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Quick question, since freedom of speech seems to be the issue here, and ripping Biden and Obama for avoiding questions.

First, does freedom of speech give you the opportunity to speak what you want, where you want, and not engage people with a clear agenda against you in discourse when you clearly have nothing to gain and everything to lose?

Please keep George W. Bush in mind when answering. Not that you would have ANYthing to go on in that regard with answering any questions, but, nonetheless, I will look for responses.
 

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WOW Obama cuts of interviews and you start a thread BUT Palin doesnt give em and you find reasons and excuses!!!

OBAMA '08!!!!!:00hour

Hmmm, I guess her dancing around on SNL was a good enough interview. GOP has been protecting her all along and theres nothing mentioned or any response to that point....at all
 

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Well, no.

I'm just trying to address your theme of family values and all that and how important it is to you.

I mentioned before that I think Bubba's family values are lacking.

For the 15th time, what do you think about McCain's family values?
I think I said something like 'normal home life.' I agree, he has had a pretty colorful (no pun intended) life in general.

Sometimes people like that have a bit of perspective and nuance and greater appreciation for the world as a whole that people that you admire (silver spoons) might lack.

Who knows?

I ask you before--would you like me to start with family history--military history--post military/senate.

Or would you like me to elaborate about divorce with wife who has been on her death bed for bout 3 decades now and should I include the compensatios he continues to give or--and would you like her comments on situation/divorce:shrug:
 

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I ask you before--would you like me to start with family history--military history--post military/senate.

Or would you like me to elaborate about divorce with wife who has been on her death bed for bout 3 decades now and should I include the compensatios he continues to give or--and would you like her comments on situation/divorce:shrug:


Nah, just his family values. Crashing planes and who your daddy is has nothing to do with it.

You're the one who constantly brings up family values and how important they are to you when considering a candidate.
 

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Wayne, I will bet you a dollar to a doughnut that Obama will hold more press conferences than George Bush has held, and will be more forthcoming and less dismissive during those than Bush has been. And I will go double or nothing that Obama will actually be present in the White House and take fewer vacation days than Bush has done. I figure McCain to be more like Bush in that regard, so I think it does matter and it will be a plus.

On both of those counts, I wager Obama to be a better President than Bush has been, and McCain would be.
 

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Nah, just his family values. Crashing planes and who your daddy is has nothing to do with it.

You're the one who constantly brings up family values and how important they are to you when considering a candidate.

Believe its character and values I constantly bring up--It was your conclusion that only reason you voted for O is he hadn't been divorced :)

Tell us honestly would it have made any diff to you had O and Michele been in video giving the ole knuckle rap next to the Rev in his GD america--or video of Ayres and O surfaced with him them laughing at those they conned--or had Rezco been found to have paid for all of O's house.

Seriously wouldn't have made a diff to many of you--because your parents voted Dem you will find way to justify your vote.

What if he came on TV before you voted
and did the ole :nono: in your face-you'd still be making excuses for him ten years from now. :)
 

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Pure genius on Obamas part to cut off interviews, as there is no reason to give Faxux News any sound bites to twist. It's going to be strange having a president who can actually utter a actual sentence without butchering the english language.
 

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Wayne, I will bet you a dollar to a doughnut that Obama will hold more press conferences than George Bush has held, and will be more forthcoming and less dismissive during those than Bush has been. And I will go double or nothing that Obama will actually be present in the White House and take fewer vacation days than Bush has done. I figure McCain to be more like Bush in that regard, so I think it does matter and it will be a plus.

On both of those counts, I wager Obama to be a better President than Bush has been, and McCain would be.

I agree he won't be able to get enough--AFTER he's elected.

Same as grifter celebrating after the sting:shrug:

Personally I like to find out the facts before I vote for person --rather than after.

Did it ever entered your mind when they boycott certain news org debates--boycott news station that ask questions--that there might be something they don't want to be asked.

Basically its like saying I'll answer questions I want to hear--and the rest of you get out of here.

On your wager in O being better pres--in what respect.

Economy-
Foreign affairs
Fighting terror

then tell us what he has done to make you believe it.
 
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Pure genius on Obamas part to cut off interviews, as there is no reason to give Faxux News any sound bites to twist. It's going to be strange having a president who can actually utter a actual sentence without butchering the english language.

Would agree was great idea if he wants elected--but best idea was the hispanic ads that were taken out of context--another brilliant move--

I am happy for you that you may have pres you can identify with--and will provide you and your family with hope.
 

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Believe its character and values I constantly bring up--It was your conclusion that only reason you voted for O is he hadn't been divorced :)

Tell us honestly would it have made any diff to you had O and Michele been in video giving the ole knuckle rap next to the Rev in his GD america--or video of Ayres and O surfaced with him them laughing at those they conned--or had Rezco been found to have paid for all of O's house.

Seriously wouldn't have made a diff to many of you--because your parents voted Dem you will find way to justify your vote.

What if he came on TV before you voted
and did the ole :nono: in your face-you'd still be making excuses for him ten years from now. :)

--It was your conclusion that only reason you voted for O is he hadn't been divorced

What???

No. I (and others) have asked you a bunch of times about your opinion of McCain's family values regarding him :director: CHEATING ON HIS WIFE WITH A YOUNG RICH MISTRESS WHILE HIS WIFE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL PRETTY FUCKING BANGED UP.

YOU are the one who prattles on about 'family values.' I haven't never mentioned McCains divorce.

Are you out of your mind? After all this, you take away that I will vote for Obama because he's never been divorced?

WTF is going on around here? It's bizarro world.
 

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Tell us honestly would it have made any diff to you had O and Michele been in video giving the ole knuckle rap next to the Rev in his GD america--or video of Ayres and O surfaced with him them laughing at those they conned--or had Rezco been found to have paid for all of O's house.


Simply silly.

Would it have changed your vote if video came out of McCain giving W a blowjob? Tell us honestly. Come on.
 

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Seriously wouldn't have made a diff to many of you--because your parents voted Dem you will find way to justify your vote.

Dad- when he was alive was a pretty strong racist(more along the lines of 'jokes' and such after his teen years) and dedicated republican. Says he and his brother in the old days rode around Youngstown shooting at blacks.

His brother mentioned above- career is working for the republican party full-time in Youngstown to this day.

Mom- spams me at least twice weekly with those idiotic chain emails that a lot of people post here. Claims Obama is a Muslim and is not a citizen. Won't believe anything else.

I could go on down the line.

I am(was in my dads case) very close with all of them, we just disagree(d) politically, but we never argued about it.
 

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What if he came on TV before you voted
and did the ole :nono: in your face-you'd still be making excuses for him ten years from now.

If he did the 'wag' about something even remotely important to our country (Nixon comes to mind), then I doubt many would be defending him 10 years from now. If it's about sex outside of his marriage, depending on how everything else went, he might get some slack.
 

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i think it looks bad by Obama/mcCain but this isnt a new thing. Lee Atwater used to have his candidates do the same thing. It's a little different here because Obama/Biden are so used to fluff and drool when interviewed, but this isnt something any different than what McCain would do. Just like McCain wouldnt go on MSDNC because he knows Olberman's questions would be a joke.

So to me its a non-issue...and if the media had even bothered to try and go after this guy for 19 months we wouldnt be here...of course that would mean Hillary would win.....
 

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Simply silly.

Would it have changed your vote if video came out of McCain giving W a blowjob? Tell us honestly. Come on.

No-- I would not have voted for him if that occured.
--and wouldn't have had to be GW either--a 19 year old page would have done the trick. ;)
 

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More hiding the facts--

LA Times Refuses to Release Tape of Obama Praising Controversial Activist
Video of farewell party for alleged PLO worker shows Obama toasting 'friend and dinner companion' with questionable past.

The Los Angeles Times is refusing to release a videotape that it says shows Barack Obama praising a Chicago professor who was an alleged mouthpiece for the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was a designated terrorist group in the 1970s and '80s.

According an LA Times article written by Peter Wallsten in April, Obama was a "friend and frequent dinner companion" of Rashid Khalidi, who from 1976 to1982 was reportedly a director of the official Palestinian press agency, WAFA, which was operating in exile from Beirut with the PLO.

Click here to read the original LA Times story: 'Palestinians See a Friend in Barack Obama.'

In the article -- based on the videotape obtained by the Times -- Wallsten said Obama addressed an audience during a 2003 farewell dinner for Khalidi, who was Obama's colleague at the University of Chicago, before his departure for Columbia University in New York. Obama said his many talks with Khalidi and his wife Mona stood as "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases."

Khalidi is currently the Edward Said professor of Arab Studies at Columbia. A pro-Palestinian activist, he has been a fierce critic of American foreign policy and of Israel, which he has accused of establishing an "apartheid system" of government. The PLO advocate helped facilitate negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians in the early '90s, but he has denied he was ever an employee of the group, contradicting accounts in the New York Times and Washington Times.
 

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I agree he won't be able to get enough--AFTER he's elected.

Same as grifter celebrating after the sting:shrug:

Personally I like to find out the facts before I vote for person --rather than after.

Did it ever entered your mind when they boycott certain news org debates--boycott news station that ask questions--that there might be something they don't want to be asked.

Basically its like saying I'll answer questions I want to hear--and the rest of you get out of here.

On your wager in O being better pres--in what respect.

Economy-
Foreign affairs
Fighting terror

then tell us what he has done to make you believe it.

Well, I personally have more than enough facts to vote for Obama compared to McCain, with everything I've learned and studied to this point. You have been very dismissive of a few people around here of late, Wayne, and I am quite comfortable with my exposure, understanding of issues, and the candidates to make a decision. My comment on who would be a better President in the regards we were talking about was spelled out in my post - in regards to the two counts we were talking about - and I would think that should have been clear. Maybe you are practicing fuzzy english now that fuzzy math has left you hollow?

My point was - and you ignored it - that Obama has done more with the press and will probably continue to do so than the current President - and the current President has never been mentioned by you in this regard - both before and after his election. It only matters when you are trying to score political points, yet again. Obama has done more than the current President has ever done in regards to dealing with the media. Except for maybe hiring and staffing Faux News, that is.
 

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Well, I personally have more than enough facts to vote for Obama compared to McCain, with everything I've learned and studied to this point. You have been very dismissive of a few people around here of late, Wayne, and I am quite comfortable with my exposure, understanding of issues, and the candidates to make a decision. My comment on who would be a better President in the regards we were talking about was spelled out in my post - in regards to the two counts we were talking about - and I would think that should have been clear. Maybe you are practicing fuzzy english now that fuzzy math has left you hollow?

My point was - and you ignored it - that Obama has done more with the press and will probably continue to do so than the current President - and the current President has never been mentioned by you in this regard - both before and after his election. It only matters when you are trying to score political points, yet again. Obama has done more than the current President has ever done in regards to dealing with the media. Except for maybe hiring and staffing Faux News, that is.

WONDERFUL--please share them with us--

Thats all I've been asking for 18 months --and can't get anyone to step forward yet.:shrug:
 

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Sure, no problem. I think you know I was not an Obama supporter before - was a Hillary backer, but there's no way I will vote for a continuation of policies from the past few years, especially Iraq.

1. I honestly think Obama is a principled man, for the most part. I like his personality traits and his seemingly good family values, especially considering where he came from.

2. I respect where he came from, what he accomplished coming up, and admire his intelligence and leadership qualities. I think those will serve him (and our country) well as President.

3. Now, more than ever, I feel a Constitutional Scholar is important feature for a President in leading this country. The past 7 years have been an unchecked assault on our Constitution from the current administration, IMO, and would like to see a new perspective on that.

4. I personally think that being a good communicator is one of the most important positives that a President can have in many different areas. Good communication skills can motivate others, help other countries feel better about what the person is talking about. They can be a plus in building alliances and strengthening relationships, both at home and abroad. And his skills can repair damage that has been done on this front by the current administration. Obama kicks ass in this area.

5. I feel he will pick people well to stand with him as leaders for our country. A good cabinet, and people in important positions. Biden is a good example (IMO). Compare that to Palin, all I have to say about that. I feel he will listen to others (the good people I think he will pick) and use their judgments to formulate policy. I don't think a close group of suspect individuals will dominate our policies moving forward - and this is a big thing for me.

6. Although he probably stands for more liberal things than I do, he definitely represents my views better than McCain, or whomever McCain is this week.

7. If something happens to him, the person I like the most of any of the people running for President will then be President. The other view - Palin? One of my most disturbing fears. Not really a prop for Obama here, but a voting thought for me.

8. 8 Years in state legislature. Highly populated one at that.

9. Nearly 4 years as a Senator of Illinois. That makes 12 years of legislative experience, and he is/was a member of many committees and panels during that time, very diverse legislative background. Should prepare him well for what he has to deal with in the White House.

Extremely intelligent. Experienced. Personable. Strong Character. Great Communicator. Motivator. Sounds like a good President in the making to me.
 

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Sure, no problem. I think you know I was not an Obama supporter before - was a Hillary backer, but there's no way I will vote for a continuation of policies from the past few years, especially Iraq.

1. I honestly think Obama is a principled man, for the most part. I like his personality traits and his seemingly good family values, especially considering where he came from.

2. I respect where he came from, what he accomplished coming up, and admire his intelligence and leadership qualities. I think those will serve him (and our country) well as President.

3. Now, more than ever, I feel a Constitutional Scholar is important feature for a President in leading this country. The past 7 years have been an unchecked assault on our Constitution from the current administration, IMO, and would like to see a new perspective on that.

4. I personally think that being a good communicator is one of the most important positives that a President can have in many different areas. Good communication skills can motivate others, help other countries feel better about what the person is talking about. They can be a plus in building alliances and strengthening relationships, both at home and abroad. And his skills can repair damage that has been done on this front by the current administration. Obama kicks ass in this area.

5. I feel he will pick people well to stand with him as leaders for our country. A good cabinet, and people in important positions. Biden is a good example (IMO). Compare that to Palin, all I have to say about that. I feel he will listen to others (the good people I think he will pick) and use their judgments to formulate policy. I don't think a close group of suspect individuals will dominate our policies moving forward - and this is a big thing for me.

6. Although he probably stands for more liberal things than I do, he definitely represents my views better than McCain, or whomever McCain is this week.

7. If something happens to him, the person I like the most of any of the people running for President will then be President. The other view - Palin? One of my most disturbing fears. Not really a prop for Obama here, but a voting thought for me.

8. 8 Years in state legislature. Highly populated one at that.

9. Nearly 4 years as a Senator of Illinois. That makes 12 years of legislative experience, and he is/was a member of many committees and panels during that time, very diverse legislative background. Should prepare him well for what he has to deal with in the White House.

Extremely intelligent. Experienced. Personable. Strong Character. Great Communicator. Motivator. Sounds like a good President in the making to me.[/QUOTE]

:toast: Best attempt I've seen yet.

Intelligent yes

Experienced--junior Senator?

Character What do we know about his character other than the characters he's associated with.
--and that he'll change positions at the drop of a hat from primary to general election--you don't want to bring his Ill voting record into play do you?
Maybe you could elaborate on his character traits you admire--
This could get interesting.:)

Motivator-great communicator-Personable
Ah--The Tony Robbins effect
-- can we chalk thiose up under Rhetoric
 
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