Brady had his chance to clear his name but chose not to participate. He is either guilty or could care less about clearing himself.
Long-awaited deflate-gate investigation implicates Pats, Tom Brady
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Brady had his chance to clear his name but chose not to participate. He is either guilty or could care less about clearing himself.
I would hazard to guess that if you asked every player in the NFL to give up their phone for investigation you'd get less than 10% cooperation. I'm sorry but I don't see that as an issue.
Also, if everyone was only concerned about the integrity of the game, then why aren't we suspending Aaron Rodgers? Why aren't you personally calling for his head? What about Rivers? Cam Newton? Bridgewater? Why? They cheated by being at least generally aware that the game balls were being altered. Some actually participated in it.
Maybe, like myself, he thought that he'd be treated fairly and equitably and that the investigation would actually require proof.
"Of course Tom Brady got double the suspension Ray Rice received. Ray Rice only beats his wife, Tom Brady beats EVERYONE!!!" #nobradynobanner
wells:
""Wells said Brady cooperated when interviewed but wasn't forthcoming in providing digital evidence from his cellphone. Wells said he told Yee and Brady that the quarterback would not need to surrender his phone, nor would investigators look at private information contained on it. He also said he told Yee he would allow the agent to find the relevant information and provide a printout, yet Yee declined.
"It might have yielded additional insights into what happened," Wells said.
yee:
?Finally, any information we would have provided, and the Wells investigative team did ask us to go through Tom?s phone on our own and provide them with information if we chose to go that route. But as you might surmise if we would have chosen to go that route, any information we would have given them, they probably would have had skepticism about anyway.?
reporter mike florio:
Regardless of whether the NFL presumed guilt or not, cooperation is mandatory. Failure to cooperate constitutes conduct detrimental to the league. And if Brady were indeed innocent (as Yee reiterated), why not do everything possible to prove it?
Also, it?s misleading for Yee to rely on the lack of subpoena power. The NFL has absolute employment power over all players. Whatever it requests as part of its investigation, the NFL gets. If the NFL doesn?t get it, a separate basis for discipline arises.
The ?dangerous precedent? to which Yee refers already has been set on countless occasions, when players facing discipline traveled to Manhattan to meet with the Commissioner despite the fact that the Commissioner lacks the subpoena power to force them to show up.
Lastly, the idea that Brady didn?t provide the requested information because the NFL ?would have had skepticism anyway? is laughable. It doesn?t matter how the NFL reacts to it; Brady has an absolute duty as a player in the NFL ? and the recipient of millions of dollars per year to be a player in the NFL ? to cooperate. He failed to cooperate. And no amount of flimsy excuses from his agent is going to change that.
The reality remains that Brady opted to defy the league and guarantee additional discipline over providing the requested information. Which invites fair speculation over what exactly he is hiding on that phone.
/hello......
""Wells said Brady cooperated when interviewed but wasn't forthcoming in providing digital evidence from his cellphone. Wells said he told Yee and Brady that the quarterback would not need to surrender his phone, nor would investigators look at private information contained on it. He also said he told Yee he would allow the agent to find the relevant information and provide a printout, yet Yee declined.
"It might have yielded additional insights into what happened," Wells said.
yee:
?Finally, any information we would have provided, and the Wells investigative team did ask us to go through Tom?s phone on our own and provide them with information if we chose to go that route. But as you might surmise if we would have chosen to go that route, any information we would have given them, they probably would have had skepticism about anyway.?
reporter mike florio:
Regardless of whether the NFL presumed guilt or not, cooperation is mandatory. Failure to cooperate constitutes conduct detrimental to the league. And if Brady were indeed innocent (as Yee reiterated), why not do everything possible to prove it?
Also, it?s misleading for Yee to rely on the lack of subpoena power. The NFL has absolute employment power over all players. Whatever it requests as part of its investigation, the NFL gets. If the NFL doesn?t get it, a separate basis for discipline arises.
The ?dangerous precedent? to which Yee refers already has been set on countless occasions, when players facing discipline traveled to Manhattan to meet with the Commissioner despite the fact that the Commissioner lacks the subpoena power to force them to show up.
Lastly, the idea that Brady didn?t provide the requested information because the NFL ?would have had skepticism anyway? is laughable. It doesn?t matter how the NFL reacts to it; Brady has an absolute duty as a player in the NFL ? and the recipient of millions of dollars per year to be a player in the NFL ? to cooperate. He failed to cooperate. And no amount of flimsy excuses from his agent is going to change that.
The reality remains that Brady opted to defy the league and guarantee additional discipline over providing the requested information. Which invites fair speculation over what exactly he is hiding on that phone.
/hello......
Weasie,
That's a news article? That didn't make it factual that he did anything. The article itself states that it opens him up for further "speculation". That's what all of this is. Speculation.
Wells also stated that they Patriots failed to produce McNally for a second interview when he actually interviewed him four times and asked for a fifth. The Patriots offered a phone interview, which the NFL declined. So there's already a disparity there.
The report states that Brady wouldn't have to surrender his phone, yet that is exactly what he was asked to do. He denied that request. None of that rises to the level of guilt that an admission if guilt does, so I'll ask you. Why are you not calling for the same discipline to Rodgers? Rivers?
That's a news article? That didn't make it factual that he did anything. The article itself states that it opens him up for further "speculation". That's what all of this is. Speculation.
Wells also stated that they Patriots failed to produce McNally for a second interview when he actually interviewed him four times and asked for a fifth. The Patriots offered a phone interview, which the NFL declined. So there's already a disparity there.
The report states that Brady wouldn't have to surrender his phone, yet that is exactly what he was asked to do. He denied that request. None of that rises to the level of guilt that an admission if guilt does, so I'll ask you. Why are you not calling for the same discipline to Rodgers? Rivers?
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Plenty ludicrous right fatdaddy, this appeal should be quick n easy.
Pretty good take on it here:
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/201...hy-an-appeal-overturns-tom-bradys-suspension/
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As expected this takes the Wells report to task and reveals it for the joke that it is. Wells is a classic example of how you do an investigation if you want to slant it in anyway, purposeful neglect. Reads much like a DOJ Eric Holder piece of malfeasance!
I'm hopeful that many of the "rush to judge" and lackadaisical will retract their initial findings and thoughts until after an in depth review. :142smilie
I mean this stuff occurs far too often in America.
Shouldn't recent events like Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown, to name a few, give pause to anyone levying a judgement?
http://wellsreportcontext.com/
I'm hopeful that many of the "rush to judge" and lackadaisical will retract their initial findings and thoughts until after an in depth review. :142smilie
I mean this stuff occurs far too often in America.
Shouldn't recent events like Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown, to name a few, give pause to anyone levying a judgement?
http://wellsreportcontext.com/
Well this should shut up all of you Patriot haters. It appears that they guy who calls himself the Deflator does so not because he is messing with the footballs but because he is losing weight! You can't make this stuff up!
So because he is losing weight, he also wants the football to lose weight....
Makes sense to me!!
You guys are something else. Just admit it, he knew about the deflating of footballs and used them. Plain and fucking simple. Will he get off? Maybe, but I don't care but I bet he doesn't do it anymore.
Standing up there in his presser denying that he knows anything about it. Gimme a break. :mj07:
Standing up there in his presser denying that he knows anything about it. Gimme a break. :mj07:
you should have heard the Adam Shine show on maddogsports radio, the old offensive line coach says this wells guy has a hidden agenda and is not a good human being and if you don't give him the answers he wants he discredits you. he overseen the Martin and Incognito bullying scandal and Wells left out many people he interviewed and his only answer was going to be that Incognito was the bulky ignoring testimony by the offensive linemen, quarterback, coaches and mike Wallace. the o line coach said the only conclusion wells could have made was that Martin had a mental disorder backed up by the coaches and team but he had an NFL agenda to prove bullying.
I'm sure he did, big deal, I will then call Rodgers a fuxking cheat too for using over inflated footballs. the NFL is mostly at fault for allowing teams to fuck with the ball in first place.
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Sergeant Schultz(hogans heroes) was innocent too, LOL, innocent until proven guilty. :0008
Why don't you just admit it. It's certainly more probable than not, judging from the texts presented in order, that a ball measured 16 psi. Brady complained to equipment manager and said it was too full. That initial conversation more than likely was the beginning of a dialogue between equipment manager and his assistant as to what is too much air in the ball. The equipment manager probably checked back with Brady and asked if the balls were better. At no point do I find a single shred of evidence, neither direct nor circumstantial, that would convince me to say he's guilty.
You choose to overlook the lack of evidence because you want to believe he's guilty. The fact that you've never admitted to Ray Lewis' or Terrell Suggs' guilt and deserving of punishment when there is a glut of evidence far more incriminating against them than Brady shows that.
