SIA has Cuse +35
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From SIA's rules and regs:
Sports Interaction cannot accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in respect of the announcing, publishing, or marking of prices, runners, times or results, despite every effort to ensure their accuracy. In the event that such an error occurs, Sports Interaction reserves the right to either void any affected bets or to correct the error and settle the affected bets at the correct odds at the time of acceptance or at the starting price for the event (where applicable).
It is much better to let them know about an error rather than bet it. Most books appreciate the call and will reward with you a bonus.
Sports Interaction cannot accept responsibility for any errors or omissions in respect of the announcing, publishing, or marking of prices, runners, times or results, despite every effort to ensure their accuracy. In the event that such an error occurs, Sports Interaction reserves the right to either void any affected bets or to correct the error and settle the affected bets at the correct odds at the time of acceptance or at the starting price for the event (where applicable).
It is much better to let them know about an error rather than bet it. Most books appreciate the call and will reward with you a bonus.
If you were smart, you would have informed them of the line error. Usually books will give you a free bet or some sort of comp. Or you can be a weasel and get nuttin'
It's got nothing to with the books, you dopes! It has to do with what kind of person YOU are!
I would love to be there when you get fuked over, to see the "that's how it goes" look you give.
Yeah, right.
I would love to be there when you get fuked over, to see the "that's how it goes" look you give.
Yeah, right.
I consider myself a very honest person. And I'm not someone who "looks for an angle" to screw someone else. Personally, I have never placed a bet on a "bad line" myself. All I was saying is that I really have no sympathy for the books. Why should you?
This isn't a matter of honesty for me, it's a matter of personal accountability, which is a completely foreign concept to most people these days. If you screw up, buck up and admit your mistake, and make it right. Period. If you need other people looking out for you and covering your ass all the time, maybe you shouldn't be in business.
And if you're a sportsbook and you have some dumbass working for you who is posting lines that are 31' points off, you should be more concerned with why that guy is in your employ, rather than individual bettors who try to take advantage of that line.
Just my .02.
Why do you have no sympathy for the books? They are just another business trying to make money. Do you not have sympathy for the bakery down the street or the gas station on the corner?
Also is someone really needing to cover SIA's ass all the time? I don't use them, but do they have a history of posting lines with errors?
Also is someone really needing to cover SIA's ass all the time? I don't use them, but do they have a history of posting lines with errors?
Why do you feel that way. Granted there are places that rip people off but places like 5dimes, thegreek and pinny when it was here amongst others are great.
If they were not here you would be betting with a local and not having the options you have now with online betting. They are providing you with a place to place wagers and are providing a service so i do not get why some people feel this way about books.
It is all about being a dishonest person.
The fact that txag did not just place a normal wager he placed a max wager makes it even worse in my opinion. There is human error at some books, with the amount of games on a saturday mistakes happen. 5dimes misgraded a tennis match for me this am no biggy mistakes happen i alerted them and they fixed in minutes.
I do not get why you would try and steal this way.
To answer your questions...
I was exaggerating when I said 'cover your ass all the time.' I know mistake lines are rare, but IMO if you make a mistake, you admit your mistake and honor whatever you posted. And when I said I have no sympathy for books, I meant only in the instance(s) that if/when they post a bad line, someone tries to take advantage of it. Otherwise, I have no problem with sportsbooks. Like you said, they are a business like any other business. As I mentioned before though, if I accidentally bet on the wrong side, and that side loses, should I expect them to void my bet? It was a mistake, right?
As for the bakery analogy, I'm not sure how that applies to posting a bad line? But in keeping with that analogy, if the baker put .20 on something that was supposed to say $2, he should sell it for .20. His mistake, he eats it.
Again, this is all about personal accountability, or the lack thereof, to me. Why should people NOT be held responsible for their actions? I don't think anyone will ever be able to convince me that they shouldn't.
I was exaggerating when I said 'cover your ass all the time.' I know mistake lines are rare, but IMO if you make a mistake, you admit your mistake and honor whatever you posted. And when I said I have no sympathy for books, I meant only in the instance(s) that if/when they post a bad line, someone tries to take advantage of it. Otherwise, I have no problem with sportsbooks. Like you said, they are a business like any other business. As I mentioned before though, if I accidentally bet on the wrong side, and that side loses, should I expect them to void my bet? It was a mistake, right?
As for the bakery analogy, I'm not sure how that applies to posting a bad line? But in keeping with that analogy, if the baker put .20 on something that was supposed to say $2, he should sell it for .20. His mistake, he eats it.
Again, this is all about personal accountability, or the lack thereof, to me. Why should people NOT be held responsible for their actions? I don't think anyone will ever be able to convince me that they shouldn't.
So if a car dealer had a $70k Porsche on his lot and the sticker said $7k you feel entitlled to purchase the car for $7k? I guess you would say, "Learn from your mistake, Pal." It's called KARMA.
Has that ever happened?? I love when the ridiculous hypotheticals always come out during differences of opinion to try and strengthen a point. Like I said, I personally don't try to take advantage of mistakes like that. But I find it amusing that so many people jump all over someone who tried to take advantage of a bad line. It's "stealing" to some people? Wow. That's a bit of a stretch.
And we all know the bet will be voided. If anything he hurt himself by betting on the bad line instead of the +3'.
As for karma, I really don't believe in it. It would be great if it did exist though, because I should have a lot of it built up.
I believe in karma and I'm living proof that it does exist... Don't think this is a big karma question but the right road is usualy the best road to get there.... when you do the right thing it will come back to you at some point... You never know when the one time you don't bites you in the ass big time. As one that gambles, I try not to gamble with karma.
Fair enough. I respect your opinion and your beliefs.
And let me also just say I wasn't trying to piss anybody off or instigate anything. I think my posts may have come off as sounding like I'm all for people screwing others over whenever they get the chance, and that couldn't be further from the truth. I'm just a big believer in being accountable for your actions and righting your wrongs. To me that's a sign of integrity.
Glen,
The baker reference was pertaining to being just another business - i.e. do you not have sympathy for any businesses since you don't have sympathy for the books. That's all.
And Fade's ridiculous hypothetical was at the exact same rate of your baker hypothetical - 10% of the alleged actual listing price.
The baker reference was pertaining to being just another business - i.e. do you not have sympathy for any businesses since you don't have sympathy for the books. That's all.
And Fade's ridiculous hypothetical was at the exact same rate of your baker hypothetical - 10% of the alleged actual listing price.
I agree with you/// I think the book should pay for his max bet...... If you are in business ,even if someone is trying to pull a fast one on you, you have to set your standards above theirs... you may lose on that transaction but no one can question you.... Thats karma, they will get it back 10 x's if they pay it....
Poon,
It's not that I have it out for the books or anything. I only meant in the rare instance of them posting a bad line, I don't have a lot of sympathy. It's human error, but they need to have that checked before it's posted. I don't care if you have 8 people checking, make sure it's right before you post it. That's why I said I don't have a lot of sympathy in that scenario. Come on, there are thousands upon thousands of dollars being bet on these games. If you screw up the line, it's on you as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I suppose the Porsche and bakery analogy were both 10% of actual price. It just seems more likely that that error would take place when you're dealing with something that costs $2 as opposed to $70k. The stakes are obviously a lot higher on the car. But I guess it could happen.
It's not that I have it out for the books or anything. I only meant in the rare instance of them posting a bad line, I don't have a lot of sympathy. It's human error, but they need to have that checked before it's posted. I don't care if you have 8 people checking, make sure it's right before you post it. That's why I said I don't have a lot of sympathy in that scenario. Come on, there are thousands upon thousands of dollars being bet on these games. If you screw up the line, it's on you as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, I suppose the Porsche and bakery analogy were both 10% of actual price. It just seems more likely that that error would take place when you're dealing with something that costs $2 as opposed to $70k. The stakes are obviously a lot higher on the car. But I guess it could happen.
Absolutely. Not to mention it is GREAT business. Can you imagine how happy that one customer would be? Think about how many people he tells about that good experience? And how many people they tell, etc.
It's the Les Schwab mentality. Go above and beyond customer expectations and, long-term, it will pay off big time.
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