the cop was 100% right, the professor was 100% wrong all he had to do was show his id with his address not his harvard id. He just wanted to make it into a race issue and so he called Obama who hates whites to make it a huge issue. Obama should have known better than to answer any questions until he had the facts not just one side of the racist professors account. Obama and the Prof are racist and want to make sure every white person knows
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the cop was 100% right, the professor was 100% wrong all he had to do was show his id with his address not his harvard id. He just wanted to make it into a race issue and so he called Obama who hates whites to make it a huge issue. Obama should have known better than to answer any questions until he had the facts not just one side of the racist professors account. Obama and the Prof are racist and want to make sure every white person knows
hey smart guy, the cop was told by his dispatch who's house it was.. what if he didn't have id ? is this america ?
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You are joking right? Because it sounds like the whole world is making statements about this without knowing facts. Why do you point him out? He has as many facts as any of us plus he has experience, something most of us don't.
And if u knew that ur grandparents were slaves im pretty sure this would sit just lovely with you.
Race card ? come on Ray:shrug: how about your great city who was ran by the biggest raciest of all Rizzo in 70's and early 80's with their great PD, how do you think Mumia Abu-Jamal is treated and has been treated for almost 25 years or John Africa, the MOVE 7, or what the philly pd did to the move members back in 1982 when a city pd chopper dropped a bomb right in the center of the roof killing 6 adults and 5 children and the city letting 68 house burn down from their actions against the MOVE group before they started to really try and put it out?
I did not want to get into this thread but after reading somethings and hedgehog you really get to me in some of your post you are a true redneck raciest, not just in this but on med. care statements , chairty groups do not deserve money, people who have lost jobs are bums and lazy you really make me sick with some of your stupid backwards redneck kkk statements, you should just stay in your part of klan land or just move i know not many in Texas are like you, for godsake shut the fuck up sometimes you have something to say about everything, you talk a lot but say nothing, and most of the time it is pure dumbass, backwards ass raciest bullshit, don't know you nor would ever want to know such a person who talks out his ass like you.
Your a hateful person who cares only about what is good for you:nono:
And the cop, the pro nor the pres. was 100% right they all had faults and unless you were right there you are wrong also, but even if you were there i am sure you would run your kkk redneck pie hole and spin it in favor of the master race you tool:moon:
They are all at fault to some degree, to whom and how much only they know, and I am a not a dem. Far from it . Enough is wrong with the U.S. wedon't need to be wasting time on petty bullshit stuff like this nor waste tax money on it.
I did not want to get into this thread but after reading somethings and hedgehog you really get to me in some of your post you are a true redneck raciest, not just in this but on med. care statements , chairty groups do not deserve money, people who have lost jobs are bums and lazy you really make me sick with some of your stupid backwards redneck kkk statements, you should just stay in your part of klan land or just move i know not many in Texas are like you, for godsake shut the fuck up sometimes you have something to say about everything, you talk a lot but say nothing, and most of the time it is pure dumbass, backwards ass raciest bullshit, don't know you nor would ever want to know such a person who talks out his ass like you.
Your a hateful person who cares only about what is good for you:nono: And the cop, the pro nor the pres. was 100% right they all had faults and unless you were right there you are wrong also, but even if you were there i am sure you would run your kkk redneck pie hole and spin it in favor of the master race you tool:moon:
They are all at fault to some degree, to whom and how much only they know, and I am a not a dem. Far from it . Enough is wrong with the U.S. wedon't need to be wasting time on petty bullshit stuff like this nor waste tax money on it.
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Without knowing the facts of this unfortunate incident, and without any profiling ! Only basing it on past incidents such as this, chances are Forrest was murdered by illegal and/or stolen firearms.
** I am not a representative of the NRA or any other Firearms group **
OK wise guy, who writes the police report? :142smilie :142smilie
Look I am one who thinks everybody was wrong. But really, you don't think the Police Report might be a little bit biased?
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Anyone know exactly HOW MANY TOTAL COPS responded to that call, and was it original roll amount or were back up cars called in? I'll set the number at >5.5 , <5.5
I'll have NO CLUE...I'll go with over, and Im not sure of the escalation or original roll part but IM HOPING it was escalated over 5, the number I heard on a radio show while in NY was surprising but Im not sure if it was downplayed, or blew out of proportion by them.
Everyone was wrong and as an officer of the law, you have to use a calm head even when a subject is excited. Obama, I thought was man enough to admit his wrong and quick lip and ate that, so it was refreshing to hear someone ADMIT and owning up to a little something.
I'll have NO CLUE...I'll go with over, and Im not sure of the escalation or original roll part but IM HOPING it was escalated over 5, the number I heard on a radio show while in NY was surprising but Im not sure if it was downplayed, or blew out of proportion by them.
Everyone was wrong and as an officer of the law, you have to use a calm head even when a subject is excited. Obama, I thought was man enough to admit his wrong and quick lip and ate that, so it was refreshing to hear someone ADMIT and owning up to a little something.
he has been wrong each time he does not have his teleprompter that tells him what to do:142smilie Obama is just a racist buffoon
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Race card ? come on Ray:shrug: how about your great city who was ran by the biggest raciest of all Rizzo in 70's and early 80's with their great PD, how do you think Mumia Abu-Jamal is treated and has been treated for almost 25 years or John Africa, the MOVE 7, or what the philly pd did to the move members back in 1982 when a city pd chopper dropped a bomb right in the center of the roof killing 6 adults and 5 children and the city letting 68 house burn down from their actions against the MOVE group before they started to really try and put it out?
I did not want to get into this thread but after reading somethings and hedgehog you really get to me in some of your post you are a true redneck raciest, not just in this but on med. care statements , chairty groups do not deserve money, people who have lost jobs are bums and lazy you really make me sick with some of your stupid backwards redneck kkk statements, you should just stay in your part of klan land or just move i know not many in Texas are like you, for godsake shut the fuck up sometimes you have something to say about everything, you talk a lot but say nothing, and most of the time it is pure dumbass, backwards ass raciest bullshit, don't know you nor would ever want to know such a person who talks out his ass like you.
And the cop, the pro nor the pres. was 100% right they all had faults and unless you were right there you are wrong also, but even if you were there i am sure you would run your kkk redneck pie hole and spin it in favor of the master race you tool:moon:
They are all at fault to some degree, to whom and how much only they know, and I am a not a dem. Far from it . Enough is wrong with the U.S. wedon't need to be wasting time on petty bullshit stuff like this nor waste tax money on it.
COME ON THE BLACK MAN ALWAYS USE THE RACE CARD, ITS TIME THE BLACK MAN STAND UP AND IS RESIPONBLE FOR HIS OWN ACTION!
AND BE ACCOUNABLE!
THAT WAS MAYOR GOODE WHO DROP THE BOMB AND HE WAS BLACK:mj07: A REAL KILLER
Mumia Abu-Jamal KILL A COP PLAIN AND SIMPLE
RIZZO WAS A GOOD COP AND MAYOR! THE BLACK FOLK LOVE RIZZO:shrug:
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Race card ? come on Ray:shrug: how about your great city who was ran by the biggest raciest of all Rizzo in 70's and early 80's with their great PD, how do you think Mumia Abu-Jamal is treated and has been treated for almost 25 years or John Africa, the MOVE 7, or what the philly pd did to the move members back in 1982 when a city pd chopper dropped a bomb right in the center of the roof killing 6 adults and 5 children and the city letting 68 house burn down from their actions against the MOVE group before they started to really try and put it out?
I did not want to get into this thread but after reading somethings and hedgehog you really get to me in some of your post you are a true redneck raciest, not just in this but on med. care statements , chairty groups do not deserve money, people who have lost jobs are bums and lazy you really make me sick with some of your stupid backwards redneck kkk statements, you should just stay in your part of klan land or just move i know not many in Texas are like you, for godsake shut the fuck up sometimes you have something to say about everything, you talk a lot but say nothing, and most of the time it is pure dumbass, backwards ass raciest bullshit, don't know you nor would ever want to know such a person who talks out his ass like you.
And the cop, the pro nor the pres. was 100% right they all had faults and unless you were right there you are wrong also, but even if you were there i am sure you would run your kkk redneck pie hole and spin it in favor of the master race you tool:moon:
They are all at fault to some degree, to whom and how much only they know, and I am a not a dem. Far from it . Enough is wrong with the U.S. wedon't need to be wasting time on petty bullshit stuff like this nor waste tax money on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE
History
[edit] Origins and belief system
MOVE was created by John Africa, an illiterate and charismatic leader, who dictated a document known as The Guideline (sic) to Donald Glassey. Africa and his followers, most of them black, wore their hair in dreadlocks and advocated a radical form of green politics and a return to hunter-gatherer society while stating their opposition to science, medicine and technology. They believed that chewing garlic, for example, would suffice as a remedy in place of modern western medicine. As John Africa himself had done, his devotees also changed their surnames in reverence to what they regarded as their mother continent.
[edit] Activities prior to 1978
The MOVE members lived in a commune in a house owned by Donald Glassey in the Powelton Village section of West Philadelphia. MOVE members staged bullhorn-amplified, profanity-laced demonstrations against institutions which they opposed morally, such as zoos (they had strong views on animal rights, seeing them connected to black liberation), and speakers whose views they opposed. MOVE made compost piles of garbage and human waste in their yards, attracting rats and cockroaches. Considering it morally wrong to kill them with pest control, they attracted much hostility from their neighbors. Their actions brought close scrutiny from the Philadelphia police.[citation needed]
[edit] 1978 incident
This article may be confusing or unclear to readers. Please help clarify the article; suggestions may be found on the talk page. (June 2009)
In 1978, an end was negotiated to an almost year-long standoff with police. MOVE failed to relocate as required by the court order.[3] When the police later attempted entry, Philadelphia police officer James J. Ramp was killed in a shootout. Seven other police officers, five firefighters, three MOVE members, and three bystanders were injured.[4] As a result, nine MOVE members were found guilty of third-degree murder in the shooting death of a police officer. Seven of the nine became eligible for parole in the spring of 2008, and all seven were denied parole.[5][6] Parole hearings now occur yearly.
[edit] 1985 incident
Subsequently, MOVE relocated to a row house at 6221 Osage Avenue in 1985. On May 13, 1985, responding to months of complaints by neighbors that MOVE members broadcast political messages by bullhorn at all hours and about the health hazard of the compost piles, the Philadelphia Police Department attempted to clear the building.[2] The police tried to remove two wood-and-steel rooftop structures, called bunkers by the police, by dropping a four-pound bomb made of C-4 plastic explosive and Tovex, a dynamite substitute, onto the roof.[7] The resulting explosion caused the house to catch fire, igniting a massive blaze which eventually consumed almost an entire city block.[8] Eleven people, including John Africa, five other adults and five children, died in the resulting fire.[9] Ramona Africa and one child, Birdie Africa, were the only survivors.
Mayor Wilson Goode soon appointed an investigative commission, the PSIC or MOVE commission, which issued its report on March 6, 1986. The report denounced the actions of the city government, stating that "Dropping a bomb on an occupied row house was unconscionable."[10]
In a 1996 civil suit in U.S. federal court, a jury ordered the City of Philadelphia and two former city officials to pay $1.5 million to a survivor and relatives of two people killed in the incident. The jury found that the city used excessive force and violated the members' constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure.[9]
[edit] Origins and belief system
MOVE was created by John Africa, an illiterate and charismatic leader, who dictated a document known as The Guideline (sic) to Donald Glassey. Africa and his followers, most of them black, wore their hair in dreadlocks and advocated a radical form of green politics and a return to hunter-gatherer society while stating their opposition to science, medicine and technology. They believed that chewing garlic, for example, would suffice as a remedy in place of modern western medicine. As John Africa himself had done, his devotees also changed their surnames in reverence to what they regarded as their mother continent.
[edit] Activities prior to 1978
The MOVE members lived in a commune in a house owned by Donald Glassey in the Powelton Village section of West Philadelphia. MOVE members staged bullhorn-amplified, profanity-laced demonstrations against institutions which they opposed morally, such as zoos (they had strong views on animal rights, seeing them connected to black liberation), and speakers whose views they opposed. MOVE made compost piles of garbage and human waste in their yards, attracting rats and cockroaches. Considering it morally wrong to kill them with pest control, they attracted much hostility from their neighbors. Their actions brought close scrutiny from the Philadelphia police.[citation needed]
[edit] 1978 incident
This article may be confusing or unclear to readers. Please help clarify the article; suggestions may be found on the talk page. (June 2009)
In 1978, an end was negotiated to an almost year-long standoff with police. MOVE failed to relocate as required by the court order.[3] When the police later attempted entry, Philadelphia police officer James J. Ramp was killed in a shootout. Seven other police officers, five firefighters, three MOVE members, and three bystanders were injured.[4] As a result, nine MOVE members were found guilty of third-degree murder in the shooting death of a police officer. Seven of the nine became eligible for parole in the spring of 2008, and all seven were denied parole.[5][6] Parole hearings now occur yearly.
[edit] 1985 incident
Subsequently, MOVE relocated to a row house at 6221 Osage Avenue in 1985. On May 13, 1985, responding to months of complaints by neighbors that MOVE members broadcast political messages by bullhorn at all hours and about the health hazard of the compost piles, the Philadelphia Police Department attempted to clear the building.[2] The police tried to remove two wood-and-steel rooftop structures, called bunkers by the police, by dropping a four-pound bomb made of C-4 plastic explosive and Tovex, a dynamite substitute, onto the roof.[7] The resulting explosion caused the house to catch fire, igniting a massive blaze which eventually consumed almost an entire city block.[8] Eleven people, including John Africa, five other adults and five children, died in the resulting fire.[9] Ramona Africa and one child, Birdie Africa, were the only survivors.
Mayor Wilson Goode soon appointed an investigative commission, the PSIC or MOVE commission, which issued its report on March 6, 1986. The report denounced the actions of the city government, stating that "Dropping a bomb on an occupied row house was unconscionable."[10]
In a 1996 civil suit in U.S. federal court, a jury ordered the City of Philadelphia and two former city officials to pay $1.5 million to a survivor and relatives of two people killed in the incident. The jury found that the city used excessive force and violated the members' constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure.[9]
