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Stark Racial Divisions in Reactions to Ferguson Police Shooting

Stark Racial Divisions in Reactions to Ferguson Police Shooting

Blacks and whites have sharply different reactions to the police shooting of an unarmed teen in Ferguson, Mo., and the protests and violence that followed. Blacks are about twice as likely as whites to say that the shooting of Michael Brown ?raises important issues about race that need to be discussed.? Wide racial differences also are evident in opinions about of whether local police went too far in the aftermath of Brown?s death, and in confidence in the investigations into the shooting.

The new national survey by the Pew Research Center, conducted Aug. 14-17 among 1,000 adults, finds that the public overall is divided over whether Brown?s shooting raises important issues about race or whether the issue of race is getting more attention than it deserves: 44% think the case does raise important issues about race that require discussion, while 40% say the issue of race is getting more attention than it deserves.

By about four-to-one (80% to 18%), African Americans say the shooting in Ferguson raises important issues about race that merit discussion. By contrast, whites, by 47% to 37%, say the issue of race is getting more attention than it deserves.

Fully 65% of African Americans say the police have gone too far in responding to the shooting?s aftermath. Whites are divided: 33% say the police have gone too far, 32% say the police response has been about right, while 35% offer no response.

Racial Divide in Confidence in Investigations of Brown ShootingWhites also are nearly three times as likely as blacks to express at least a fair amount of confidence in the investigations into the shooting. About half of whites (52%) say they have a great deal or fair amount of confidence in the investigations, compared with just 18% of blacks. Roughly three-quarters of blacks (76%) have little or no confidence in the investigations, with 45% saying they have no confidence at all.

Reactions to last week?s events in Ferguson divide the public by partisan affiliation and age, as well as by race. Fully 68% of Democrats (including 62% of white Democrats) think the Brown case raises important issues about race that merit discussion. Just 21% of Democrats (including 25% of white Democrats) say questions of race are getting more attention than they deserve. Among Republicans, opinion is almost the reverse ? 61% say the issue of race has gotten too much attention while 22% say the case has raised important racial issues that need to be discussed.

By a wide margin (55% to 34%), adults under 30 think the shooting of the unarmed teen raises important issues about race. Among those 65 and older, opinion is divided: 40% think the incident raises important racial issues while about as many (44%) think the issue of race is getting more attention than it deserves.

Republicans also are more likely than Democrats to view the police response to the Ferguson shooting as appropriate and to express confidence in the investigations into the incident. More Republicans think the police response has been about right (43%) than say it has gone too far (20%); 37% have no opinion. Democrats by 56% to 21% say the police response has gone too far (23% have no opinion). Nearly two-thirds of Republicans (65%) have at least a fair amount of confidence in the investigations into the shooting, compared with 38% of Democrats.

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http://www.people-press.org/2014/08/18/stark-racial-divisions-in-reactions-to-ferguson-police-shooting/
 

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Missouri lt. gov.: We need ?Anglo-American? justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

Missouri lt. gov.: We need ?Anglo-American? justice in Ferguson, not racial protests

Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder (R) on Tuesday called for Gov. Jay Nixon (D) to reinstate the curfew in Ferguson to allow the justice system ? which he said was a product of ?Anglo-American civilization? ? to do its job.

Following Monday night?s clashes with police in the wake of the death of slain teen Michael Brown, Kindler told MSNBC?s Ronan Farrow that Nixon had been wrong to end the curfew in Ferguson.

?I don?t understand an argument for not reinstating it,? he insisted. ?I don?t understand that. I?m not trying to be overtly political. I am saying, the people of Ferguson, the people of the state of Missouri are crying out for leadership.?

Before Farrow ended the interview, he asked the lieutenant governor if he agreed with Ferguson Mayor James Knowles that ?the perspective of all residents? was that there was no ?racial divide? in the city.

Kinder said there was ?no question? that race was playing a role in what was happening in Ferguson.

?We do not do justice in America in the streets though,? he argued. ?We have legal processes that are set in motion, that are designed after centuries of Anglo-American jurisprudence tradition, they?re designed to protect the rights and liberties of everyone involved.?

?That includes the Brown family, for justice for them and for the community. It also includes the officer who has not yet been charged,? he added. ?Our constitutional and our Bill of Rights protections have to be followed here, and we do not do justice in the streets.?

?That?s one of the great advances of Anglo-American civilization, is that that we do not have politicized trials. We let the justice system work it out.?

Watch the video below from MSNBC, broadcast Aug. 19, 2014.

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From what I have read today about the cops orbital socket being broken, Michael Brown got what he deserved, there is no doubt in my mind the cop did the right thing, if he gets prosecuted I will be contributing to his defense fund because he was just doing his job, Michael Brown was high on some sort of drug and just robbed a convenience store that has been proven as a fact, one less teenage asshole off the street, good work cop, you deserve a raise

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cop did everything right, media covering up what really happened, fucking pisses me off...he either shot Brown or he was a dead man

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/2...en-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/

Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

By Hollie McKay
Published August 20, 2014
FoxNews.com
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Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

?The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,? said the insider. ?He was beaten very severely.?

According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said..

?They ignored him and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move," the source said. "They shoved him right back in, that?s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face.

The source claims that there is "solid proof" that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson for the policeman?s firearm, resulting in the gun going off ? although it still remains unclear at this stage who pulled the trigger. Brown started to walk away according to the account, prompting Wilson to draw his gun and order him to freeze. Brown, the source said, raised his hands in the air, and turned around saying, "What, you're going to shoot me?"

At that point, the source told FoxNews.com, the 6 foot, 4 inch, 292-pound Brown charged Wilson, prompting the officer to fire at least six shots at him, including the fatal bullet that penetrated the top of Brown's skull, according to an independent autopsy conducted at the request of Brown's family.

Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket in the fracas, and was left dazed by the initial confrontation, the source said. He is now "traumatized, scared for his life and his family, injured and terrified" that a grand jury, which began hearing evidence on Wednesday, will "make some kind of example out of him," the source said.

The source also said the dashboard and body cameras, which might have recorded crucial evidence, had been ordered by Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson, but had only recently arrived and had not yet been deployed.

St. Louis County police, who have taken over the investigation, did not return requests for comment about possible injuries suffered by Wilson.

Edward Magee, spokesman for St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCullough, said the office will not disclose the nature of the evidence it will reveal to a grand jury.

"We'll present every piece of evidence we have, witness statements, et cetera, to the grand jury, and we do not release any evidence or talk about evidence on the case."

Nabil Khattar, CEO of 7Star Industries ? which specializes in firearms training for law enforcement and special operations personnel ? confirmed that police are typically instructed to use deadly force if in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily injury.

?You may engage a threat with enough force that is reasonably necessary to defend against that danger,? he said.

Wilson is a six-year veteran of the Ferguson police force department, and has no prior disciplinary infringements.

Massive protests have since taken over the St. Louis community, prompting Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon last Thursday to place Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson at the helm of security operations in an effort to calm ongoing tensions. The federal government is also investigating the death, and Attorney General Eric Holder has taken the lead ? calling ?the selective release of sensitive information? in the case ?troubling.?

On Friday, Ferguson police released surveillance video showing Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store just before his death. Jackson came under intense criticism for disclosing the tape and a related police report as he also insisted that the alleged robbery and the encounter with Wilson were unrelated matters. Brown?s family, through their attorney, suggested the tape?s release was a strategic form of ?character assassination.?

However, FoxNews.com?s source insisted that there was absolutely no spin agenda behind the tape?s release and that there were a number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) media requests filed by media outlets seeking it. Tom Jackson is said to have waited on publicly releasing it, and did not want it shown until Brown?s grieving mother first had the chance to see it.

?He defied the FOIAs as long as he could,? noted the insider. ?A powerful, ugly spin has completely ruined public discourse on this whole situation.?

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something is seriously wrong with this


this is just too far over what is right

they handcuff him when he is already dead ?

I think I heard the dude say shoot me , shoot me

but this is too close to the other incident to be caught on tape like that
 

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something is seriously wrong with this


this is just too far over what is right

they handcuff him when he is already dead ?

I think I heard the dude say shoot me , shoot me

but this is too close to the other incident to be caught on tape like that



You can bet there are videos of the Ferguson incident, too. You won't see them though, because they show a cop getting his ass kicked before he shoots someone.
 

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cop did everything right, media covering up what really happened, fucking pisses me off...he either shot Brown or he was a dead man

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/2...en-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/

Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

By Hollie McKay
Published August 20, 2014
FoxNews.com
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Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.

?The Assistant (Police) Chief took him to the hospital, his face all swollen on one side,? said the insider. ?He was beaten very severely.?

According to the well-placed source, Wilson was coming off another case in the neighborhood on Aug. 9 when he ordered Michael Brown and his friend Dorain Johnson to stop walking in the middle of the road because they were obstructing traffic. However, the confrontation quickly escalated into physical violence, the source said..

?They ignored him and the officer started to get out of the car to tell them to move," the source said. "They shoved him right back in, that?s when Michael Brown leans in and starts beating Officer Wilson in the head and the face.

The source claims that there is "solid proof" that there was a struggle between Brown and Wilson for the policeman?s firearm, resulting in the gun going off ? although it still remains unclear at this stage who pulled the trigger. Brown started to walk away according to the account, prompting Wilson to draw his gun and order him to freeze. Brown, the source said, raised his hands in the air, and turned around saying, "What, you're going to shoot me?"

At that point, the source told FoxNews.com, the 6 foot, 4 inch, 292-pound Brown charged Wilson, prompting the officer to fire at least six shots at him, including the fatal bullet that penetrated the top of Brown's skull, according to an independent autopsy conducted at the request of Brown's family.

Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket in the fracas, and was left dazed by the initial confrontation, the source said. He is now "traumatized, scared for his life and his family, injured and terrified" that a grand jury, which began hearing evidence on Wednesday, will "make some kind of example out of him," the source said.

The source also said the dashboard and body cameras, which might have recorded crucial evidence, had been ordered by Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson, but had only recently arrived and had not yet been deployed.

St. Louis County police, who have taken over the investigation, did not return requests for comment about possible injuries suffered by Wilson.

Edward Magee, spokesman for St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCullough, said the office will not disclose the nature of the evidence it will reveal to a grand jury.

"We'll present every piece of evidence we have, witness statements, et cetera, to the grand jury, and we do not release any evidence or talk about evidence on the case."

Nabil Khattar, CEO of 7Star Industries ? which specializes in firearms training for law enforcement and special operations personnel ? confirmed that police are typically instructed to use deadly force if in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily injury.

?You may engage a threat with enough force that is reasonably necessary to defend against that danger,? he said.

Wilson is a six-year veteran of the Ferguson police force department, and has no prior disciplinary infringements.

Massive protests have since taken over the St. Louis community, prompting Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon last Thursday to place Highway Patrol Capt. Ron Johnson at the helm of security operations in an effort to calm ongoing tensions. The federal government is also investigating the death, and Attorney General Eric Holder has taken the lead ? calling ?the selective release of sensitive information? in the case ?troubling.?

On Friday, Ferguson police released surveillance video showing Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store just before his death. Jackson came under intense criticism for disclosing the tape and a related police report as he also insisted that the alleged robbery and the encounter with Wilson were unrelated matters. Brown?s family, through their attorney, suggested the tape?s release was a strategic form of ?character assassination.?

However, FoxNews.com?s source insisted that there was absolutely no spin agenda behind the tape?s release and that there were a number of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) media requests filed by media outlets seeking it. Tom Jackson is said to have waited on publicly releasing it, and did not want it shown until Brown?s grieving mother first had the chance to see it.

?He defied the FOIAs as long as he could,? noted the insider. ?A powerful, ugly spin has completely ruined public discourse on this whole situation.?

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OK if this is true I have to agree with the officers actions? My question is why is the man's body so far away from the squad car?
 

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something is seriously wrong with this


this is just too far over what is right

they handcuff him when he is already dead ?

I think I heard the dude say shoot me , shoot me

but this is too close to the other incident to be caught on tape like that

Way over the top . The two cops were 20 feet away. He was no threat at that time . Could have shot him in leg or stun gun but to take a LIFE like that was wrong IMHO . Those cops look like young cowboys . :nono:
 

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So if you shoot someone six or seven times because you got punched in the face, you'll be justified in the shooting? Or are you insinuating that cops don't have to obey the same laws as the rest of the population?
 

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So if you shoot someone six or seven times because you got punched in the face, you'll be justified in the shooting? Or are you insinuating that cops don't have to obey the same laws as the rest of the population?

Good questions.
 

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first the kid was 300 lb and 6 foot 4 in , big enought to kill the cop and plus he was high on angel dust:0corn
 

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cop did everything right, media covering up what really happened, fucking pisses me off...he either shot Brown or he was a dead man

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/2...en-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/

Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

By Hollie McKay
Published August 20, 2014
FoxNews.com
Facebook1503 Twitter921

Darren Wilson, the Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of Michael Brown touched off more than a week of demonstrations, suffered severe facial injuries, including an orbital (eye socket) fracture, and was nearly beaten unconscious by Brown moments before firing his gun, a source close to the department's top brass told FoxNews.com.


The officer didn't have a 'fractured eye socket'.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v...ficers-broken-eye-socket-claim-false.cnn.html
 
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