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Here is article from black writer Thomas Sowell whos views are quite like Bill Crosby's.
his closing --
An 18th century philosopher said, "When I speak I put on a mask. When I act I am forced to take it off." Barack Obama's mask slipped for a moment last week but he quickly recovered, with the help of the media. But we should never forget what we saw.
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A Post-Racial President?
By Thomas Sowell
Many people hoped that the election of a black President of the United States would mark our entering a "post-racial" era, when we could finally put some ugly aspects of our history behind us.
That is quite understandable. But it takes two to tango. Those of us who want to see racism on its way out need to realize that others benefit greatly from crying racism. They benefit politically, financially, and socially.
Barack Obama has been allied with such people for decades. He found it expedient to appeal to a wider electorate as a post-racial candidate, just as he has found it expedient to say a lot of other popular
things-- about campaign finance, about transparency in government, about not rushing legislation through Congress without having it first posted on the Internet long enough to be studied-- all of which turned to be the direct opposite of what he actually did after getting elected.
Those who were shocked at President Obama's cheap shot at the Cambridge police for being "stupid" in arresting Henry Louis Gates must have been among those who let their wishes prevail over the obvious implications of Obama's 20 years of association with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Anyone who can believe that Obama did not understand what the racist rants of Jeremiah Wright meant can believe anything.
With race-- as with campaign finance, transparency and the
rest-- Barack Obama knows what the public wants to hear and that is what he has said. But his policies as president have been the opposite of his rhetoric, with race as with other issues.
As a state senator in Illinois, Obama pushed the "racial profiling" issue, so it is hardly surprising that he jumped to the conclusion that a policeman was racial profiling when in fact the cop was investigating a report received from a neighbor that someone seemed to be breaking into the house that Professor Gates was renting in Cambridge.
For those who are interested in facts-- and these obviously do not include President Obama-- there has been a serious study of racial profiling in a book titled "Are Cops Racist?" by Heather Mac Donald. Her analysis of the data shows how this issue has long been distorted beyond recognition by politics.
The racial profiling issue is a great vote-getter. And if it polarizes the society, that is a price that politicians are willing to pay in order to get votes. Academics who run black studies departments, as Professor Henry Louis Gates does, likewise have a vested interest in racial paranoia.
For "community organizers" as well, racial resentments are a stock in trade. President Obama's background as a community organizer has received far too little attention, though it should have been a high-alert warning that this was no post-racial figure.
What does a community organizer do? What he does not do is organize a community. What he organizes are the resentments and paranoia within a community, directing those feelings against other communities, from whom either benefits or revenge are to be gotten, using whatever rhetoric or tactics will accomplish that purpose.
To think that someone who has spent years promoting grievance and polarization was going to bring us all together as president is a triumph of wishful thinking over reality.
Not only Barack Obama's past, but his present, tell the same story. His appointment of an attorney general who called America "a nation of cowards" for not dialoguing about race was a foretaste of what to expect from Eric Holder.
The way Attorney General Holder has refused to prosecute young black thugs who gathered at a voting site with menacing clubs, in blatant violation of federal laws against intimidating voters, speaks louder than any words from him or his president.
President Obama's first nominee to the Supreme Court is, like Obama himself, someone with a background of years of affiliation with an organization dedicated to promoting racial resentments and a sense of racial entitlement.
An 18th century philosopher said, "When I speak I put on a mask. When I act I am forced to take it off." Barack Obama's mask slipped for a moment last week but he quickly recovered, with the help of the media. But we should never forget what we saw
his closing --
An 18th century philosopher said, "When I speak I put on a mask. When I act I am forced to take it off." Barack Obama's mask slipped for a moment last week but he quickly recovered, with the help of the media. But we should never forget what we saw.
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A Post-Racial President?
By Thomas Sowell
Many people hoped that the election of a black President of the United States would mark our entering a "post-racial" era, when we could finally put some ugly aspects of our history behind us.
That is quite understandable. But it takes two to tango. Those of us who want to see racism on its way out need to realize that others benefit greatly from crying racism. They benefit politically, financially, and socially.
Barack Obama has been allied with such people for decades. He found it expedient to appeal to a wider electorate as a post-racial candidate, just as he has found it expedient to say a lot of other popular
things-- about campaign finance, about transparency in government, about not rushing legislation through Congress without having it first posted on the Internet long enough to be studied-- all of which turned to be the direct opposite of what he actually did after getting elected.
Those who were shocked at President Obama's cheap shot at the Cambridge police for being "stupid" in arresting Henry Louis Gates must have been among those who let their wishes prevail over the obvious implications of Obama's 20 years of association with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Anyone who can believe that Obama did not understand what the racist rants of Jeremiah Wright meant can believe anything.
With race-- as with campaign finance, transparency and the
rest-- Barack Obama knows what the public wants to hear and that is what he has said. But his policies as president have been the opposite of his rhetoric, with race as with other issues.
As a state senator in Illinois, Obama pushed the "racial profiling" issue, so it is hardly surprising that he jumped to the conclusion that a policeman was racial profiling when in fact the cop was investigating a report received from a neighbor that someone seemed to be breaking into the house that Professor Gates was renting in Cambridge.
For those who are interested in facts-- and these obviously do not include President Obama-- there has been a serious study of racial profiling in a book titled "Are Cops Racist?" by Heather Mac Donald. Her analysis of the data shows how this issue has long been distorted beyond recognition by politics.
The racial profiling issue is a great vote-getter. And if it polarizes the society, that is a price that politicians are willing to pay in order to get votes. Academics who run black studies departments, as Professor Henry Louis Gates does, likewise have a vested interest in racial paranoia.
For "community organizers" as well, racial resentments are a stock in trade. President Obama's background as a community organizer has received far too little attention, though it should have been a high-alert warning that this was no post-racial figure.
What does a community organizer do? What he does not do is organize a community. What he organizes are the resentments and paranoia within a community, directing those feelings against other communities, from whom either benefits or revenge are to be gotten, using whatever rhetoric or tactics will accomplish that purpose.
To think that someone who has spent years promoting grievance and polarization was going to bring us all together as president is a triumph of wishful thinking over reality.
Not only Barack Obama's past, but his present, tell the same story. His appointment of an attorney general who called America "a nation of cowards" for not dialoguing about race was a foretaste of what to expect from Eric Holder.
The way Attorney General Holder has refused to prosecute young black thugs who gathered at a voting site with menacing clubs, in blatant violation of federal laws against intimidating voters, speaks louder than any words from him or his president.
President Obama's first nominee to the Supreme Court is, like Obama himself, someone with a background of years of affiliation with an organization dedicated to promoting racial resentments and a sense of racial entitlement.
An 18th century philosopher said, "When I speak I put on a mask. When I act I am forced to take it off." Barack Obama's mask slipped for a moment last week but he quickly recovered, with the help of the media. But we should never forget what we saw
Looks like the news coming out shows Obama was right. Do neo-con ass lickers ever get anything right when their masters play them like the retarded pigeons that they are? Gee the woman even told the cops the guys allegedly breaking in had suitcases. I guess they brought those to fill them up.:mj07: Cop report also a joke. What else is new. Cop didn't act stupidly, they did what they always do. Abuse their powers like they are something special.
This incident did not deserve all of the play that it has gotten. And, unless Obama can pull a miracle out of his hat it has made race relations worse. Gates was way wrong. The cop was wrong. Obama was wrong. The media, as usual, is all wrong.
This incident where everybody acted stupidly should not be on the front burner.
This incident where everybody acted stupidly should not be on the front burner.
-What sources--must be Moveon or Huffington-
We retarted pidgeons see a pattern--
--when O tells us his fav book is Biography of Malcom X (that was pre politics)
--his answer to ties withs terrorist Ayres--I was only 3 when he did it.
--answer-to radical rev/uncle/mentor--depends which time--pre radical exposure or post.
--pre poltics job--community organizer/acorn affiliate
--now association with Gate an avid affirmative action endorser-
Then we have the for the 1st time in my life-spouse ''thats not what I meant.
--so us pigeons are more on same tangent with Sowell per actions vs words--
While you Spongie and your base--readily will believe any rhetoric and will---
--at the mention of any hope/change that involves a free ride on the tax payors back.
material like this makes people like you feel good about your believes and aids in your ability to see what you choose you see. if you believe that reports of, not only racial profiling but economic profiling are distorted, your eyes are not open. your as blind as lady justice is supposed to be... you live in a world that you should hit your knees 3 times a day & thank god for that world that is fantacy for some in america.... our justice system is littered with casualties of the would be blind lady... is the race card dealt when it shouldn't be ? yes, it happens... are there cries of rape, when none accured ? yes it happens.... how many people are raped in america every day ? how many people are treated unjustly because of race and or economic status every day in america ? God bless you and that world you live in..... police have a tuff job to do, some are not as qualified as others... this cop couldn't take a little shit from an old black guy, in his own house/ on his property.. if it was a young poor black guy there would no beer at the white house and he could be sitting in some jail, hospital or morgue. Yes god dose damn some in america.... it all about perspective... you have yours based on your life experience... others have theirs based on theirs . .. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE : EVERYONE SHOULD ALWAYS LEAVE NO DOUBT, GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO SHOW NOT ONLY RESPECT BUT NO DISRESPECT FOR ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER... not only is it the right thing to do... it's self preservation ! if you think you are being mistreated by an officer, be polite, take your chances with the judge... he's not going to kick your ass or shoot you... you can't win a fight with police.... most of the cops out there are great.. what if you run into one like some of the assholes in this forum ?
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Why is it necessaary to point out that Thomas Sowell is a black writter and he thinks like Bing Crosby and or maybe, Bill Cosby ? If he is right or wrong or has good or bad ideas, it has nothing to do with his race... What part of the deck are you dealing from here ???? Your not dealing race cards of the bottom , are you ????? I can't believe you are quoting a black guy.. Is it just me or does anyone see the humor in the fact that Sowell thinks Obama's background as community organizer was overlooked ???? I guess he didn't listen to fellow wannabe conservative Rush Limbaughs pre election verbiage, and the legions of followers that regurgitated his trash day after day.....:shrug: DTB : you knew Obama was a community organizer and what that ment to the enventual destruction of America as we know it... Didn't you ?
-What sources--must be Moveon or Huffington-
We retarted pidgeons see a pattern--
--when O tells us his fav book is Biography of Malcom X (that was pre politics)
--his answer to ties withs terrorist Ayres--I was only 3 when he did it.
--answer-to radical rev/uncle/mentor--depends which time--pre radical exposure or post.
--pre poltics job--community organizer/acorn affiliate
--now association with Gate an avid affirmative action endorser-
Then we have the for the 1st time in my life-spouse ''thats not what I meant.
--so us pigeons are more on same tangent with Sowell per actions vs words--
While you Spongie and your base--readily will believe any rhetoric and will---
--at the mention of any hope/change that involves a free ride on the tax payors back.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/07/gates-neighbor-says-911-call-did-not-mention-race.html
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/re...ons_linger_in_gates_case/srvc=home&position=0
It seems like Crowley has some holes in his story and police report.
DTB : can we trust her ?
DTB : can we trust her ?
Ms. MacDonald is a non practicing lawyer,graduated summa cum lade...rewarded for intellectual achievement ???? sounds like the Obama's... Wounder if she has now or ever possessed any credit card debt as an adult?? :mj07: ?? http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald.htm I'm just going to spit into the wind but I don't think Ms. Mac Donald has ever been racially profiled or sits down for a beer on a regular basis with people that have.... I'm sure some of her best friends are black... Maybe I'm wrong, maybe she's friends with Gates... They sould like the same kind of people... those intellectual types that think they know whats best for and how real working America functions ... Funny where left meets right in this story... It happenes all the time... It's all bull shit ! I know it's easy to say but it is !!!!!
DTB : can we trust her ?
Ms. MacDonald is a non practicing lawyer,graduated summa cum lade...rewarded for intellectual achievement ???? sounds like the Obama's... Wounder if she has now or ever possessed any credit card debt as an adult?? :mj07: ?? http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald.htm I'm just going to spit into the wind but I don't think Ms. Mac Donald has ever been racially profiled or sits down for a beer on a regular basis with people that have.... I'm sure some of her best friends are black... Maybe I'm wrong, maybe she's friends with Gates... They sould like the same kind of people... those intellectual types that think they know whats best for and how real working America functions ... Funny where left meets right in this story... It happenes all the time... It's all bull shit ! I know it's easy to say but it is !!!!!
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So here is a lesson for all of us. Just disrespect the police and as a cop over react to the disrespect and you get to sit down and have a beer with the President. Nice country. All we need is Joe the Plumber and the fousome would be complete.
W?
W?
boy just think if W would have said what O said. jesse and the boys would be marching on washington. think about it.
W?
boy just think if W would have said what O said. jesse and the boys would be marching on washington. think about it.
-What sources--must be Moveon or Huffington-
We retarted pidgeons see a pattern--
--when O tells us his fav book is Biography of Malcom X (that was pre politics)
--his answer to ties withs terrorist Ayres--I was only 3 when he did it.
--answer-to radical rev/uncle/mentor--depends which time--pre radical exposure or post.
--pre poltics job--community organizer/acorn affiliate
--now association with Gate an avid affirmative action endorser-
Then we have the for the 1st time in my life-spouse ''thats not what I meant.
--so us pigeons are more on same tangent with Sowell per actions vs words--
While you Spongie and your base--readily will believe any rhetoric and will---
--at the mention of any hope/change that involves a free ride on the tax payors back.
If it doesn't fit you must acquit.
R
I did not want to get into this thread but after reading somethings and hedgehog you really get to me in some of your post you are a true redneck raciest, not just in this but on med. care statements , chairty groups do not deserve money, people who have lost jobs are bums and lazy you really make me sick with some of your stupid backwards redneck kkk statements, you should just stay in your part of klan land or just move i know not many in Texas are like you, for godsake shut the fuck up sometimes you have something to say about everything, you talk a lot but say nothing, and most of the time it is pure dumbass, backwards ass raciest bullshit, don't know you nor would ever want to know such a person who talks out his ass like you.
Actually B-- Clinton and Gumby have a lot in common--neither earned as much as a New York city trashman in the privite sector--until politics.
on Sowell--I read several articles of his through out the year in Real Clear Politics-Most read section.
This profiling thing is something I can't understand. Who does not profile?
Is handicapping not pure profiling.
Advertising target profiles tey want to reach.
I don't see why all the whining on racial profiling.
If the #'s dictate unpleasant correlations--do something that will change the #'s --if you don't want the name- don't play the game.
Profiling -whatever the nature-is an absolute necessity of life. IMO
Hard for me understand how the liberal elements here can not understand how a person can be statistically prejudice in profiling and not be a racist.
I've said many time here--you wouldn't drop your kids off in the projects to trick or treat--why
--because your profiling
--are you racist -no
--are you statistically prudent-yes
I have to agree with your basic pemiss but you are leaving out, a huge part of the total equation.. It would be fine to be statistically prejudice in profiling and not be abusive of one's power but that is not always the case...
