Madjacks Stiff List....

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Up to $5870 bucks in "stiff money"......maybe kegray should call Kimbo to collect:shrug:

And Raymond may be worse then packer4life, at least packers doesn't posts "taunts" on the forum.


Man oh man....is that ever low. It is one thing to rip off a company, but quite another to rip off a person who does you a favour. Now that is really low:nono:
 

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Updated list....

packers4life....$1800
the boys........$20
carters cubs....$20
el jb...............$20
beach boy......$20
eagle green....$20
jujigatime.......$20
cmamoulelis....$20
agent............$880
worm............$500
wormdog.......$50
RAYMOND........$2500

Anybody else ?

Please correct this if it is wrong.

above corrected. :0008
 

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What's amazing is that ray betrayed the trust of somebody who thought he was ray's friend.

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:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: I am still in shock over this, Dice

while it sucks for those who have been stiffed, (lost a good friend over this years ago who welched on a decent amount)....unfortunately i found this thread entertaining...good ol madjacks
 

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Raymond is a racist, low-life, sackless, classless, illiterate piece of dog shit. His taunting posts are worse imo than the theft of $2,500. He is a scam artist and perennial loser in each sport. I am not sure why he is not banned, but I honestly wish ill on him.
 

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Raymond is a racist, low-life, sackless, classless, illiterate piece of dog shit. His taunting posts are worse imo than the theft of $2,500. He is a scam artist and perennial loser in each sport. I am not sure why he is not banned, but I honestly wish ill on him.

Dont sugar coat it
 

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Raymond is a racist, low-life, sackless, classless, illiterate piece of dog shit. His taunting posts are worse imo than the theft of $2,500. He is a scam artist and perennial loser in each sport. I am not sure why he is not banned, but I honestly wish ill on him.

We also learned that another loser on this list is a anti-semite.
 

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[Main Entry: 1stiff
Pronunciation: \ˈstif\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English stif, from Old English stīf; akin to Middle Dutch stijf stiff, Latin stipare to press together, Greek steibein to tread on
Date: before 12th century
1 a : not easily bent : rigid <a stiff collar> b : lacking in suppleness or flexibility <stiff muscles> c : impeded in movement ?used of a mechanism <a truck's stiff suspension> d : drunk 1a
2 a : firm, resolute b : stubborn, unyielding c : proud d (1) : marked by reserve or decorum (2) : lacking in ease or grace : stilted
3 : hard fought : pugnacious, sharp <drove a stiff bargain> <stiff competition>
4 a (1) : exerting great force <a stiff wind> (2) : forceful, vigorous b : potent <a stiff dose> <poured her a stiff drink>
5 : of a dense or glutinous consistency : thick
6 a : harsh, severe <a stiff penalty> b : arduous, rugged <stiff terrain>
7 : not easily heeled over by an external force (as the wind) <a stiff ship>
8 : expensive, steep <paid a stiff price>

? stiff?ish \ˈsti-fish\ adjective

? stiff?ly adverb

? stiff?ness noun

synonyms stiff, rigid, inflexible mean difficult to bend. stiff may apply to any degree of this condition <stretching keeps your muscles from becoming stiff>. rigid applies to something so stiff that it cannot be bent without breaking <a rigid surfboard>. inflexible stresses lack of suppleness or pliability <ski boots with inflexible soles>.

By definition:


Vinnie is NO STIFF!!!!!! :0074
 

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Al, after these posts by RAYMOND, I have no problem with you adding him to the list of MadJack stiffs.

RAYMOND contacted me within a couple of weeks of my going to work with BetFirstClass in December of 2008 to ask me for a credit account. I had met RAYMOND at one of the MadJack Super Bowl parties and have talked to him on the phone dozens of times after that as he would frequently ask me so advice about his concrete business as I am a structural engineer so I genuinely felt like I could trust him to pay if he lost. Basically, I thought we were friends and that he wouldn't fuck me over in the long run.

Within minutes of his account being authorized with $2500 credit, he fired away with two five team parlays for a $1000 each and a third for $500. I'm thinking to myself, "What the fuck?, This guy is taking a big time shot at me." after I just did him a favor. Regardless, after all three lost he avoided my phone calls for weeks before finally responding that he was broke but would pay me when he could.

Eighteen months later I have basically written it off but the money came out of my pocket because at the time RAYMOND placed the wagers, I was only an employee of BetFirstClass and I had to stand good for the stiff job.

That's the story fellas but I am less irritated by being stiffed than I am by watching RAYMOND continue to post wagers here at MadJacks on a daily basis. I consider myself an extremely good "judge" of character but for the record, I could not have been more wrong on this one.

I am kinda shocked.

What a dick move, and to keep posting bets EVERYDAY is a complete dick move.

Sorry to hear this shit Judge and hope Ray acts like a man at some point and you get reimbursed.
 

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Cie Grant...............


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kickserv 100 percent agrees with your "Raymond" assessment.
 

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This last one with ray & the Judge is like a kick in the gut for me....very disappointing.
Welcome to my world, Al.

This situation has affected me emotionally in a way that I have not previously experienced. Thankfully, I am at a place where $2500 will have no effect on my life moving forward but the betrayal aspect of RAYMOND's decision in this matter has had a tremendous effect on me.

For the record, RAYMOND only came forward with his admission of his stiff job after the following email exchange earlier today.

From: Judge
To: Raymond
Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 9:26 am
Subject: AR's Stiff List

Looks like Al is on a mission to expose all MadJack stiffs.

I have no intention of telling him about your account but it would be nice for you to at least respond to my emails when I send them.

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410008

Just sayin'.


From: Raymond
To: Judge
Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 10:506 am
Subject: RE: AR's Stiff List

bussiness is not good at all! i am hurting right now, i will put myself on the stiff list.


Unlike many in my industry, I have not yet had been "hardened" by these types of circumstances which are frankly, a part of our business. I am thankful to be living back in Latin America which is where I spent my childhood and it feels to me like I have finally come home.

My life is good and I hold no ill will towards RAYMOND other than the hurt that I feel from the betrayal of a friend. I remain hopeful that he will make good on the debt soon so that our friendship can resume again.
 
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