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Its not chest pumping and all to do with backing up what i said earlier. I know this is to difficult for you to understand but I try.

Yeah, your right. I can't grasp these complicated concepts.:shrug:
 

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played : 0-5 stl, 2-3chi, 0-5 miami, 3-2 nyg.... combined records of 5-15 ......

Its not like they just skated by these teams....the destroyed them(maybe not the NYG, but still 10_...all double digits easy wins.

NE opposition are only a combined 7-16. So I guess we can ask the same question of them? :shrug:

Teams cant help who is on their schedule...they just have to handle what is thrown at them.
 

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Your theorys are ridicules.

what you ought to do bro is get the phone records of that crooked usc coach (former pro) and that former pro Quarterback (Haurbaugh stanford coach)) and see if these two crooks planned that Stanford win. Cmon man SC is like a pro team and Stanford is horrible. It wouldn't be the first time two coaches got caught talking on the phone giving each others their plays. Bear Bryant and Vince Dooley got caught years ago.
 

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what you ought to do bro is get the phone records of that crooked usc coach (former pro) and that former pro Quarterback (Haurbaugh stanford coach)) and see if these two crooks planned that Stanford win. Cmon man SC is like a pro team and Stanford is horrible. It wouldn't be the first time two coaches got caught talking on the phone giving each others their plays. Bear Bryant and Vince Dooley got caught years ago.
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Hopeless. Phone records ....classic.:142smilie
 

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To quote Scott, that's just stupid. There were more LOGICAL reasons to bet that game under than over, that's for should.

please what a stupid statement. Third string pitchers and two of the best hitting teams in the league who just scored 15 runs the game before.:shrug: Here is a consensus site
9:30 PM Philadelphia 11.0 Colorado 989 61.81% 611 38.19%
 

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please what a stupid statement. Third string pitchers and two of the best hitting teams in the league who just scored 15 runs the game before.:shrug: Here is a consensus site
9:30 PM Philadelphia 11.0 Colorado 989 61.81% 611 38.19%

:mj07: I thought you were talking about Sea-Pit football game. You confuse me with your mixing of so many fixes in one argument.:shrug:
 

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Hopeless. Phone records ....classic.:142smilie

yep 40 point dogs always seem to beat the favorite. Im willing to bet that this never happen unless there were coaches with big names involve. Funny when i looked at that line i thought it was the biggest joke on the board. I thought it should have been around 70. Then all the sudden you see it dropping like someone is betting Stanford when nobody was.
 

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Sponge, do you think underdogs only win if it's rigged?

Also - why wouldn't they rig the USC game simply to cover the spread. Why did they make USC lose outright when very few people would have been able to put very little money on that moneyline?

Also, that was a tremendously well choreographed fix by a bunch of amateur players. Those final plays I could have sworn USC defenders were trying to stop Stanford from scoring but just couldn't.
 

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yep 40 point dogs always seem to beat the favorite. Im willing to bet that this never happen unless there were coaches with big names involve. Funny when i looked at that line i thought it was the biggest joke on the board. I thought it should have been around 70. Then all the sudden you see it dropping like someone is betting Stanford when nobody was.

The line didnt drop Spongy if I remember right it got bet up to 41.
 

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Plenty of us get caught up in the consensus and those various sites to find this info, but in the end aren't we too part of that. I haven't quit my day job, and therefore I make up the public. I do however make more money off the bets I take in for others than I do on my own betting.

Sponge, and with this type of mindset, the consensus/contrarian only means something if the $ is behind that. You are probably right about the COL/PHI game, but what happens if 7/10 take Dallas -10.5 tonight. Wow, 70% are on Dallas, the house needs Buffalo bad. What if I told you, those 7 bet Dallas -10.5 for 110/100 each and the 3 Buffalo bets were +10.5 550/550 each. Who do think I would need? In the end doesn't only matter where the $ is. I just used the above as an example, and I see Dallas is at 68% and I am sure the $ is following them, case in point I have 2 bets already called into me for Dallas and will be eating them. Go Bills.


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yep 40 point dogs always seem to beat the favorite. Im willing to bet that this never happen unless there were coaches with big names involve. Funny when i looked at that line i thought it was the biggest joke on the board. I thought it should have been around 70. Then all the sudden you see it dropping like someone is betting Stanford when nobody was.

I think it was simply a case of USC being vastly over-rated. Along w/ the fact they probably didnt take Stanford at all seriously & were not focus.

Combine that w/ a coach who dislikes Carroll & USC & a team that is 100% motivated & giving it their all vs a team mailing it in.

I dont know man, I dont see why USC would ruin a NC shot to fix a game. Carroll is way to big of an ego-maniac to give that up.
 

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I don't gamble on shit i know is a bunch of luck.

People can be very random too. There is more luck involved in sports than you realize. I'm just trying to help you out - I'm sorry if you can't understand that concept.

I'll ask for a 3rd time - you ever play sports?
 

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what you ought to do bro is get the phone records of that crooked usc coach (former pro) and that former pro Quarterback (Haurbaugh stanford coach)) and see if these two crooks planned that Stanford win. Cmon man SC is like a pro team and Stanford is horrible. It wouldn't be the first time two coaches got caught talking on the phone giving each others their plays. Bear Bryant and Vince Dooley got caught years ago.

Wow... The conspiracy gets better...

You have too much free time on your hands.


As much as it hurts me to say Stanford was the better team on Sat. They deserved to win that game.

SC has got a swollen head from the media.
They think they can just suit up, step on the field a get a W. It looks like Cal is the "REAL"
contender in the Pac10.
I personally have seen enough of
QB. J.D.Booty and RB. C.Washington.
I would love to see M.Sanchez get his chance.
Booty seems like a robot. He locks on to a target and never looks at the rest of the field. Thats why he has fallen a few notches from LY.
I'm sure not having LY's 2 all american WR will help his stats fall too.

Sorry for the long USC post.
 

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Smurph here is my problem with you. I think we can agree that this president lied us into a war and a lot of his buddies are making a lot of money because of this war. There really can't be anything more dispicable then that. Yet in your mind you feel there is no way in the world there might be some riftraft involved in betting sports. Your so convinced none of this could possiblY happen. How is it that the public bettors could possibly be this stupid? A. because they are just bad handicappers? Or B. something is wrong with this picture. When i see strange things right before my eyes, i examine them. Others don't. Now the site owner doesn't even know one of the biggest crooks in the league is his teams quarterback. Just watch how this dog plays when there is huge money bet on him. You saw it on Sunday if you looked close enough. He couldn't do anything but when he really needed to move the ball to cover that spread at the end of the game he moved it with ease. If he didn't they would have had to go for a fgoal and this would have put the game over the spread. Mcnair is a fantastick quarterback who unfortunately has to do what the league tells him to do. When Baltimore played Indy last year i was gonna bet Jack and give him what he wanted that i would be okay with. Just a simple bet because i knew Mcnair couldn't win that game with all that huge money on him. Imagine all the rage from the team moving. Peyton playing poorly, Indy's defense looking awful. the only reason i didn't ask him for the bet was because i was kinda new and the biggest reason was the pinnacle fiasco took place that week. Mcnair, Favre, Hassleback, Mcnab, Lienart now, are just a few who if you bet them in a big spot where all the money is on them 9 out of ten times they lose. Okay im out of this thread. Oh and by the way the bet i wanted to win from Jack would have blew up in my face so im glad it never took place.
 

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Bills need a Parrish runback for a td, which is a definite possibility, especially with Dallas best special teams cover guy out with injury. They also need Witten, TO or whoever else to fumble the ball at least twice. This will have to happen for them to have any chance to win or hang close. But when analyzing this game you should no one thing, Edwards is better than Losman. He is taller and more accurate in the pocket. Losman days as the starter are over. With that said, I think Buffalo gets crushed 34-17.


bingo, got a real good look at Buffalo against New England couple weeks ago. Walk away from the game saying Losman is finished. Reminded me of when Bledsoe got injured & Brady First started. Edwards about as good as you can in a slaughter at New England. You could see his confidence growing throughout the game. His No. last week were very good. Buffalo is capable of playing pretty dam good football in orchard Park. I have many many times seen much more talented Patriot teams struggle in Buffalo.
One opening week Buffalo killed New England 31-0. That said, I really think NFL would love 2 undefeated teams playing next week. But that certainly doesn't mean buffalo can't cover.
 

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People can be very random too. There is more luck involved in sports than you realize. I'm just trying to help you out - I'm sorry if you can't understand that concept.

I'll ask for a 3rd time - you ever play sports?

what the hell does playing sports have to do with betting them? Yeah i played them all and coached one. Yeah your trying to help me out. Go check out what i was saying last night about Favre and he was doing everything i said. I don't have ESP. It looked like it but trust me i dont.
 

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Smurph here is my problem with you.
Yes, go on...
I think we can agree that this president lied us into a war and a lot of his buddies are making a lot of money because of this war.
Sort of, but OK. Not the right forum for that discussion.
Yet in your mind you feel there is no way in the world there might be some riftraft involved in betting sports. Your so convinced none of this could possiblY happen.
Never said that, but there is almost no motive for this in the NFL and major NCAA schools. ...And the frequency you suggest is laughable.
How is it that the public bettors could possibly be this stupid? A. because they are just bad handicappers? Or B. something is wrong with this picture. When i see strange things right before my eyes, i examine them. Others don't. Now the site owner doesn't even know one of the biggest crooks in the league is his teams quarterback. Just watch how this dog plays when there is huge money bet on him. You saw it on Sunday if you looked close enough. He couldn't do anything but when he really needed to move the ball to cover that spread at the end of the game he moved it with ease. If he didn't they would have had to go for a fgoal and this would have put the game over the spread. Mcnair is a fantastick quarterback who unfortunately has to do what the league tells him to do. When Baltimore played Indy last year i was gonna bet Jack and give him what he wanted that i would be okay with. Just a simple bet because i knew Mcnair couldn't win that game with all that huge money on him. Imagine all the rage from the team moving. Peyton playing poorly, Indy's defense looking awful. the only reason i didn't ask him for the bet was because i was kinda new and the biggest reason was the pinnacle fiasco took place that week. Mcnair, Favre, Hassleback, Mcnab, Lienart now, are just a few who if you bet them in a big spot where all the money is on them 9 out of ten times they lose. Okay im out of this thread. Oh and by the way the bet i wanted to win from Jack would have blew up in my face so im glad it never took place.
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I would like to nominate this thread for the MJ HOF.

I am one of the few that doesn't think Sponge is crazy, but I think he takes it a lot further than I'm willing to go. Smurph is one of my favorite posters, and to see him losing his mind debating Sponge is as entertaining as this board gets. I'm sure it has to remind some people of my religious debates with the believers.

Smurph: Your response to the phone call post caused me to spit out my water.

Good stuff.
 
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