WTF Is Going On In This Country?

[redsfann]

Absolutely disgusting, cowardly act by this fuckstain. Makes me sick to my stomach. I have 3, ages 2-7, I can't even begin to imagine what those families are going through. My thought and prayers to them. Hug your kids and be sure they know just how much you love them.

Mine are 5 and 3 and my daughter asked me why I hugged her like I did and why I was crying when I picked her up from school a few minutes ago. Senseless and I can't begin to imagine what those parents that lost their children today are going through.

 

[fatdaddycool]

this is completely wrong.

if it is a big process to get a weapon there could definitely be chances someone picks up on the persons motives before he finally gets a weapon. also gives him more time to think and possibly say something or slip up to someone who can get through to him.

instead, someone said this guy used guns registered to his mother.

so he could in a matter of seconds go off the deep end, grab some guns and go to his moms school and carry out this attack.

would it eliminate this violence all together? no. but to say making regulations very strict would have no result is nonsense.

how many homicide related deaths in the UK last year? around 50? compared to what, 30 a day in the USA?

UK has strict laws, the USA does not.

so if you say strict laws wont work here, why? and if you are saying they wont work here but they clearly work in other places, what does that say to the quality of people in general?

Yes and the culture of intolerance in the UK is much stronger due to the fact that these kind of acts are not commonplace like they are here. Seriously, is there not enough scientific evidence yet to prove that cultural diversity is predicated upon environment? The fact that his mother had the weapon only strengthens that fact.

 

[spartan]

I can't even fathom to kill my own mother let alone small children wow this is very numbing.
I wonder because his parents were divorced had anything to do with this?

 

[gardenweasel]

great point...

this guy got what he wanted...notoriety....his moment of infamy....i read an opinion that indicated that he peobably wanted the perception of himself portrayed as this big bad dude who needs to be feared and listened to ..and he wanted that perceprtion propigated on every media outlet far and wide....well, he` s getting that....

the media should be full bore portraying this idiot as what he really is....a pathetically sad, lonely little shitheel with a small dick who couldn`t cut it...make him the object of ridcule...humiliation...,not some monster to be feared....

that`s how each of these morons should be portrayed(maybe with the exception of the guy that shot gabby giffords...he was legitimately certifiable).........report that this m.f.`er was found wearing a merkin with a gerbil stuck up his butt....that`s how his grand gesture should be remembered...

we live in such an intensely media driven society,that the pursuit of "attention seeking" has reached absurd levels of insanity...

just last year some nut case in the netherlands blew up around 70 people...

it`s not gonna get any easier...we live in strange times,my brothers..

sorry...propagated...

 

[saint]

You can't stop a killer by making it a nuisance to get a weapon. Also, selling only handguns just means you have the same problem, just use less powder.

I strongly disagree with your first statement. If you amended it to say "you can't stop all killers" I would agree. But I feel strongly that many of these would not happen if access to these weapons weren't so easy.

And to your second statement, yes, that's correct. And so in a scenario like this, it may mean 10 dead vs 30 dead. I'd say that's preferable.

 

[Amethyest]

First of all, any talk of gun control legislation has to start with the discussion of "how is the government going to pay for it".

Let's be realistic and grown up for just a second. Will making it difficult to buy and sell weapons make it any harder for a person that want's one to get one? Has it worked for cocaine yet? Has it worked for illegal immigration yet? We won't even get into the whole crime and punishment part of this discussion because that is an entirely different thing. The fact of the matter is that government regulation without societal enforcement is meaningless and useless.

As long as we have been around we have looked to suppress societies problems. Out of sight, out of mind is how we like it. The gun owner that owns an assault rifle for murder is responsible for his actions, the rest of the responsible gun owners in society should not have to pay the price for his twisted insanity any more than chemists are responsible for the anthrax attack. You want to fix these issues then address the issues. Spend some more money on good teachers and counselors. Put more money into your education system so they can afford real security at all schools. You can't stop a killer by making it a nuisance to get a weapon. Also, selling only handguns just means you have the same problem, just use less powder.

Gun control is no deterrent to crazy.



Hope this helps,
FDC

let's just try, today mabey not......the future :shrug: , never thought the internet was a possibility as well

 

[Amethyest]

Anything acted upon strongly over a period of time can be achieved, at the very least reduced or increased dramatically :0074

 

[fatdaddycool]

I strongly disagree with your first statement. If you amended it to say "you can't stop all killers" I would agree. But I feel strongly that many of these would not happen if access to these weapons weren't so easy.

And to your second statement, yes, that's correct. And so in a scenario like this, it may mean 10 dead vs 30 dead. I'd say that's preferable.

I said you can't stop a killer. If you could, he/she wouldn't be a killer in the first place. Stricter gun control will no more stem the tide of "crazy ass fucktard" killings then it will stem the tide of the out of control drug cartel killings. This kid was going to do what he did and did what he did, regardless of any law we have in place or ever will have in place.

 

[airportis]

I said you can't stop a killer. If you could, he/she wouldn't be a killer in the first place. Stricter gun control will no more stem the tide of "crazy ass fucktard" killings then it will stem the tide of the out of control drug cartel killings. This kid was going to do what he did and did what he did, regardless of any law we have in place or ever will have in place.

pure speculation on your part.

absolutely no evidence of this as of right now and that is nothing more than an opinion.

the opinion of if his mother didnt own guns and they werent easily accessible and this whole thing wouldnt have happened is just as plausible.

 

[Shleprock]

How did he get in the school I have yet to hear that. My kids elementary school is locked and you are monitored by cameras and have to be buzzed in. All I seen is they recently installed a new security system. Did he just walk in? did someone buzz him in?

 

[Handi Capper]

this is completely wrong.

if it is a big process to get a weapon there could definitely be chances someone picks up on the persons motives before he finally gets a weapon. also gives him more time to think and possibly say something or slip up to someone who can get through to him.


so he could in a matter of seconds go off the deep end, grab some guns and go to his moms school and carry out this attack.

reports i heard he had plenty of time to think

drive to hoboken then 80 miles to the school

 

[Jaxx]

pure speculation on your part.

absolutely no evidence of this as of right now and that is nothing more than an opinion.

the opinion of if his mother didnt own guns and they werent easily accessible and this whole thing wouldnt have happened is just as plausible.

Yea and all you have is opinions. Stricter control will do nothing. Yea pure speculation. You would have to ban guns and buy or take the 270 million guns private owners have at the present time which will never happen. My heart cry's for the children and the family's. Alot of evil in this world and yes it is getting worse. What will happen next?

 

[Old School]

What will happen next?

a march on Washington the likes of which has never been seen in this world..




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[spartan]

a march on Washington the likes of which has never been seen in this world..




There were people in front of the white house with signs today about this tragedy and wanting to ban weapons.

 

[Smails]

sickening

 

[fatdaddycool]

pure speculation on your part.

absolutely no evidence of this as of right now and that is nothing more than an opinion.

the opinion of if his mother didnt own guns and they werent easily accessible and this whole thing wouldnt have happened is just as plausible.

I am not speculating on anything. He did it. He did it regardless of the fact that he would be tried and convicted if caught. He killed his own mother for fawks sake?!!? Really, I am the one speculating? So you think he came upon the gun and thought, finally I can go on a murder spree? There were three guns involved and none of them were illegal and two were handguns. He was in the school killing for 20 to 30 minutes and you don't think he could have accomplished the same thing with a few pipe bombs, or a crossbow? You are dreaming if you think any man made tool is to blame for a tragedy of this nature.

Hope this helps,
FDC

 

[airportis]

reports i heard he had plenty of time to think

drive to hoboken then 80 miles to the school

where are you getting hoboken and 80 miles to the school?

the report is he killed his mother at their home in CT then drove to the school and continued the killing.

 

[Amethyest]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/14/us-usa-shooting-connecticut-europe-idUSBRE8BD1F020121214

 

[airportis]

I am not speculating on anything. He did it. He did it regardless of the fact that he would be tried and convicted if caught. He killed his own mother for fawks sake?!!? Really, I am the one speculating? So you think he came upon the gun and thought, finally I can go on a murder spree? There were three guns involved and none of them were illegal and two were handguns. He was in the school killing for 20 to 30 minutes and you don't think he could have accomplished the same thing with a few pipe bombs, or a crossbow? You are dreaming if you think any man made tool is to blame for a tragedy of this nature.

Hope this helps,
FDC

a lot more chance of someone finding out what he is up to if he is building fucking pipe bombs or whatever else you think is comparable.

how can you be so ignorant to the fact that guns are the issue?

did you not read about the guy in china today who went on a stabbing spree in the school? how many people died there? FUCKING ZERO BECAUSE IT WAS A KNIFE AND NOT A GUN.

 

[Amethyest]

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/201...pal-didnt-think-twice-about-helping/?mod=e2tw