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[DOGS THAT BARK]

If you had equal money in each when they started, you would have 8x initial investment.

I was tracking and finally did invest in both. It was working beautifully for 2 weeks. But the last 3 days have given that profit back. Oil is getting killed, but the appeal of shorting has apparently also waned.:shrug:

I'll keep it going for now, but the great trend might be over.

I like your approach Smurph--just hang tight.
Much oil oil tar sands-shale is not profitable to extract at under $60 and they will/have been cutting back--probably won't see the results till summer but in risk/reward scenerio upside way out weighs downside IMO.

Sometimes we can be over analytical. Look at it from simplist view--how many times in last decade has oil been under $40--and when it was for what lenth of time--with all the spending going on world wide for infrastructure do you expect more gas and oil to be consumed or less?

 

[dawgball]

yes yes - my mistake. you are right - 5x. And it was still on that pace for the month of January and well into this month. The last 3 days are either an aberation, or the trend has stopped. :shrug:

I think we're probably seeing the end of the trend. We're still in the same area that I feel is very near the bottom ($35).

If you are playing that one will go up faster than the other goes down, then now is the time to sell both of them.

Be patient and wait until the day they are back to being close in value (guaranteed to happen at some point unless a true outlier happens and DXO goes to $0). When they get to be near the same value again, buy them both again.

Maybe mathematically it makes perfect sense to buy them both at the same time?? Since they are recalculated every day, the one going up has to go up faster??? is this correct.

Theoretically:
Both at $25.

Oil drops 10%. DXO = $20; DTO = $30. (both move 20% in the proper direction) Net profit of $0. Then recalculate.

Oil drops another 10%. DXO = $16; DTO = $36. Net Profit = $2 per share. Then recalculate.

Oil drops another 10%. DXO = $12.80; DTO = 43.20. Net Profit = $4 per share. Then recalculate.

Does that make any sense?

 

[vinnie]

Where Jackie :shrug:

 

[vinnie]

 

[smurphy]

I think we're probably seeing the end of the trend. We're still in the same area that I feel is very near the bottom ($35).

If you are playing that one will go up faster than the other goes down, then now is the time to sell both of them.

Be patient and wait until the day they are back to being close in value (guaranteed to happen at some point unless a true outlier happens and DXO goes to $0). When they get to be near the same value again, buy them both again.

Maybe mathematically it makes perfect sense to buy them both at the same time?? Since they are recalculated every day, the one going up has to go up faster??? is this correct.

Theoretically:
Both at $25.

Oil drops 10%. DXO = $20; DTO = $30. (both move 20% in the proper direction) Net profit of $0. Then recalculate.

Oil drops another 10%. DXO = $16; DTO = $36. Net Profit = $2 per share. Then recalculate.

Oil drops another 10%. DXO = $12.80; DTO = 43.20. Net Profit = $4 per share. Then recalculate.

Does that make any sense?

Yes - it makes sense and I've paid attention to it in those terms. After 2 weeks, my DTO investment was worth a lot more than the DXO side. If they moved by the same % in a given day, I was making money because of exactly what you show.

I reset the investment last Friday to make it equal again. ...But that caused Monday and Tuesday to be worse than it would have been otherwise.

Looks like Today is good for the 'trend' again. I'll give it more time...

 

[vinnie]

Sold 7000 shares of SRZ @.87 I'll take the $1100 profit for the week :00hour


just have DXO now @ $1.75 & $2.00 (2000 each) :0corn

 

[dawgball]

DXO having a nice run up late in the day. Back up over 2.00.

Really confused by what is happening.

When the last bull leaves the room is the best time to buy. And I am wavering now which I have always felt that 7500 was our bottom. Now I'm not sure.

 

[ga_ben]

Jason, I think the bears have a lot more room to run. With the government becoming so intertwined in the banks I think its scaring the hell out of investors. I wouldn't be surprised to see 6000-6500 at some point.

 

[MadJack]

Sold 7000 shares of SRZ @.87 I'll take the $1100 profit for the week :00hour

:nono:

This is not the time to sell. Its a good time to accumulate

i now have 25K shares :scared

 

[vinnie]

:nono:

This is not the time to sell. Its a good time to accumulate

i now have 25K shares :scared

I'm taking little bites & doing very well


Good Luck !

 

[MadJack]

will buy more at .60 and that's it.

it won't take much to move it up quick but we need to hear about the refinancing.

 

[ga_ben]

Sobering read. Title "Examples: Confidence Destroyed"

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

 

[vinnie]

:00x11

 

[MadJack]

:00x11

:s1: ..

 

[vinnie]

:s1: ..

:sadwave:

 

[MadJack]

:sadwave:

:sadwave:

 

[vinnie]

:sadwave:

maybe I will just take it out and plop in on red or black :shrug:

 

[MadJack]

i can't take CAT and CMI out. I might have a LONG wait :sadwave:

 

[vinnie]

i can't take CAT and CMI out. I might have a LONG wait :sadwave:

what a fucking mess :em38:

 

[MadJack]

what a fucking mess :em38:

i need a time machine to go back about 6 months. christ!