driven Brain washing

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Another load of crap dug up by rusty, and which misrepresents the truth by claiming the highest tax rates anywhere, while ignoring states which have no income tax and/or no sales tax, and assuming that everyone pays sales tax on everything plus a dozen other misrepresentations and outright lies.

Why do you keep posting this kind of shit, rusty? Are you THAT fucking dumb?...no...wait...don't answer that.

How much tax do you pay rusty, and how much do you get for your money?

ANSWER THE QUESTION. Don't post any other bullshit, just answer one simple question.

YOU CLAIM HALF YOUR INCOME GOES TO TAXES. SHOW US THE NUMBERS!!!
 
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YOU CLAIM HALF YOUR INCOME GOES TO TAXES. SHOW US THE NUMBERS!!!
Of course, he can't show us any real numbers Duff.

Rusty: "If not fo da Gubmint, I be a gabillionare, but da Man is tryin ta keep me down!"

Dogs: "If not fo da Base suckin da Gubmint tit, I be's a gabillionare too Rusty!"

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48% .. 42%.. whatever!!! Gov't should be able to survive on 5% fed and 2% state Period!! We are fuxored :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: if we don't stop this bullshit! Inflation is killin' us! dollar is worth dick!! wake up and smell the respirator >> if we don't... we are all toast* nuff said
 

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48% .. 42%.. whatever!!! Gov't should be able to survive on 5% fed and 2% state Period!!

I'd like to see how you figure, Craiger. Just give me a few numbers - how much would you spend on the Military, for example?


Inflation is killin' us

Really? What do you think the current rate of inflation is? Try less than 2%.


Saaaaayy......are you rusty's twin brother?:shrug:
 

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Lol Duff. no but close.. am his bro in law! haven't posted here in a awhile anywhere on the forum.. I don't gamble anymore because I cannot save a bankroll to play with.. Get real . military? I most likely agree with you on what we are spending to try and "save the world" from terrorists. it's all bulll... come and get us! or at least try. we still can't get out of our own way trying to sell freedom to a barking crowd. 3rd world ideology we do not comprehend that they don't understand what we are trying to sell. big business, big govt'!~ hawaii five 0' whatever.. our liberties I fear will be challenged in the near future to that what we have not comprehended. .we will pay the price for out of control gov't.. Obama got laughed at in his G20 spot.. We've lost our way. too fat too busy to give a shit. most of not paying attention. leave me alone with my 1020dp picture and my radial tires and I will bend over and pay the way.. what happens is unfortunately our own choice to let it be. and we will get what we deserve. most likely anarchy..
 

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Craiger I agree with most ,but not all(the anarchy)you won't get through to their kind which thinks socialism and spreading the wealth leads to a better America,but in reality leads to more spending and higher taxes in some form.

Your correct on the inflation.Our kids will be paying that for a long time.Although there is no way to break down exactly how much we earn and how much we pay in taxes its safe to say Duff we are paying close to 40% and yes possibly 50%.

And if 50% seems high the road were heading down will bring us there,how can you argue this.How much do you think were paying DuFF,I would love to hear.
 

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Lol Duff. no but close.. am his bro in law! haven't posted here in a awhile anywhere on the forum.. I don't gamble anymore because I cannot save a bankroll to play with.. Get real . military? I most likely agree with you on what we are spending to try and "save the world" from terrorists. it's all bulll... come and get us! or at least try. we still can't get out of our own way trying to sell freedom to a barking crowd. 3rd world ideology we do not comprehend that they don't understand what we are trying to sell. big business, big govt'!~ hawaii five 0' whatever.. our liberties I fear will be challenged in the near future to that what we have not comprehended. .we will pay the price for out of control gov't.. Obama got laughed at in his G20 spot.. We've lost our way. too fat too busy to give a shit. most of not paying attention. leave me alone with my 1020dp picture and my radial tires and I will bend over and pay the way.. what happens is unfortunately our own choice to let it be. and we will get what we deserve. most likely anarchy..

Welcome back Craiger.Post more often you could def. add some whacked out points.
 

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I just don't know what to say anymore. I actually have to re-read some of these posts to actually believe that someone actually said what I read.
 

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Tax plan to hit Mass. wallets

Tax plan to hit Mass. wallets

Tax plan to hit Mass. wallets
By Natalie Sherman and Christine McConville
Monday, December 13, 2010 - Updated 3 hours ago



The political battle still raging in Washington over tax cuts could have a dramatic effect on Bay State billfolds no matter how it is resolved, local experts said.

Beacon Hill Institute boss David Tuerck noted that the Bay State economy relies heavily on high-tech investment, which theoretically will be fueled by maintaining the tax cuts.

?It?s important for taxes to be kept low and to be kept low with predictability going into the future,? Tuerck said.

But it isn?t as much whether your taxes are going up or not in a few weeks? time, according to Harvard University economist Gregory Mankiw.

?What will they do going forward? I don?t think anyone wanted to see a huge tax increase on Jan. 1. I don?t think anyone thought that was a solution,? said Mankiw, who supports the White House-GOP extension of the Bush-era tax cuts at all income levels ? low, middle and high. Now, the big question is, he said, ?Are they going to take the deficit seriously??

He and others say a deficit of more than $1.3 trillion is a ticking time bomb. Opponents say nearly $900 billion in tax relief and unemployment benefits just makes that worse.

Michael Widmer, president of the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, said the part of the controversial deal that extends unemployment benefits will help the Bay State economy in the short term.

?The unemployment provisions are certainly important for Massachusetts, and nationally the extension will have the most positive short-term economic impact, unlike some of the tax cuts which are, at least in the short term, not as much of an economic incentive,? Widmer said.

The issue remains unresolved though many observers expect to see it pass largely intact in Congress this week. It was a remarkable past week as Capitol Hill Democrats turned on President Obama, who raised eyebrows as he turned to former President Bill Clinton to hawk the $855 billion plan.

?To have Obama and Clinton stand up there and say the right thing for the economy over the next two years is the Bush tax cuts ? that?s a pretty big victory for conservatives,? said Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol. But of Obama, he said, ?at the end of the day he?s in a much better position. He?s showed his willingness to cut a deal.?

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said, ?The president was dealt a very tough hand. All 42 Senate Republicans voted in lockstep to hold the middle-class tax cuts and unemployment insurance hostage, and our Democratic caucus wasn?t unified.? Still, he said of the jobless benefits extension: ?It?s a very steep price to pay for something the Senate should?ve done months ago as a matter of decency and common sense, but how do you cut off 52,000 people in Massachusetts who need those unemployment benefits??
 

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.Although there is no way to break down exactly how much we earn and how much we pay in taxes its safe to say Duff we are paying close to 40% and yes possibly 50%.

And if 50% seems high the road were heading down will bring us there,how can you argue this.How much do you think were paying DuFF,I would love to hear.

WTF? You don't file fed, state and local tax returns? You don't pay property taxes? You don't pay sales taxes? You don't buy gasoline? You don't know when you pay other taxes?

How, rusty, can you whine about something you don't even know about? You don't know where you're money goes?

No wonder you're broke.

Here, Ill help you get started -

You whine about not making much, so I assumed you make $40K per year and have two dependents and no other deductions.

Your gross pay = $40K = $763.29/week

Fed inc tax + FICA + Medicare = $92.62

Federal taxes = 12% of your gross income. That's TWELVE PERCENT.

http://www.paycheckcity.com/NetPayCalc/netpayCalcResult.asp

Your Mass income tax will be about $25. That's another 3%. THREE PERCENT.

So how do you get to 50%?

Never mind, I know how you get it. You pull it out of your ass.
 
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WTF? You don't file fed, state and local tax returns? You don't pay property taxes? You don't pay sales taxes? You don't buy gasoline? You don't know when you pay other taxes?

How, rusty, can you whine about something you don't even know about? You don't know where you're money goes?

No wonder you're broke.

Here, Ill help you get started -

You whine about not making much, so I assumed you make $40K per year and have two dependents and no other deductions.

Your gross pay = $40K = $763.29/week

Fed inc tax + FICA + Medicare = $92.62

Federal taxes = 12% of your gross income. That's TWELVE PERCENT.

http://www.paycheckcity.com/NetPayCalc/netpayCalcResult.asp

So how do you get to 50%?

Never mind, I know how you get it. You pull it out of your ass.

You have seemed to have left out all the other taxes that me and you pay (at least me,I got a feeling your on the free ride plan)for example would be sales tax!Oh!we for got that one.Property tax Oh! we forgot that one.!! Federal corp. income tax,Oh! we forgot that one.Misc. gov't fees,Oh we forgot that one

If you wanna calculate every dollar I'm being squeezed by the above mentioned be my guest.Esp the hidden fees and sales tax part.Get real Duff.

Don't sugercoat it with wages earned and taxes taken out of pay:142smilie it goes deeper then that,you do know that?right?:scared

12%:142smilie That's being genereous.
 

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You have seemed to have left out all the other taxes that me and you pay (at least me,I got a feeling your on the free ride plan)for example would be sales tax!Oh!we for got that one.Property tax Oh! we forgot that one.!! Federal corp. income tax,Oh! we forgot that one.Misc. gov't fees,Oh we forgot that one

If you wanna calculate every dollar I'm being squeezed by the above mentioned be my guest.Esp the hidden fees and sales tax part.Get real Duff.

Don't sugercoat it with wages earned and taxes taken out of pay:142smilie it goes deeper then that,you do know that?right?:scared

12%:142smilie That's being genereous.

I didn't forget anything, asshole. It's your turn to provide some facts.

How much do YOU pay in other taxes?

I'd like to also know how much corporate tax YOU pay.

Until and unless you can come up with some facts, how about you shut up and go away.:moon:
 

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48% .. 42%.. whatever!!! Gov't should be able to survive on 5% fed and 2% state Period!!

I'd like to see how you figure, Craiger. Just give me a few numbers - how much would you spend on the Military, for example?


Inflation is killin' us

Really? What do you think the current rate of inflation is? Try less than 2%.


Saaaaayy......are you rusty's twin brother?:shrug:

High inflation in China will haunt US for the next decade

* December 4th, 2010 2:34 pm ET



China is battling inflationary pressures to keep its economy from overheating while the US would welcome more inflationary pressures to give some welcome relief to the current monetary policy.

The US may actually get more inflationary pressure than it can handle and the Chinese wave will reach the shores of America sooner than expected.

The current economic imbalance between high inflation in the East versus deflation in the West is not sustainable and the Chinese inflation may haunt the US for the next decade to come due to several factors and conditions that are slowly being mapped out and put in place.

Those conditions are not yet visible to the average consumer as they gather momentum and steam in upper economic layers well before they become visible in stores near to or close by Main Street.

The artificial inflation of asset prices, primarily agricultural commodities, caused by several rounds of quantitative easing in the West, has already led to high food prices in China and India.

Some agricultural commodities prices have risen as much as 74% with an overall average of 25% to 40%. Corn, wheat, sugar, cocoa and soybeans continue to peak as supply dwindles and demand continues to increase.

The US is not immune to such inflationary pressure even though the core CPI hovers around 1%.

The Chinese and Indian sharp rise in food prices will soon affect the US for the next decade to come as US food manufacturers start passing on the extra cost of basic food ingredients to their own consumers.

The US consumer will face two challenges in the next 10 years. One will be reduced spendable income due to high unemployment and a dilution of the dollar as a result of QE and two, a sharp rise in food prices.

As much deflation as the US may feel at the moment is a sign of a quiet period before the storm or one could identify the phase the US is currently in as the eye of the storm. The first side of the storm swept the US in 2008 and 2009 so this year should be labeled as ?The Eye of the Storm? knowing that the other side will sweep the US next year.

The difference is that the first side brought deep deflationary pressures; call it a low pressure front from a meteorological perspective, while the other side will bring a high pressure front that will last for several years.

Hyperinflation is almost an absolute certainty for the US economy with high import prices, low exports, low spendable income, high unemployment and no defense mechanism to shelter the average American consumer from the havoc it will wreak.

The US monetary policy caused the start of hyperinflation in food prices in the East and probably did so inadvertently, even though that can be debated, but one always reaps what one sows.

Next year the US consumer will battle high food prices and it remains to be seen whether such can be sustained in the current US economical environment.
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Even though are inflation is low,do not be fooled and its only gonna get worse.If you can't see this then as Tramp would say take the blinders off.

Just walk into a grocery store and go shopping for a family of 4 ,check some of the outrageous prices out there.I work in one I know. Unless your on foodstamps this one is plain to see.And this has nothing to do with paying taxes.

Wake up Duff,the worst is yet to come.
 

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I didn't forget anything, asshole. It's your turn to provide some facts.

How much do YOU pay in other taxes?

I'd like to also know how much corporate tax YOU pay.

Until and unless you can come up with some facts, how about you shut up and go away.:moon:


Like I said a good estimate (conservative)is between 35%-$40% ,50% is not out of the question.I don't need facts to back up a point.If you ask me its plain to see where my moneys going and its not in my wallet.

Oh one more thing I forgot retirement(social security included)It's safe to say they will have their hand in the cookie jar there as well.
There already robbing me on SS and I was kind and left that out of the %.
 
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