Obviously, you're not to good in math...
ND's combined opponents record is 58-47 (With the Army win...) If you're going to dispute their schedule at least get the facts straight.
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Obviously, you're not to good in math...
ND's combined opponents record is 58-47 (With the Army win...) If you're going to dispute their schedule at least get the facts straight.
Mich already embarassed ND... OSU would really humiliate ND.... and even 3rd place big ten WIS would stomp all over ND...
ND's defense is pathetic, and they have NO BUSINESS in the National Championship.
ND's defense is pathetic, and they have NO BUSINESS in the National Championship.
obviously you are not good at reading comprehension, I said opponents records you have BEATEN....i forgot to add air force so their opps record would be 47-56(go ahead and add that up)..............I'm still trying to figure out how Notre Dame's schedule is tougher, anyway you slice it up, I won't buy it..........and the fact that you were beaten SU by the said team in your own home by 26 points should be the end of the discussion.......Fat Charlie Weiss has beaten no one but cupcakes
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Lets get one thing clear about the Michigan blowout vs ND.
Michigan started their season playing Vanderbilt and Central Michigan @home before playing ND.
ND started their season playing @Georgia Tech and Penn St.
Huge difference. Tough playing @G-Tech, Penn St. and Michigan 3 straight weeks. VERY TOUGH!
NOBODY seems to give ND credit for their tough schedule. Michigan played @Penn St. and struggled to win 17-10. ND beat Penn St. 41-17 the week after they played @G-Tech.
Start giving ND some credit and maybe, JUST MAYBE Michigan caught ND at the right time. ND had 5 turnovers in that game against Michigan. -4 turnover ratio. I think you would have seen a different ND team if they had played 2 NON BCS teams prior to Michigan game. ND played Michigan in Sept. and now we are in November. Teams change and can rebound. If ND beats USC, they should go to the BCS NC.
Michigan started their season playing Vanderbilt and Central Michigan @home before playing ND.
ND started their season playing @Georgia Tech and Penn St.
Huge difference. Tough playing @G-Tech, Penn St. and Michigan 3 straight weeks. VERY TOUGH!
NOBODY seems to give ND credit for their tough schedule. Michigan played @Penn St. and struggled to win 17-10. ND beat Penn St. 41-17 the week after they played @G-Tech.
Start giving ND some credit and maybe, JUST MAYBE Michigan caught ND at the right time. ND had 5 turnovers in that game against Michigan. -4 turnover ratio. I think you would have seen a different ND team if they had played 2 NON BCS teams prior to Michigan game. ND played Michigan in Sept. and now we are in November. Teams change and can rebound. If ND beats USC, they should go to the BCS NC.
one- vandy is a bcs school
two- Mich did not struggle with PSU it was 17-3, 4 mins left in the 4th quarter, game was never in doubt
three- ND's schedule is not tough, it was PSU's anthony morelli's 2nd start, michigan went to PSU at night in front of 110,000 and controlled the game
4-tell me what is so tough about their schedule?
If Reggie Ball was a DECENT QB, they win that game, but since he is horrendous, ND escaped.....ND struggled against a Mich St team who is a mess and needed a miracle to come back
and any team can rebound agaisnt a stretch of UCLA(struggled), Navy, Stanford, North Carolina and Army.......give me a fawking break....one winning team in that mess of teams.....wheres the rebound?.....Just like you said they had their SHOT and it was at home and they blew it.....
Thanks for the corrections.
After ND plays @USC, they will have a top 10 rated SOS.
Very tough opening 5 game stretch.
@G-Tech
Penn St.
Michigan
@Michigan St.
According to Sagarin, ND has played 4 teams ranked in his top 30. Michigan has played 3. Of the elite teams, only USC has played more teams in the top 30 than ND. Most have played 3 or less, and after USC, ND will have played 5 teams in the top 30.
I agree that is an easy stretch run. Don't forget their BRUTAL opening stretch of the season where Michigan got ND in perfect situation. (except for game not being @UM)
My argument is if ND beats a 1 loss USC team @USC, they have proven themselves worthy of BCS NC bid. Not because ND beat stanford, unc, navy or army. ND is lucky they have USC to end season to redeem themselves and prove to everyone they are legit.
Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, UM dominated both lines of scrimmage all day long. Michigan caused 5 turnovers by making ND one dimensional and sacking/pressuring Quinn repeatedly. Nothing you say about their schedule will change this. Michigan is the superior team, and it was proven ON THE FIELD.
Now ND got blown out because Michigan opened with Vandy and Central Michigan :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
My point was Michigan had easier preparation for ND. Playing Vandy and Central Michigan at home prior to ND is nothing. ND had to play @G-Tech and then follow that up against Penn St.
Quote obvious Michigan was able to look ahead to ND.
NO WAY could ND look ahead to Michigan.
ND played 3 tough opponents 3 straight weeks. Michigan played NOBODY tough prior to ND.
Advantage Michigan (along with ND's 5 turnovers).
I would argue that ND was better prepared since they were game ready for stiffer competition.....and every team you argue for, (USC, ND) you act like they handed the ball off to the opposing team, the TO's are never forced....i find it funny
Isn't Army and Navy, essentially 1-AA schools? Heck, they can't even recruit the guys they want due to size restrictions for the military.... I would consider them similiar to 1-AA schools, as they certainly are not considered "Top" football schools...
It is VERY difficult for a bunch of 18-22 year olds to play consecutive weeks against stiff competition. Playing @G-Tech, Penn St. and Michigan to open your season is brutal. There are no directional schools or non BCS teams. ND did not play Vandy or CMU like Michigan.
As for turnovers, I am not sure all 5 of ND's turnovers were forced by Michigan. Maybe they were. I am sure Michigan D had a lot to do with it. I do know 2 of USC's 4 turnovers against Oregon St. were unforced turnovers. Nothing to do with Oregon St.
1aa schools are programs SEC teams play.
For example, FLORIDA playing Western Carolina this Sat.
Auburn playing Buffalo and Arkansas St.
LSU playing Louisiana-Lafayette.
Georgia playing Western Kentucky
You get the picture!
LOL - If anyone is overrated Texas is it... Please explain to me why Wisconsin would stomp all over ND. How come Wisconsin struggled to beat Penn St.?
"Fat Charlie Weiss" First off it's Weis (Obviously you don't watch football).. How original by calling him fat. G. Tech on the road is a cupcake??? I think that qualifies as a good road win.
FYI
FYI
After this weekend, Wisconsin will be tied for 2nd in the Big 10, uinless MI and Oho State would tie.....
So stop calling them a 3rd place team... it's not true.....
FYI
After this weekend, Wisconsin will be tied for 2nd in the Big 10, uinless MI and Oho State would tie.....
So stop calling them a 3rd place team... it's not true.....
Are MAC schools Div 2?
Navy versus Mac 10-7... No one ever said they're "top" schools... But Army, Navy, and Air Force are better than most MAC schools the B10 so conveniently play.
I don't watch football b/c I spelled Weis with an extra S?.....:142smilie .....ND was #3 in the country, they should of handled Gtech.....oh thats right they were overrated........Gtech is his only big time win in 2 years and its not that great of a win......he gets another shot in 2 weeks, hopefully his hype will add up soon.......
:mj07: Yeah, 18 - 4 in his first two years! Plus, earning ND another 14.5 Million dollars for a BCS bowl games, to go along with three super bowl rings. Man, he sure is overrated... :mj07: Not to mention his first two recruiting classes will be in the top 10... :142smilie
Yeah being ranked #2 in the country and getting slaughtered by 26 in your own house...laughable.....getting crushed in the Fiesta Bowl....struggling to beat a ucla team with a backup qb...needed a miracle to beat a michigan st team thats a mess.......hes only beaten teams he should beat...what is so impressive?? He didnt win 3 superbowl rings at the college level either so dont bring that in the discussion.....please tell me what he has done on the college level that is so impressive? Top 10 in recruiting....its ND they have tradition, Wanstache could have a top 10 recruiting class there......he has a good record against teams he should of beaten, shit, Ty Willingham did that..........:mj07:
Your team is playing it's biggest rival - They're #1 and your #2 and all you can think about is how ND is going to a bowl they don't deserve.
True irony.
The jealousy of Notre Dame always going to a bowl they don't deserve and the hatred of the program because of it is the exact reason that they go to a bowl they don't deserve.
Go Irish!! Beat Army
True irony.
The jealousy of Notre Dame always going to a bowl they don't deserve and the hatred of the program because of it is the exact reason that they go to a bowl they don't deserve.
Go Irish!! Beat Army
Overrated
Overrated
Being a bit of a ND fan it pains me to admit this C, but I must agree. Notre Dame's defense is awful. I don't think they win either the ACC or the Big East should they have been in either conference. Should ND sneak, and I do mean sneak, into the Nat'l Champ game, I believe either OSU or Michigan (again) rolls them.
Overrated
Being a bit of a ND fan it pains me to admit this C, but I must agree. Notre Dame's defense is awful. I don't think they win either the ACC or the Big East should they have been in either conference. Should ND sneak, and I do mean sneak, into the Nat'l Champ game, I believe either OSU or Michigan (again) rolls them.
