Give it a try! I can promise you right now.........You will get the same results!
:facepalm:
Get behind me Satan !
Give it a try! I can promise you right now.........You will get the same results!
:facepalm:
What if Jesus showed up, and he was actually Arab, as you might expect a person of the area he came from to look like, and not the California surfer dude of the 60's we have all come to know and love?
This is almost impossible to answer because it is so hypothetical. For instance, what would you do if Jesus visited you and contradicted a handful of the rules you had been following all this time, basically saying things like "nope, gay marriage is cool"
Would you completely change your viewpoint?
As for my answer, if Jesus, as presented in the bible approached me and said ""I am the way, the truth and the life" I would ask for clarification. However, I need more than a vague 9 word phrase to really understand. So assuming he was willing to engage in a detailed conversation about the human experience and exactly what he expects of us, then I might be on board.
Faith in God is something I could muster, under the right circumstances. It's faith in 2000 year of human history that I have a problem with.
I'm sure he would understand.
I have never prayed to Santa :mj07:
Exactly :0074Who do you pray to on Sunday afternoon when you need that FG kicker to miss a chip shot?![]()
Who do you pray to on Sunday afternoon when you need that FG kicker to miss a chip shot?![]()
Give it a try! I can promise you right now.........You will get the same results!
:facepalm:
Wrong!
But hey. I can not prove it with science so its not so. Its so much easier to not believe.
GL
Have you ever tried praying to something other than a god? Give it a shot! I think you'd be amazed how eerily similar the results are!
One thing I have found very interesting about the Christian viewpoint is how they interpret the results of any given situation. Take for example, a child with a terminal disease. If the child survives it was a miracle. If the child dies, it was God's will. You can't argue with this approach. They have an answer for any outcome.
The realistic approach, in my view, would be that if the child survives you could say that it was the skill of the surgeon or some other explanation other than a mystical one. If the child dies, then, the child dies. Disease can be devastating and we all will die one day.
I don't understand this reliance on mystical divine intervention. No proof or data support these beliefs.
Eddie
One thing I have found very interesting about the Christian viewpoint is how they interpret the results of any given situation. Take for example, a child with a terminal disease. If the child survives it was a miracle. If the child dies, it was God's will. You can't argue with this approach. They have an answer for any outcome.
The realistic approach, in my view, would be that if the child survives you could say that it was the skill of the surgeon or some other explanation other than a mystical one. If the child dies, then, the child dies. Disease can be devastating and we all will die one day.
I don't understand this reliance on mystical divine intervention. No proof or data support these beliefs.
Eddie
One thing I have found very interesting about the Christian viewpoint is how they interpret the results of any given situation. Take for example, a child with a terminal disease. If the child survives it was a miracle. If the child dies, it was God's will. You can't argue with this approach. They have an answer for any outcome. The realistic approach, in my view, would be that if the child survives you could say that it was the skill of the surgeon or some other explanation other than a mystical one. If the child dies, then, the child dies. Disease can be devastating and we all will die one day. I don't understand this reliance on mystical divine intervention. No proof or data support these beliefs. Eddie
Wrong! But hey. I can not prove it with science so its not so. Its so much easier to not believe. GL
How about this? two nitwit parents will not let child have transfusion d/t religion. Child dies! Thankfully now medical teams can go to court and get court orders to care for child to save lives instead of letting "gods will " decide. How's that for science.
Exactly you can't! Living things do not die and arise 3 days later, people can't part a sea, people can't walk on water, can't turn water into wine
Magically.
If it says it happened in the bible it must be true.
I don't think I was trying to be mean? Children have died because of what religious parents have chosen for their child, to me especially being a nurse believe that to be crazy and criminal when a treatment can save a child's life. Thankfully the courts have changed all that. And if someone wants to say they can't prove it because they can't scientifically in a sarcastic tone then I will agree. I will take what I know and have learned in my life over written literature that is as believe able as Rudolph. Look at the lengths of stories told by people over years and years such as Santa and Reindeer delivering toys to to every child, they couldn't even stop with that, they even had to add one reindeer was picked on until the day his nose Glowed to guide through a foggy night. People back in the day were ignorant and would believe anything they were told. When the plague Wiped out half the people they either believed or were told that it was the Gods, they even sacrificed people as an offering to God to stop the sickness, people were just ignorant and followed to the slaughter. So when you weigh common sense with your own life and and what you have learned using science or life experience then what we have been told and force fed as children doesn't make any sense. So I say if you can't prove it then don't tell me it's true. Again I ask, would you believe in this stuff had you not been taught this as a child? What of you were 40 years old hearing about God and religion for the first time?You guys are nicer than that.... I am happy that this thread lasted as long as it did however. I hope the best for you all. You are a great bunch.
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