Ivey wins $12 Million by noticing flawed cards

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with a 5% advantage flipping a coin, I couldnt flip it enough ... 1000 flips = 50 positive wins :shrug:

and thats about how many Ivey won over 3 days :shrug:


Difference is Phil didn't have a 55 percent advantage, like a coin flip by seeing one card every 6th hand. Not even close.

Of course yyz isn't huge on math, so we won't go there:facepalm:
 

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with a 5% advantage flipping a coin, I couldnt flip it enough ... 1000 flips = 50 positive wins :shrug:

and thats about how many Ivey won over 3 days :shrug:


That's because he had a 5% advantage Andy!

Like Kick said about 100 posts back: It's math.

I know 5% isn't much, but Millions of people retire on that shit-ass return every day! (Millions more wish they could!)
 

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That's because he had a 5% advantage Andy!


Where in the love of fuck did ya get his stat?


Like hell he did, you know something I don't?

Where do you come up with that number?


Unreal:facepalm:
 

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If you want a 5 percent edge on that coin flip every sixth flip then I guess you have a huge advantage huh:facepalm:

The fact that you just completely owned yourself in this thread is hilarious.

1. Phil Ivey deserves to be paid

2. Phil Ivey used an angle left open by the casino, not cheating IMO

3. Of course it provided him an edge. How do you think he won 12M betting 200k!
 

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Difference is Phil didn't have a 55 percent advantage, like a coin flip by seeing one card every 6th hand. Not even close.

Of course yyz isn't huge on math, so we won't go there:facepalm:

well even a 2-3% advantage spread over 3 days is a HUGE advantage ... at $220k per hand, he only has to finish +55 hands to be up $12 million :scared
 

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The fact that you just completely owned yourself in this thread is hilarious.

1. Phil Ivey deserves to be paid

2. Phil Ivey used an angle left open by the casino, not cheating IMO

3. Of course it provided him an edge. How do you think he won 12M betting 200k!



You do realize I was mocking YYZ Saint....if Phil had a 5 percent advantage every 6th hand of course that would be huge.

He didn't.

Not even fucking close.

Come on Saint........wake up dude.


YYZ try to use a "coin flip example of 5 percent" and "if you knew you had an ace in blackjack" as stats.

Not even close to an accurate analogy:facepalm:
 

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The jury came in on that about three hours ago, Simple Simon.


You suck at math and don't know baccarat at all....yet think you do.

Now you are just throwing numbers out that are complete shit.

Saint is buying it though:facepalm:
 

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After so much diarrhea of the mouth I'm not even sure what is being argued.

No one can quantify the advantage he had. But he had one. Any advantage, no matter how small, pays off. All one needs is a high number of hands and it pays off.
 

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No one can quantify the advantage he had. But he had one. Any advantage, no matter how small, pays off. All one needs is a high number of hands and it pays off.

Most likely he had a small one....but nowhere close to the stats YYZ is throwing out and nowhere close to a huge advantage.
 

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uh oh kickserv is about to go berserk. im OUTTA HERE :scared :scared :scared :scared
 

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After so much diarrhea of the mouth I'm not even sure what is being argued.

No one can quantify the advantage he had. But he had one. Any advantage, no matter how small, pays off. All one needs is a high number of hands and it pays off.

Was the advantage on him or the casino that is the original question? Did he create it on his own or simply take advantage of it.

Also was this taking advantage of, the sort of accepting payment when you know you lost a hand of BJ, cause it was the dealers error or was it like trying to add chips to a winning Roulette pile.


Fuck the Bruins just won, I bet Kick isnt going to give any of his dogs any beggin strips tonight.
 

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You suck at math and don't know baccarat at all....yet think you do.

Now you are just throwing numbers out that are complete shit.

Saint is buying it though:facepalm:


I'm using YOUR numbers.


I absolutely cannot run those numbers, but I will stake my LIFE he had the edge on the casino, and it was HUGE enough for him to win $12M

And for the last time; Fuck you, you stubborn prick! How many people have to tell you that you are full of shit before you wake up?

Go tell the casinos they are all a bunch of liars, because there is no way they can stay in business with a LOUSY 1.06 edge on a game. Ask them where the hell they came up with those numbers?

Then ask those same casino bosses if a guy was to bet $50,000 a hand on the "regular" hands, and pump up the action to $200,000 when he knew the first card was a 6/7/8/9, and he had a far greater chance to win the hand, if they thought their 1.06% edge might have just been butt fucked?

Don't tell me what the fuck I know and don't know, when you look like a complete fucking idiot throughout this entire thread.
 

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Who cares what his advantage is. The fact of the matter is that a casino provides a place to wager and gamble at games that are obviously heavily weighted in their favor and he made the bet, they took the bet. They pay, their loss and tough shit.

The other day I left Whataburger and noticed that my large fry is the same serving size as a medium fry only in a bigger box. So the next time I went I got a medium fry and the container was full as well as several fries in the bottom of the bag and this has been the case ever since. I don't give the wayward fries back, I didn't get them by cheating. Whataburger offered me fries, I got fries, they put too many in the bag for the serving size ordered. They have been ripping people off on their large fries for years. Shit happens and I got those fries fair and square, they should pay more attention.

Hope this helps, ?
FDC ?
 

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Who cares what his advantage is. The fact of the matter is that a casino provides a place to wager and gamble at games that are obviously heavily weighted in their favor and he made the bet, they took the bet. They pay, their loss and tough shit.

The other day I left Whataburger and noticed that my large fry is the same serving size as a medium fry only in a bigger box. So the next time I went I got a medium fry and the container was full as well as several fries in the bottom of the bag and this has been the case ever since. I don't give the wayward fries back, I didn't get them by cheating. Whataburger offered me fries, I got fries, they put too many in the bag for the serving size ordered. They have been ripping people off on their large fries for years. Shit happens and I got those fries fair and square, they should pay more attention.

Hope this helps, ?
FDC ?

not your best analogy :mj07:
 

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YYZ...you are an idiot...sorry.


Keep believing your bullshit math.


Keep thinking he had a huge advantage...he did not. You are a fucking idiot.

Amazing how dense you are.
 
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