In-season USC thread

[Nick Douglas]

Well, in some ways it's an honor to be the most hated college football program in the country, because that usually also means you're the best (See also: Yankees, Duke, Manchester United, etc.).

This was a tough loss, but given our schedule it was probably too much to ask to make it to the National Championship game. I'm still proud as heck to be a USC alumni and football fan, because when you look at our five year run, it really is unmatched in the modern era of college football.

 

[RollTide72]

Well, in some ways it's an honor to be the most hated college football program in the country, because that usually also means you're the best (See also: Yankees, Duke, Manchester United, etc.).

This was a tough loss, but given our schedule it was probably too much to ask to make it to the National Championship game. I'm still proud as heck to be a USC alumni and football fan, because when you look at our five year run, it really is unmatched in the modern era of college football.

For most people on here, I don't think it's a hatred of USC as much as it is for a certain supporter of USC that posts on here from time to time. I have the utmost respect for Pete Carroll and what he has accomplished. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year and he had them one win away from the NC game. That's one helluva coaching job. You have every right to be a proud alum and fan of the Trojans. The only thing I have to ask is... what are your parameters for the modern era of college football. That's a pretty big statement to make.

 

[Nick Douglas]

I'd say since integration became more widely accepted. What is that, about the last 25 years?

Maybe my statement was too strong, because there are some teams that have put together 5 year runs that could challenge USC's (Nebraska from '93 to '97 comes to mind). I'd still say we're in the hunt.

As far as a backlash against Scott4USC, I certainly do sympathize. I support all USC alums (I think Scott's graduated by now, not sure), but I'll admit that his posts do go over the top at times.

 

[kneifl]

Nebraska's 5 year run doesn't even compare to the USC team that won one NC. As a NU alum, I'm insulted to even be put in that same category. NU dominated College Football for a number of years and Osborne was a coach with class. Caroll doesn't hold a candle to the success that Osborne had with NU.

kneifl

 

[smurphy]

Nebraska fans are the most myopic in the country. I'm really happy to see their decline from the elite over the last few years.

 

[kneifl]

Nebraska fans are the most myopic in the country. I'm really happy to see their decline from the elite over the last few years.

:nono: :nono: :stfu: :stfu:

Superbowl party = :chairshot :chairshot

kneifl

 

[Nick Douglas]

The biggest problem I have with Nebraska's teams of that era is that they played soft schedules. Love 'em or hate 'em, USC goes out of their way to schedule big non-conference games every year.

 

[RollTide72]

I'd say since integration became more widely accepted. What is that, about the last 25 years?

Maybe my statement was too strong, because there are some teams that have put together 5 year runs that could challenge USC's (Nebraska from '93 to '97 comes to mind). I'd still say we're in the hunt.

As far as a backlash against Scott4USC, I certainly do sympathize. I support all USC alums (I think Scott's graduated by now, not sure), but I'll admit that his posts do go over the top at times.

You are telling me that integration has only been widely accepted since 1980? I would say the late '60s, early '70s. Alabama's dominance during that 1970s has hardly been matched. National Champions in 1973, 1978 & 1979. SEC Champions in 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1978 & 1979 (54-1 in the SEC during those championship years). 103 wins from 1970-1979 against 16 losses (5 came in 1970) and one tie. Bowl game appearances every year in the '70s.

 

[Bombs]

You are telling me that integration has only been widely accepted since 1980? I would say the late '60s, early '70s. Alabama's dominance during that 1970s has hardly been matched. National Champions in 1973, 1978 & 1979. SEC Champions in 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1978 & 1979 (54-1 in the SEC during those championship years). 103 wins from 1970-1979 against 16 losses (5 came in 1970) and one tie. Bowl game appearances every year in the '70s.

integration widely accepted in college football in 1980? - they teach some strange history out there on the left coast.

 

[Nick Douglas]

Alabama didn't integrate until USC stomped them in Tuscaloosa in 1978.

Check out old game film. They showed clips of 1971 Nebraska/OU during the Big XII championship game. At least 3/4 players were white. Can you imagine that in a Nebraska/OU game today?

It may be true that some schools were integrated in the 60's or early 70's, but schools in the southeast and southwest kept large white majorities long after that for political reasons. For that reason, you really cannot compare the quality of football from that era with today's game. That's why I discount all of Alabama's national championships under Bryant.

 

[RollTide72]

Alabama didn't integrate until USC stomped them in Tuscaloosa in 1978.

My friend, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. First off, the USC/Alabama game you are talking about took place in 1970, not 1978. USC won 42-21 in Birmingham (not Tuscaloosa) when Sam Cunningham ran all over the Alabama defense. In fact, the Bear wanted to recruit black players when he was the head coach at Kentucky in the early 50s. In 1959, the SEC threatened to expell Alabama from the conference if they played an integrated Penn State in the Liberty Bowl. 'Bama went and obviously was not expelled. Wilbur Jackson was the first black football player at Alabama and was signed in 1969. By the early 1970s Alabama was an integrated team. If you are going to just throw out crap, make sure your facts are straight. You people on the left coast amaze me.

 

[Nick Douglas]

You are right, it was 1970 that USC stomped Alabama. I am also sure you're right about Bryant wanting integration. My previous post wasn't meant to cast Bryant as anti-integration.

The point of the post (which is a correct point), is that schools in the southeast and southwest were not fully integrated in the 1970's. They still had white majorities and even you would admit that those white majorities did not represent the best teams they could've fielded if there was no political pressure to field white-majority teams.

 

[RollTide72]

And it was 1971 that Alabama returned the stomping favor to USC. We can agree to disagree about the integration. Once the first black athlete was signed, the floodgates opened and integration was complete.

 

[AR182]

Nebraska's 5 year run doesn't even compare to the USC team that won one NC. As a NU alum, I'm insulted to even be put in that same category. NU dominated College Football for a number of years and Osborne was a coach with class. Caroll doesn't hold a candle to the success that Osborne had with NU.

kneifl

check oklahoma's unbeaten record under bud wilkerson where they won something like 50 straight games....when a team approaches this record then we'll talk about dynasties.

 

[Nick Douglas]

C'mon, AR. We're talking the modern era here.

 

[Nick Douglas]

RT72,

I'm curous about something. Obviously you're a big Alabama fan, but it says you live in Indiana. Did you grow up in Alabama or did you just follow the football team?

The reason I ask is that I was out in Raleigh and I met a guy from Charlotte who has lived there his whole life, but who is a big Alabama fan (he hates Fullmer and the Vols, too ). Until then I never really realized that Alabama has out-of-state appeal, but he was telling me that they have fans all over the place.

 

[AR182]

C'mon, AR. We're talking the modern era here.

nick..

it doesn't matter when they played....it's still an impressive record.

 

[blgstocks]

One of the LongHorn fans over in NCAA Foots put Mack Brown accomplishments at Texas up against PC at SC and they were almost identical. The Trojans have been one of the best college football teams of the 2000's.
Thats about all you can say about them.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Last all white championship team was Texas in 1969.

There have been so many examples of "dynasties" superior to what USC has done it is almost laughable as a discussion point.

And I think if folks check around there is not generally hatred of USC in the typical sports fan - it is confined to this message board and for a very good reason. USC was actually my favorite team as a kid - Anthony Davis was almost a god - now I hope they even lose to hated Notre Dame.

 

[Tman]

Please do not compare USC to the New York Yankees "dynasty" franchises. Thank you :nono: :mj07: